Originally posted by MightyPenfriend
I have nothing but respect for any military man, but no matter how you look at things, you were a pawn in a game, serving the interests of a power
that wasn't out to improve humanity.
Negative, you do not understand. The concept of national defense cannot be realized without a little national offense. To have a robust defense one
must have wars in which to participate to hone the skills, train the leaders and to test the newest technology.
You see the small wars in which we engage as "aggression" and "profiteering" for the mighty military industrial complex. In a way you are correct
- certainly these entities stand to gain a great deal; however, to discount the net benefit to the nation for their profiteering (that is what
companies do BTW - we don't fault the fish for swimming) is akin to throwing out the baby with the bathwater. The water is dirty and no one likes
having dirty water around but the baby is our future.
I (and the others in the profession of arms) see them as live fire training for our baby so that we can have competent Generals and competent
Colonel's should for some reason the US mainland itself come under threat. Leaders are born in some certain sense but the tactics and techniques of
modern warfare are a darn cite more complicated than the "get on line load and fire" of our minute man past. It takes a lifetime of professional
schooling interspersed with some live action training (limited warfare or COIN etc.) to make a good leader.
Should we just sit around and hope the new bombs work like they did on the target dummies? Or hope that General Brown does as well with real Soldiers
as he does with the flags on a map? The small military we maintain now will be but the nucleus of the larger force should we face all out threat to
our nation. A Captain will find himself a LTC quickly and given a formation of draftees and newly minted LT's to execute his mission. Thank god at
least he's seen someone get in a firefight before...or we'll get a lot of young men and women killed while he learns.
So perhaps pawn in a game is true maybe in a way but we certainly disagree who the chess master really is. You think it’s the military profiteers.
I think they are just the Kings and Queens, they are still on the board - the real player is national defense.
It is likely we will never agree so let’s not derail this here. National defense is a very complicated thing - people spend their whole careers in
its study and still get things wrong.
I doubt some arm chair generals or in my case Special Forces Major are not going to be able to get a good discussion going. What I do know is that an
Army that never fights is not much of an Army at all.
All hat - no cowboy as they say where I am from...
The Chinese Army is huge but not one of its Generals has been in a shooting war of any scope - they will make mistakes that will cost millions of
lives when they do... Perhaps they are cool with that being there are a billion Chinese. I don't think our Generals have that same view nor do our
public. So while sometimes not understood by the populace we fight little wars so our leaders don't make those mistakes.
Originally posted by MightyPenfriend
You wanted to be a soldier. You wanted the action. You wanted to be the best. Some people are born warriors. I respect that. I understand that.
But basically you are saying that you did stuff because you wanted to. That makes you part of the problem.
Again, "problem" is subjective I'd say being a veteran SF Company Commander and Team Leader I think I solved problems not caused them.
I commanded a small FOB in a province in Afghanistan - we vaccinated the population, fed children, doctors performed surgery on cleft palates, we
built a girls school, a women’s clinic, I personally even helped them with their goat husbandry (increasing live birth rates and milk production)
since I grew up with goats. We trained Soldiers and police forces so they could do for themselves when we leave.
Question - if my operators had not volunteered who would fight for those young women... We in SF fight for those who won't or can't fight for
themselves. The smile on the girl’s faces on their first day of school was an amazing thing to see. I am no hero - I need no thanks nor medals
that smile was enough for me.
Again, while wee may never agree who the chess master is...
I am not a pawn I'd say I was more of a Knight or Rook - not being religious I'll opt out of the Bishop. :wink: