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Police enter Ecuadorian embassy building

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posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 02:22 PM
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Originally posted by AndyMayhew

Originally posted by underduck
Did Assange break a British law?


Yes.

He broke his bail.


I didnt realize that. Thank you.

Do you think that is enough to warrant a forcable entry into a foreign embassy to remove someone?

I should say though that I am certain that Equador isnt doing this out of the goodness of their hearts. I think someone is paying them to help Assange and they are simply taking advantage of the situation. I am also happy they did because I happen to be a fan of his and do not want to see him end up here in the States facing our charges.




posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 03:55 PM
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Only a threat to the National Security would warrant a forcable entry into a foreign embassy.

So in this case it would be completely illegal.



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 03:56 PM
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One small, relatively insignificant catalyst such as this could be the start of world war 3. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 03:59 PM
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This is fantastic news! To me this shows just how desperate the cabal has become. To toss aside any pretense of diplomacy and so-called democracy in order to enforce their will is a measure of the degree to which they have lost controll and are forced to resort to desperate measure.

I bet Julian has a trump card that could pull the plug on the entire rotten mess. Now they are calling his bluff. He will be forced to play his card soon.



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 04:11 PM
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If this embassy is breached it will be the end of us all.

Even this small of a thing will blow up on everyones face


The backlash will be unbelievable...

edit on 7/30/2012 by dreamfox1 because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by underduck

Originally posted by AndyMayhew

Originally posted by underduck
Did Assange break a British law?


Yes.

He broke his bail.


I didnt realize that. Thank you.

Do you think that is enough to warrant a forcable entry into a foreign embassy to remove someone?


Well there's not been any suggestion of forcible entry from Britain. However it has been pointed out that Ecuador has contraved the Vienna Convention (article 14) and that Britain has specific laws which allow us to revoke ambasadorial status of a building.

At the end of the day, a suspected rapist has broken bail and is being harboured in an embassy building. Forget for a moment who that person is and what other things he might have done.

Do we want to set up a precedent?

btw I find the idea someone suggested that Ecuador is being paid by persons unknown unlikely but by no means impossible.
edit on 16-8-2012 by AndyMayhew because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 04:56 PM
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1 Flag many Stars OP thanks for the thread!

I will never be sorry now if a British embassy is attacked as the UK has now decided that this is OK by example! Of course this now means any UK spies or sympathizers who now enters a UK Embassy seeking political asylum in a country say like Russia will no longer be safe as the Russian (only an example) will site this behavior as a reason for their "legal" entrance, snatch and grab! I for one will support their right to do so!

I once saw a spray painted sign that read, "Britain, America's aircraft carrier!". I disagreed with the youth who was still painting. I wish now to apologies to him publicly and hope he is a member here and reads this! He was right - I was wrong!

You English must be proud of David Cameron as he hides Obama's hand up his backside so well! Had the UK been this vigilant when little girls go missing maybe there would not be so many!
edit on 8/16/2012 by IceHappy because: fix spelling mistakes



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 05:03 PM
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Originally posted by AndyMayhew
At the end of the day, a suspected rapist has broken bail and is being harboured in an embassy building. Forget for a moment who that person is and what other things he might have done.


Yes. A man who might or might not have broken a condom on purpose. That's your criminal master-mind.



This is political, and he has been given an political asylum. You might not agree, but I and manny others do.



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 05:22 PM
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He has not been charged.

He has agreed to be interviewed by Swedish Prosecutors.

The English and American twats are posturing as they have been out-manoevred as they seek globalisation without any hiccoughs.



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 05:25 PM
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This came across AP 35 minutes ago.....


Under Ecuador's asylum offer, Assange is not permitted to make political statements or grant interviews of a political nature, restrictions that are standard for anyone granted asylum, said an Ecuadorean Foreign Ministry official, who was not authorized to be quoted by name.

Significantly, Ecuador did not grant political but rather diplomatic asylum to Assange.

"Political asylum would imply that Great Britain is persecuting him or threatens to persecute him," said Robert Sloane, international law professor at Boston University. By granting diplomatic asylum, Ecuador is keeping the door open to political negotiations. Sloane said that the type of asylum does not confer any diplomatic status or special privileges on Assange.



Many Britons have memories of a dramatic scene in 1980 when British special forces soldiers burst into the Iranian Embassy — at Iran's request — to free hostages captured by gunmen who had broken into the building six days earlier.

Hague insisted Britain had no plan to force entry into Ecuador's mission. "There is no threat here to storm an embassy," he told reporters.
Source - AP

I'm guessing the immunity type means he can safely meet with anyone he wants to inside the walls of the Embassy and it will be a violation against Ecuador if they don't leave peacefully afterward. That is how it looks to me..... An outright raid would be an act of war..
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posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 05:32 PM
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This is making me so angry that our cowardly government is acting in such a way.

I can't wait until it happens to us overseas. How the brutish brits will winge when that happens, but there will be no sympathy atall if they can so blatantly persecute one man who does not even come from this country. The whole thing is a big mess. I am disgusted to be British, Britain disgusts me these days. Wish I could claim political asylum some place else. My life is # here, really.

Because I was outspoken they have bullied me terribly. I hate those bastards. I will never even lift a finger to help them again. I will just smile at their future misfortune which believe me will surely happen one day soon.

I don't even feel British anymore. I don't think Britain exists anymore. It is just a dirty bit of land with no future and its ass is totally owned.

(Sorry about the language, just the anger I have about this place)



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by gekko

Originally posted by AndyMayhew
At the end of the day, a suspected rapist has broken bail and is being harboured in an embassy building. Forget for a moment who that person is and what other things he might have done.


Yes. A man who might or might not have broken a condom on purpose. That's your criminal master-mind.



This is political, and he has been given an political asylum. You might not agree, but I and manny others do.


Who are those women who have been such a Judas to him? I think they were a deliberate plant and a honey trap. The press in Britain used to do this all the time to people. That is what I think happened.

If any harm comes to that man I am leaving this country. I can't take it here anymore. It is turning into an authoritarian pig sty and is no different to the Nazis atall. It really is no f*****G different!
edit on 16-8-2012 by Revolution9 because: spelling



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 05:56 PM
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Another point is that fatcat international lawyer friends of Conman the English Prime Minister will be paid millions of pounds of English taxpayer`s money in a recession for this case. Drinks all around at the Bullingdon Club, Conman,

And this waste of English taxpayer`s money is on top of the narcissist`s Olympic bill for we the English taxpayer`s.

I can see how Hitler used voter resentment to get the Nazi party started.

Beware Conman.



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 06:17 PM
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Originally posted by zarp3333
reply to post by gekko
 


This is fantastic news! To me this shows just how desperate the cabal has become. To toss aside any pretense of diplomacy and so-called democracy in order to enforce their will is a measure of the degree to which they have lost controll and are forced to resort to desperate measure.

I bet Julian has a trump card that could pull the plug on the entire rotten mess. Now they are calling his bluff. He will be forced to play his card soon.


No! No! No! No!

Assange is a plant/tool/actor who works for the cabal. His (and wikileaks) stance
on 9/11 says it all really, but there is much more incriminating evidence available
exposing the counter intelligence nature of this manufactured entity/endeavour.
.
You/We are being played. This is all scripted, with a definite end in mind.
All these players are in cahoots.
Anything big that makes it onto main stream news is a distraction/ruse, with
a twisted agenda lying just beneath the surface.

Come to think of it, It is possible Assange (being so openly harassed and wronged)
will be the one to finally divulge the shocking 9/11 inside-job 'truth'* to the
general public, sending the U.S. spiralling into revolution, and combined with
the planned collapse of the dollar, utter destruction - as is the cabals (Romes) plan.

* inside-job 'truth' in the sense that 9/11 really was a fakery extravaganza (including
fake terrorists, plane crashes and victims) which required inside co-operation. All the
(obvious) 'incriminating evidence' (of 9/11 and many other events (e.g. JFK 'death')) was
deliberately put in place in readiness for this moment.
2012 is 11 years after 9/11-the beginning of the endgame and of the process of
the collapse of the dollar, and ultimately the U.S.. The endgame culminates this year
(sometime after October 24th).



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 06:26 PM
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Safe passage is what he wants, where he goes is his own business. I doubt he would go to to the north, as they would turn send him to the USA. He may have already escaped via the service tunnels. This is now a man without a country, fighting for the truth, and to survive. Very much like a scripted movie. He might insight copycats. He might incite a safe passage flash mob riot.



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 06:37 PM
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While it would be a travesty for Mr. Assange to fall victim to this scheme to place him within reach of the US, I would also welcome the chaos that would follow. The schism created by the UK's embassy busting would be compounded by the spectacle that would be his extradition to and trial in the US. Wherever the trial was held could become a massive rallying ground for dissenters and if they really did give him the death penalty, he could be made into a martyr unlike any seen recently. Who even knows if he really does have a dead-man's hand of information to release. Of course, he might also just disappear shortly after reaching Sweden with not a word to the world about where he went or who took him.

To those still arguing over whether the UK is justified in forcefully removing him from the embassy, it is fairly clear that other methods could and should be used. I see no reason why he can't be questioned by Swedish authorities, or even stand trial, all the while being safeguarded by a country that promises to facilitate the Swedish justice system while preventing political persecution. If he is found guilty of this "rape", would it even matter whether his sentence is carried out in a Swedish prison or in a prison somewhere else out of the reach of extradition? A country should be happy that they would ensure the imprisonment of a criminal without even having to pay for it. The only reason why such a scenario could not be used is if it were desired that he be made vulnerable to extradition to the US. To use any method other than a questioning, trial and sentencing in absentia shows logically that political intentions are in play.



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 06:59 PM
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It;s not a rape charge, it is a "didn't have sex without a condom" charge. The law is stupid, I'd run too before facing extradition to the US, only to be tortured, like Manning was. You would too, I don't care what you say.



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 07:01 PM
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Originally posted by earthdude
reply to post by OutonaLimb
 

Safe passage is what he wants, where he goes is his own business. I doubt he would go to to the north, as they would turn send him to the USA. He may have already escaped via the service tunnels. This is now a man without a country, fighting for the truth, and to survive. Very much like a scripted movie. He might insight copycats. He might incite a safe passage flash mob riot.


Gotcha. Our Hero isn't done yet. (Although he should, according to all known
(cut-throat) laws of international high stakes politics and espionnage have been done
(over and over again) years ago).
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posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 07:05 PM
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Greetings;

This is not meant to sound condescending in the least, but it seems that this thread has lost sight of the larger picture.

There is more than adequate evidence to demonstrate that Obama harbors an extreme, socialist ideology. Now let's take a look at the other, key players in the Assange saga:

Bradly Manning:



RT also interviewed Jane Hamscher of the liberal blog Firedoglake. Hamswher, while taking Manning’s side in the case, has nevertheless noted in the past that explosive information indicates that Manning was in contact with “politically tied” people, including high-level Obama Administration and Pentagon officials, while he was stealing and releasing classified information. The “only agency i cant get information out of at the highest levels is the FBI… i’ve never needed a source there,” says Manning in the incriminating chat logs released by a former associate. Was Manning a pawn of high-level officials in the Obama White House? Who protected him? And why? Since Holder is a partisan political appointee and cannot be counted on to pursue these leads, and Manning’s military trial will focus more narrowly on the Army soldier’s own personal responsibility in the leaks, it is up to the Congress to get to the bottom of the wider scandal.


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Another tidbit about Manning:



The law states that the organization must not be operated for the benefit of private interests. Right now, Bradley Manning is the beginning. Which organizations support Manning? Codepink – Supports Hamas. Associated with Bill Ayers, Bernardine Dohrn Noam Chomsky – Communist Michael Moore – Loves Socialism and Cuban dictatorship MDS & SDS Organizations – Receives funding from Tides Foundation The Answer Coalition - Receives funding from Tides Foundation Veterans for Peace - Receives funding from Tides Foundation The Tides Foundation – Receives funding from George Soros through OSI (Open Society Institute) The founder of SDS runs OSI for George Soros


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How does Manning tie to Assange?




The George Soros-funded Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) is concerned about press reports that the U.S. Government has secretly indicted Julian Assange for espionage. It refers to “Leaks published today from Stratfor, a private intelligence corporation, indicate the United States Department of Justice has issued a secret, sealed indictment against Julian Assange, the founder of Wikileaks.” It then issued the following statement: “A sealed indictment against Julian Assange would underscore the very thing Wikileaks has been fighting against: abuses the government commits in an environment of secrecy and expansive, reflexive calls for “national security.” From the shocking, inhumane treatment of Bradley Manning, to secret grand jury proceedings, to Stratfor’s apparent knowledge of the existence of a sealed indictment before either Mr. Assange or the American public had such knowledge, the government’s conduct in this case reveals why more transparency, not more secrecy, is essential. This would also mark perhaps the first time a journalist has been prosecuted for allegedly receiving and publishing “classified” documents. Indicting Julian Assange would represent a dramatic assault on the First Amendment, journalists, and the public’s right to know. “Rather than promoting transparency as promised, the Obama administration has aggressively pursued whistleblowers and dissenters, launching Espionage Act prosecutions twice as many times as all previous administrations in the last century combined. Attorney General Eric Holder should rethink this dangerous course. Instead of pursuing Julian Assange, Mr. Holder should investigate the serious crimes and abuse of government authority exposed by Wikileaks.” Source: The “Support Julian Assange” website


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Note above that the Soros-funded CCR is the organization being quoted on the "Support Julian Assange" website.

So, put it all together, folks... Is it infighting between extreme socialists, or wag-the-dog? Either way, it has absolutely nothing to do with exposing corruption in government, the status of embassies, or the like.

If I were writing a novel on this topic, it would include Soros setting up Wikileaks to gather dirt on his global adversaries at very little cost, Obama prompting Manning to do the leak to Soros' site (for which Assange is the poster child), after which Manning would go through a "trial" (read whisked away to a foreign country to live out the next few decades), while Wikileaks is destroyed and poster boy goes down in flames. Apparent checkmate against Soros. However, the novel would hint at the very end that Soros and Obama...



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 07:20 PM
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Its a political witch hunt. The rape charge is over a split condom.. Sweden sent officals to question a murderer in Germany. They are not playing this fair. Once detained and sent to Sweden. He will be sent to the US. Sweden has a very strong bilderberg government. They are in the same club as the US.





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