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40 Points That Prove That Barack Obama And Mitt Romney Are Essentially The Same Candidate

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posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 05:39 PM
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reply to post by incoserv
 


I think I found a picture of Bamitt Obamney...



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I do think Ron Paul would be a better choice than the above candidate!

edit on 16-8-2012 by Hessling because: ETA




posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 06:02 PM
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Both candidates will end taking away all our rights and freedoms. They both will destroy the middle class and leave us with a few rich and every one else struggling day to day.

The main difference is that Romney will let people starve and Obama will make sure everyone has at least something to eat.

On first thought one would favor Obama since he does look out for the citizen to a small degree. However that could lead to dependence and unwillingness to fight against what is happening. With Romney we would get fed up much faster and thus force change to the system much faster.

And yes I know there are Independent candidates. They will probably get my vote.



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 06:05 PM
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lol

nice try

I know who is going to take money out of my wallet and hand it to his rich friends

and his side kick will take money out of my parents wallets and hand it to his rich friends as a kicker



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by syrinx high priest
lol

nice try

I know who is going to take money out of my wallet and hand it to his rich friends

and his side kick will take money out of my parents wallets and hand it to his rich friends as a kicker


Is that the guy that gave your money to Solyndra, GM, and insurance corporations, or that other guy? ATS wants to know!

/TOA



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 11:42 PM
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And what are those two big differences?

Both Obama and Romney supported the Patriot Act, both of them support the NDAA. Both Obama and Romney supported the bank bail outs of 2008. Both of them supported the strikes in Libya.


Well, if you're expecting me to say Romney is going to be better on something, you'll have to ask the Romney people. They may have an example, I don't. I don't expect Romney to be much more than the routine scumbag politician who answers to the same source Obama does.

The difference? Romney loves money. Obama hates it. Right now and for the future as far as we'll be alive to see it, the United States economy operates on money, not the crusade to do away with it.

So.... To Recap, we're on the highway to hell for economic collapse. Obama is 100% certain chance WE NEVER SEE 2016 as a functional nation as we've always known it. Romney is 90% certain we don't make it....but that 10%, in my opinion, makes the difference.

Our nation is financially imploding and by the time it's publicly obvious, it'll be far beyond slowing it down, let alone stopping anything. Anything that *MIGHT* extend to the next election is better than 0 chance,



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 12:30 AM
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Both candidates are crony capitalists that support bankers, big corps, and anyone else that isn't the middle class or poor.



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 03:56 AM
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One difference might be the way they view unemployment and small business.

Obama seems to be in favor of keeping the current unemployment levels and keeping as many people as possible dependent on government assistance, and he seems to have a chip on his shoulder about small businesses.

That might be some master agenda of the big international corporations, as some big companies are taking over smaller ones by the day it seems.

Romney might be in favor of making the climate more friendly for small business, as they are the ones who employ the majority of American workers.

Lowering unemployment and creating more jobs would certainly increase tax revenues and coupled with some prudent spending reduction, we may be able to reduce that dreaded national debt which by the way is now at $15.973 trillion soon to hit $16 trillion.

Perhaps Romney has a way to keep the international big shots happy and keep Americans working at the same time.



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 05:06 AM
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Originally posted by burdman30ott6

Originally posted by Uniceft17
Exactly what happened in 2008 in 2004 in 2000 in 1996 an so on and so forth.


Uh, don't get ahead of yourself here. I voted for GWB in 2000 and again in 2004 and have no regrets about that. I got what I was voting for and have few personal complaints.


Then what is the issue with Obama? After all, he has basically continued or expanded on many of the Bush policies.



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 07:50 AM
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I've been saying it for months ... there is VERY LITTLE daylight between Romney and Obama. Neither should be in office. Both are bad for the country. And yet, people are defending the (R) or the (D) ... when in fact they are almost exactly the same on the big issues. :shk:



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 10:53 AM
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So I take it none of the few Romney or Obama supporters here will actually contest what you've posted and help me identify as least 3 fundamental and significant differences between these two candidates as I've been trying to find them for a long time now?

The silence should be considered damning to both side by those pimping one over the other. You're two halves of a whole sharing the same overarching goals regardless of the inconsequential quibbling differences and are led around by the nose every bit as much as you like to claim those on the other side are. Shameful.



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 11:26 AM
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theyre all just puppets anyway were taught in school that we dont even pick our president the electoral college does yet people still think their vote matters



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 01:03 PM
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WOW! First you essentially say, "don't be a sad Sally, there's nothing to see here folks, system is working fine, I think it'd be healthier for you all if you would accept our fate & now kindly, move along folks, move along"

Then you come back & actually say on A CONSPIRACY WEBSITE,.. that you feel warm & gooey inside about having voted for the draft-dodging cheerleader, skull & bonesman - who him and his buddies helped further roll the dice the previous asshat Clinton threw ..& then those before him, propelling us into the $#!%%er that Obamy or Mittens if elected, is now trying to flush ( & you see NO collusion here between both "parties"? REALLY?) ...

& You say you voted for this canker-sore of a politician not once but TWICE and YOU are a mod here!?!

Jeebus Cripes on a crusty cracker man! No wonder the 911 forum is dead here at ATS,... I suppose JFK was killed by one guy too & besides, he got what he deserved cuz he was a pansy liberal elitist scum?

I thought I belonged to a forum where such ideas as those of the many here would be welcomed but you give us THIS?

The ops original point IS VALID as your stance on this issue could hardly be called mainstream HERE. Why don't you become a mod at freerepublic.com? I think you'd sleep better.

Now then, the OP brings to question very important similarities between the (rolling my eyes skyward now) two guys we are supposed to accept as leaders.

Gore Vidal said in 1968, America only has one party, the property party. And if you really feel that those you've voted for have got your back American?.....

