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Originally posted by WorkingClassMan
It could also be argued that we saved the indig, wonder how things would of gone if the Dutch, Germ, Japs got here first...
Originally posted by Monger
And people wonder why Australia has a world-wide reputation for being an incredibly racist place. Ladies and gentlemen, exhibit A, this thread. Obviously, you can't paint all Aussies with the same brush, but where theres smoke theres fire.
Does the hostility of your average Australian white trash have anything to do with the hostility of the country they live in? 90 per cent of animals in Australia are actively trying to kill you, and when you live in that environment all your life I wonder if it does something to your brain.
Originally posted by bluemirage5
Working "tourists" are taking Aussie jobs because the Australians don't want those jobs. Just in the mining industry alone, are you aware of how so few Australians are lining up for those jobs? I know because I have contacts on the inside and thats why the mining companies go abroard for the workers! When I had this debate with a few Australians the other night and I told them why they don't want these well paid jobs their answer is this "well, we can't just pack up our families and go to WA"......my answer was "but Kiwis ARE packing up their families and moving countries just to get these jobs!".
Originally posted by Mickierocksman
reply to post by WorkingClassMan
Crap, I have a large monitor and I can't read that. Something has gone amiss
Home for the night and back in the morning to ATS, I may have to copy and paste that into a word document so I can read it.
Will reply tomorow...
Thanks
Mickierocksman
Originally posted by skalla
reply to post by Pedro4077
ah, so you gotta be white and of recent british or northern european descent to be australian then? the "australian" family history of any white aussie is well in it's infancy, you got no more right than anyone else who is prepared to contribute.
and dont australians clog-up bar jobs all over the world?
Originally posted by cartenz
Originally posted by WorkingClassMan
It could also be argued that we saved the indig, wonder how things would of gone if the Dutch, Germ, Japs got here first...
Read some history...
Dutch: Dirk Hartog 1616; William Dampier 1688...
Japanese (or the derogatory "Japs" as you put them) had been coming to the NW coast for centuries before the Europeans settled; one only needs to look at the indigenous population of Broome--where the oriental influence on the local gene pool is apparent. (Ah Chee anyone?)
Typical eastern-seaboard-centric ignorance of national identity.
Originally posted by magma
reply to post by Pedro4077
Not every Australian can be a Lawyer, Doctor or Teacher ect.
Firstly .. Why not?
Second not everyone wants to
Originally posted by titzycronulla
reply to post by Mickierocksman
May I ask what area in Sydney you live in?
Originally posted by cartenz
Originally posted by WorkingClassMan
It could also be argued that we saved the indig, wonder how things would of gone if the Dutch, Germ, Japs got here first...
Read some history...
Dutch: Dirk Hartog 1616; William Dampier 1688...
Japanese (or the derogatory "Japs" as you put them) had been coming to the NW coast for centuries before the Europeans settled; one only needs to look at the indigenous population of Broome--where the oriental influence on the local gene pool is apparent. (Ah Chee anyone?)
Typical eastern-seaboard-centric ignorance of national identity.
Originally posted by skalla
reply to post by Pedro4077
ah, so you gotta be white and of recent british or northern european descent to be australian then?
Originally posted by sirnukeem
CRICKEY MATE!!
Originally posted by WorkingClassMan
Let me to clarify my statement for you I thought it obvious I was perhaps mistaken.
Colonized us instead of the Brits or are you under the impression they didn't do such things.
Do you see the boogie man behind every shadow? Let me to offer some words from a not so great leader.
"Be alert not alarmed"
If however you prefer the boogie man the picture this in whatever accent you want.
"Oh no he didn't" "Oh yes he did"
The Japanese or "Japs" as I type it sometimes as an abbreviation cause at times I make long ass posts & back myself up, resulting in characters running out, have a long history please take your own advise before you end up looking foolish.
Any particular reason you didn't try to make something out of "Germs".
Please though if you have a point by all means bring it but if possible refrain from using "Japs" in derogatory fashion, abbreviations such as Aussies, Lebs, Kiwis, Yanks, Poms you can use in whatever manner u see fit.
If you have some free time perhaps you could enlighten us on Japanese history I would be happy to hear your opinions perhaps we could start with topics such as the rape of Nanking or their special units activities "cough" atrocities. Maybe you would prefer something closer to home say, The Thai Burma railway, the rape of the nurses of Singapore, the bombing of Darwin, or any of the death camps. Try telling the people of SEA to learn their history.
Then if your silly enough you can try to tell us what a magical utopia this place would be for the indig if they had been colonised by the Dutch or Germans. I'm keen to hear how you try to polish them up.
Is the oriental influence Japanese or just oriental?
"Typical eastern-seaboard-centric ignorance of national identity"
What kind of crap statement is that, if that's the level of intelligence you bring to the debate, then sound the bell cause Schools in sucker.
By the way it's not about east or west it's about Natives & migrants, power & money, writers & punks.
I think I know which side your on!
Originally posted by Mickierocksman
Originally posted by cartenz
Originally posted by WorkingClassMan
It could also be argued that we saved the indig, wonder how things would of gone if the Dutch, Germ, Japs got here first...
Read some history...
Dutch: Dirk Hartog 1616; William Dampier 1688...
Japanese (or the derogatory "Japs" as you put them) had been coming to the NW coast for centuries before the Europeans settled; one only needs to look at the indigenous population of Broome--where the oriental influence on the local gene pool is apparent. (Ah Chee anyone?)
Typical eastern-seaboard-centric ignorance of national identity.
You are correct sir, great post.
Mickierocksman
I 'm sorry for you. Please keep in mind that this is a worldwide phenomenon and that the world over the first world countries are seeing their wages being third world scale.
Originally posted by Pedro4077
reply to post by fnpmitchreturns
I 'm sorry for you. Please keep in mind that this is a worldwide phenomenon and that the world over the first world countries are seeing their wages being third world scale.
This is what my post is about "Wages - Becoming Third World Scale". This is not Racism!!!
As a 14yo back in 1984 I was recieving $500 Dollars a week as a "Jackaroo". I would drive trucks, lay cement, put up fencing ect (Jackaroo = Jack of all Trades) We would work from sunrise till sunset 6 days a week. It was common place for 14, 15, 16 year olds to be doing this type of work in "The Outback" 28 years ago.
Flash forward to 2012 and inflation has skyrocketed, but wages for so called "Unskilled Labour" has gone backwards.
I think it's because immgrants from Third World Countries are willing to work for peanuts. Backpackers are willing to work for Peanuts - and Capitalism thrives on Slavery.
This is not a dig at these people, it's a dig at the Greedy Corporations who will "Work the Willing Horse".