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Why should I go to hell?

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posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 06:54 PM
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reply to post by SisyphusRide
 


Talking about putting words in somebodies mouth.


I'll go one step further and say you're a natural at hypocrisy.


You are clearly misunderstanding what I am saying. I don't live my life by Jesus, I live by what he TAUGHT. See the difference?



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 06:55 PM
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Forgive me for being confused on your stance..
Didn't Jesus himself say the only way to heaven was through
him.. The son of God? This isn't something he taught?



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 06:56 PM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
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So that's the only answer you can give? So me emulating exactly what Jesus taught earns me the prize of eternal suffering and pain?

Is Jesus in hell right now?


The answer is, NO.

Jesus is a pattern for the Children of Israel to follow and if you live your life according to the way Jesus lived, then you will be with him along with his true disciples in Paradise, if God wills.



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 06:56 PM
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I think Jesus meant through his teachings...isn't that what he was all about?



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
You are clearly misunderstanding what I am saying. I don't live my life by Jesus, I live by what he TAUGHT. See the difference?


no I clearly do not... there is no difference.

how can one live by what he taught if they say they don't believe in him?



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 07:00 PM
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When did I ever say I didn't believe Jesus lived? What I don't believe is what the bible tries to make him out to be, on a pedestal, unreachable, better than everyone else.

The biggest hypocrite is usually the one who denies his hypocrisy.


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posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 07:02 PM
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Through what he taught, not literally through him. You can interpret that either way really.



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 07:03 PM
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You don't know how much I love that song, ever since I was like 14!
Such a random yet pleasurable twist of events in this thread!!



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 07:03 PM
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It is not God's will for any man/woman to go to hell. He told Adam and Eve to not eat the fruit. They did not listen and sin entered in because of their decision. God has given His plan of salvation to us. It is up to us to accept or not. Those who do not accept have only theirselves to blame for the results of that decision.

God's plan of salvation is to obey His Gospel through faith and through that, receive His grace. How do we obey the Gospel? By Repenting of our sins (dying to sin), by being baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins (being buried with Christ in baptism), and receiving the gift of the Holy Spirit (being resurrected to a new life in Jesus).

"36Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made that same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ. 37Now when they heard this, they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and to the rest of the apostles, Men and brethren, what shall we do? 38Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost. 39For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call." (Acts 2:36-39 KJV)



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 07:04 PM
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Why should I go to hell then?



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 07:08 PM
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Yet he gave them free will????



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 07:11 PM
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Originally posted by InTheLight
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Yet he gave them free will????


Yes. God wanted people, not puppets.



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 07:12 PM
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So he's condemning us to eternal torture for something he gave us?
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posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 07:14 PM
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No mistakes will ever be forgiven?



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 07:15 PM
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John 14:6
English Standard Version (ESV)
6 Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.


And here I have been under the impression Jesus was not first and foremost sent to teach us to live right but
to die for our sins so we could have relationship with God...
This is what my bible speaks to me, that god desires fellowship with his children and the only way for this to happen
was to cleanse us of our sin, which cannot be done without Jesus Christ. Anyone, please correct me if I'm wrong.



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 07:17 PM
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You're not wrong in your mind, but in my mind you are.



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 07:19 PM
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Then why do they say he died for our sins? I'm confused again.



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 07:19 PM
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life is not just for living my friend... it is a test, a test to judge the worthiness of your essence.

if you don't believe he existed then why do you believe what he teaches is true?



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 07:22 PM
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That's not the point. What Jesus taught is coincidental with how some people choose to live their lives without knowing his teaching to begin with. After all, Jesus thought this way of living all by himself too.
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posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 07:23 PM
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Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by SisyphusRide
 


When did I ever say I didn't believe Jesus lived? What I don't believe is what the bible tries to make him out to be, on a pedestal, unreachable, better than everyone else.


yeah man you must have been exposed to Catholicism?







 
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