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Originally posted by moniker
Originally posted by jhn7537
reply to post by moniker
If the United States have no plans to extradite him then why is he scared? I feel like this we're talking in circles right now... It was stated that he wouldnt go to sweden because he was scared of being extradited to USA, but then you said USA stated they dont care, so which is it? If he did no crime, if the United States arent interested in him then why hide from them?
Perhaps because US political officials have publicly, on TV, stated (actually, screamed) that they want to see him dead, killed.
I don't know about you, but if it was me, I would be very, very concerned.
Originally posted by AndyMayhew
I guess we'll never know hoe many people this sociopathic wannabe God has killed.
Originally posted by AndyMayhew
Originally posted by illuminnaughty
In a normal world, full of upright decent honest humans. Julian would be lauded to the heavens for his actions. .
That's why even Amnesty International oppose what he has done.
Originally posted by drbatstein
Assange is well known to be working for the House of Rothschild, this is just a stage show
Originally posted by HIWATT
reply to post by Wrabbit2000
It's no secret that "sovereignty" is a dated concept ripe for the dung pile, according to the big players in this game.
One question is, are those big players ready to light up that part of the board?
Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by Jargonaut
Technically, the USG has a valid claim and a valid point. Assange is not only guilty of violating U.S. secrecy laws but still holds material of a National Security nature that would be of imminent threat if released.....OR...so the argument can sure be made.
I have 0 sympathy to the Government's claim, but I certainly will admit they have one. Hmmmm....
In the course of these conversations, our country has sought to obtain strict guarantees from the UK government that Assange would face, without hindrance, an open legal process in Sweden. These safeguards include that after facing his legal responsibilities in Sweden, that he would not be extradited to a third country; that is, ensuring that the Specialty Rule [www.publications.parliament.uk...] is not waived. Unfortunately, despite repeated exchanges of messages, the UK at no time showed signs of wanting to reach a political compromise, and merely repeated the content of legal texts.
Assange’s lawyers invited Swedish authorities to take Assange statements in the premises of the Embassy of Ecuador in London. Ecuador officially conveyed to Swedish authorities its willingness to host this interview without interference or impediment to the legal processes followed in Sweden. This measure is absolutely legally possible. Sweden did not accept.
On the other hand, Ecuador raised the possibility that the Swedish government establish guarantees to not subsequently extradite Assange to the United States. Again, the Swedish government rejected any compromise in this regard.
Finally, Ecuador wrote to the U.S. government to officially reveal its position on Assange’s case. Inquiries related to the following: 1. If there is an ongoing legal process or intent to carry out such processes against Julian Assange and/or the founders of the WikiLeaks organization; 2. Should the above be true, then under what kind of legislation, and how and under what conditions would such persons be subject to under maximum penalties; 3. Whether there is an intention to request the extradition of Julian Assange to the United States.
The U.S. response has been that it cannot provide information about the Assange case, claiming that it is a bilateral matter between Ecuador and the United Kingdom.
Without prejudice to their privileges and immunities, it is the duty of all persons enjoying such privileges and immunities to respect the laws and regulations of the receiving State. They also have a duty not to interfere in the internal affairs of that State.
3. The premises of the mission must not be used in any manner incom
patible with the functions of the mission as laid down in the present Convention
or by other rules of general international law or by any special agreements in
force between the sending and the receiving State.
Originally posted by Xertious
reply to post by moniker
We really don't.
Ecuador are harboring him against the wishes of Great Britain and its legal system. Regardless of what Ecuador wants to do, the UK is still going to extradite him, they know this. So they then makes things more difficult, even tho regardless of actions Ecuador take, nothing has changed, except Ecuador about to lose diplomatic status with the UK.
They're complaining about the vienna convention of diplomatic relations, how if Britain entered it would violate this.
Two things wrong with this. First, we can just revoke their diplomatic status and all we'd have to do is ensure protection for staff their families and their diplomatic documents. Then we could just walk in and take Assange.
Originally posted by Tw0Sides
Originally posted by misfitofscience
So here is an interesting thought to put all others to the test.
If Conspiracies are real, If there was some sort of secret government, if sources were killed by black ops, then I am sure someone causing this sort of malignancy or thorn in the side of so many (J.A) would be one of the first to be snuffed out, would he not be?
But alas he hasnt, which, makes me ponder, were conspiracies created to cover up the weak system we are lead to believe is stronger than they let on to be?
Killing him would make him a type of Martyr.
That's the way it USED to be....by all nature of recent behavior and blatant attacks on human rights and constitutional rights while breaking the law themselves to do it..suggests that they want war with a people who are too scared and lethargic to attack back. They want a war with the people and are begging them to make a move. The martyrs of yesterday are the catalysts for mass enslavement today....it's just a matter of time.
Even when the child molester died, M Jackson, and crack head Whitney , their works enjoyed a huge renewed interest.
Gov don't want this from Wiki-leaks, they want him to quietly go away.