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Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by Iamschist
No, I am not. How am I proposing that at all?
If anything, that is what you guys are doing! Allowing one man to avoid charges against him by skipping to an embassy? Can everyone accused of rape or any other crime do that now? Seems an easy way to get a nice new life in the sun....
Originally posted by stumason
Nice fluff, [...]
Originally posted by stumason
Originally posted by FFS4000
This is so wrong on so many levels, if we go in we are technically invading another country.
No, it isn't at all. The Embassy remains British territory at all times.
And you can bang on about being ashamed to be British all you want, but we're simply just following the law regarding his arrest. The Swedes issued the arrest warrant for an offence committed in their country, we are simply responding to said request. If we didn't, it throws the whole extradition system in Europe into doubt. I know it is fashionable to assume Assange is innocent, but if he was then surely it should be a simple case of proving it. He could never be deported from Sweden to the US anyway, as the European Convention on Human Rights would prevent it, as he would be facing a possible death sentence or unfair trial.
As it stands, he has done a runner while on bail and not only abandoned those who supported him while fighting extradition, but also brought the Embassy itself into disrepute. The international convention dictating such things as Embassies is quite clear, Diplomats must respect the host countries law. They may be immune from prosecution, but that doesn't mean they can break the law, which is what they are doing by assisting an offender. As a result, they can all be declared PNG and the embassy have it's privileges removed.
Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by Iamschist
Oh, c'mon, he isn't friggin Jesus!
If he had anything big and amazing to say, surely he would have done it by now. He hasn't exactly got much left to lose. His one coup de grace was getting those cables and that wasn't even him, but that young sap in the US, who did all the leg work.
WikiLeaks Press @wlpress 7 min
Mirror of frmr British Ambassador Craig Murray's (@CraigMurrayorg) tip that UK has bent to US pressure. #Assange pastie.org...
2 min
WikiLeaks @wikileaks
Former UK Ambassador Craig Murry: confirmation that the UK plans to storm embassy illegally to seize Assange www.craigmurray.org.uk... …
Taken from www.craigmurray.org.uk... which is currently down.
America’s Vassal Acts Decisively and Illegally
by craig on August 16, 2012 11:30 am in Uncategorized
I returned to the UK today to be astonished by private confirmation from within the FCO that the UK government has indeed decided – after immense pressure from the Obama administration – to enter the Ecuadorean Embassy and seize Julian Assange.
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Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by gekko
Exactly how many Embassies have been "stormed" today?
Don't forget, that building is not the Embassy. They occupy an apartment within it.
Originally posted by gekko
Originally posted by stumason
Nice fluff, [...]
Nice ad hominem...
I'm not addressing Assanage allegedly braking Swedish law. I'm addressing Great Britain contemplating braking international law. I believe I can claim GB is braking the law without claiming anything about Assanage.
If Britain chooses to brake in to an embassy, it will open a dangerous precedent that might backfire on others, seeking refuge from dictatorships, in our own embassies around the world.
Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by magma
I am not forming my opinion on nationality or even over his Wikileaks endeavours. I am simply viewing this as one man facing a rape charge trying to do a runner. Whether he was British, Australian or even a Troglodyte has no bearing. You seem to be basing your opinion on emotion, not fact.
You see him as a modern Robin Hood figure, basically saying "it doesn't matter if he is accused of rape, let us have our Hero.... "
Really?
Originally posted by gekko
reply to post by stumason
So how come everyone has been respecting international laws, or agreements if you will, up until now? [...]
Originally posted by stumason
reply to post by gekko
And why is it I must answer yours?