Well,..
Can I please give you a reality check from one of the greatest artists of all time & what he had to say about these wealthy c&%$$&@#%*$ that people like you keep voting for?

www.youtube.com...

& this post is spot-on on-topic, If it becomes deleted I will smile bemusedly.



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 01:18 PM
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The only possible way you could have no complaints about what that dufus fascist knucklehead did to this country while in office is if you are dead....or blind...



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 02:03 PM
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Thomas Jefferson warned of the evils of a two party system. He also said the greatest form of patriotism is dissent. Yet we are told if we speak up against this government, we will be put on watch lists, our electronic communication will be monitored, etc.

I'd be glad to join a third party movement. The problem comes when people who start out with good intent then become drunk with power as Ross Perot did. If Ron Paul had any gazingas he's switch to Libertarian and get that party finally off of the ground.

However, until then I am only going to do what I can control - and that's getting a more fiscally responsible team in the White House. That won't happen this November if I don't vote Romney Ryan. It's great to be an idealist, it's also smarter to be a realist.



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 02:13 PM
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This Liberal won't argue with this much. The way to control the people is to control both sides and make each side think the other is the anti-Christ Socialist Nazi from Outer Darkness.



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by Hessling
Like so many other members, and lurkers, it's hard not to get the sense that there really isn't all that much difference between the two candidates Obama and Romney.

Well, I stumbled upon this list of 40 points demonstrating exactly how much the two candidates agree on issues. Not only that but agree on issues that most of us would probably NOT support.


What a depressing choice the American people are being presented with this year. We are at a point in our history where we desperately need a change of direction in the White House, and we are guaranteed that we are not going to get it.


SNIP


The mainstream media makes it sound like Obama and Romney are bitter ideological rivals but that is a giant lie. Yeah, they are slinging lots of mud at each other, but they both play for the same team and the losers are going to be the American people.


Pretty much have to agree with those sentiments.

Definitely agree with this statement:


Republicans are being told that they have “no choice” but to vote for Romney because otherwise they will get another four years of Obama.

This “lesser of two evils” theme comes out every four years. We are told that we “must” vote for a horrible candidate because the other guy is even worse.

Well, millions of Americans are getting sick of this routine. Perhaps that is why it is being projected that as many as 90 millionAmericans of voting age will not vote this year.


Hey, it's not just Republicans. Democrats too "must" vote for their candidate. Or that's what so many tend to believe.

So please take a look at the list and feel free to comment, disagree, clarify, whatever.

40 Points That Prove That Barack Obama And Mitt Romney Are Essentially The Same Candidate

Peace.


edit on 16-8-2012 by Hessling because: Grammar


I know this isn't gonna be a hugely popular position to take, but some of those positions, the ones they share, are actually shared by most of the population.

There's also more than 40 things that separate them as well, hundreds actually. Pretending your choice is meaningless is just an easy way to avoid having to make a choice.

They're not "Hitler vs Jesus" nor are they "Obama vs Obama".



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 04:41 PM
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"I know this isn't gonna be a hugely popular position to take, but some of those positions, the ones they share, are actually shared by most of the population."

Well would you like to assign proof to that claim? Perhaps some sources to back up that statement?

Because as I read down the list of 40, I think I found maybe 3 things from that list that MIGHT be shared by most of the population. A cursory glance at the first 20 would refute your claim if that's all there was.

..."There's also more than 40 things that separate them as well, hundreds actually. Pretending your choice is meaningless is just an easy way to avoid having to make a choice."

Again, please share your sources for your claim. Your last sentence reminds me to quote Albert Einstein,.. "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

Finally,.. "They're not "Hitler vs Jesus" nor are they "Obama vs Obama". "

You're right, it's actually much closer to Hitler VS Goering.



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by Pagedisciple
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"I know this isn't gonna be a hugely popular position to take, but some of those positions, the ones they share, are actually shared by most of the population."

Well would you like to assign proof to that claim? Perhaps some sources to back up that statement?

Because as I read down the list of 40, I think I found maybe 3 things from that list that MIGHT be shared by most of the population. A cursory glance at the first 20 would refute your claim if that's all there was.

..."There's also more than 40 things that separate them as well, hundreds actually. Pretending your choice is meaningless is just an easy way to avoid having to make a choice."

Again, please share your sources for your claim. Your last sentence reminds me to quote Albert Einstein,.. "Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results."

Finally,.. "They're not "Hitler vs Jesus" nor are they "Obama vs Obama". "

You're right, it's actually much closer to Hitler VS Goering.


Your absolutely delusional if you think either candidate for the President of the US is as bad as either Hitlr ot Georing. It's offensive actually.

My source for my claim that there's hundreds of things that separate them? Well Obamacare made thousands of changes, and Romney says he'd repeal it. So there you go. Romney also wants to cut taxes for the rich. The list goes on.

America doesn't deserve a (essentially) two party system, but, it has one. You want REAL change reform the party systems and the media in America. But c'mon, the candidates are CLEARLY different. And neither in anything as bad as Hitler.



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 07:07 PM
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Of course there is no difference between Obama and Romney!
That's why they'll slip-in the beauty queen, Hillary Clinton to help you make the "RIGHT CHOICE".... !!!!

Biden, supposedly has brain tumor.... ???!!!
Probably a lie!



posted on Aug, 17 2012 @ 08:15 PM
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But folks will continue to vote strictly along party lines none the less. Keep doing what you've always done and you'll keep getting what you've always gotten.

Yeah, I think that's a big problem because alot of people including my grandfather he always says, the poor man can't vote republican so basically he's forced to vote democrat everytime. Alot of other people will do the same just vote republican because that's how they was raised or just how they see things. Usually to these people it doesn't matter who is running.






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