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Male poses danger to children on Virgin Flight?

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posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 03:36 AM
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Wow. Moderated. I kinda wish the lipstick comment was still up, I lold.

Uh, on topic. I'm kinda just arguing for the sake of arguing again. I don't think the policy makes much sense, but I don't think it's some anti man agenda. I'm just feeling argumentative and my dog isn't talking to me right now. He's still pissed about the laser pointer.




posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 03:37 AM
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Haha. He says to embrace the policy that says he as a male is deemed a pedophile upon arrival.

So therefore he is agreeing that in fact he is a pedophile.



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 03:42 AM
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Originally posted by acmpnsfal
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Abuse is abuse, wow. Please do not procreate and if you already have I hope your children are being raised by someone with some sense.


Abuse is abuse. What part of that do you not understand?

Wow



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 03:45 AM
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Originally posted by TheCaucasianAmerican
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Haha. He says to embrace the policy that says he as a male is deemed a pedophile upon arrival.

So therefore he is agreeing that in fact he is a pedophile.



If you use my name as a header show decency and please include quoted text

Thanks



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 03:46 AM
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Haven't you heard? Abuse against men is legal and is encouraged now.

We had a meeting about that last week lol.



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 03:48 AM
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The part where apparently you think rape is equal to beating a child.



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 03:49 AM
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ATTENTION

The subject of this thread is "Male poses danger to children on Virgin Flight?"

Please keep all posts and comments directed at the OP topic or to whatever closely related side steps that normal discourse might allow.

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posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 03:51 AM
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edit on 15-8-2012 by TheCaucasianAmerican because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 03:58 AM
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Originally posted by acmpnsfal
reply to post by magma
 

The part where apparently you think rape is equal to beating a child.


I did noy say nor imply that

Your interpretation of abuse is where the problem resides. But you are not alone.

You really should research abuse and all the things that constitute it. You will be very surprised at what you find.


edit on 15-8-2012 by magma because: spell



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 04:02 AM
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Originally posted by TheCaucasianAmerican

Originally posted by magma

Originally posted by TheCaucasianAmerican
reply to post by magma
 


Haha. He says to embrace the policy that says he as a male is deemed a pedophile upon arrival.

So therefore he is agreeing that in fact he is a pedophile.



If you use my name as a header show decency and please include quoted text

Thanks


Ooo im soooo scared. Hahahahaha. I thought u were on my side. Now u made my list...

I replied to what you said. That's why they have the reply to button and not just the quote button.

But I did it JUST for you


On topic... virgin airlines is a joke and I will not fly with them in my future if im being stereotyped as being a pedophile.


edit on 15-8-2012 by TheCaucasianAmerican because: (no reason given)


My mistake sometimes reply to ommits the full pic



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 04:03 AM
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Originally posted by TheCaucasianAmerican

Originally posted by magma

Originally posted by TheCaucasianAmerican
reply to post by magma
 


Haha. He says to embrace the policy that says he as a male is deemed a pedophile upon arrival.

So therefore he is agreeing that in fact he is a pedophile.



If you use my name as a header show decency and please include quoted text

Thanks


Ooo im soooo scared. Hahahahaha. I thought u were on my side. Now u made my list...

I replied to what you said. That's why they have the reply to button and not just the quote button.

But I did it JUST for you


On topic... virgin airlines is a joke and I will not fly with them in my future if im being stereotyped as being a pedophile.


edit on 15-8-2012 by TheCaucasianAmerican because: (no reason given)


My mistake sometimes reply to ommits the full picture

And I have never like virgin airlines because hey have sold their image on sexy hostess

Oh the irony



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 04:04 AM
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well were and how could somebody molest a child on a plane ,there would only be the toilets and i am sure somebody would see a child been forced in to the toilets



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 04:08 AM
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*scratches head* Was that an apology?

If it was then I take back my rude post.



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 04:13 AM
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Originally posted by magma

Originally posted by acmpnsfal
reply to post by magma
 

The part where apparently you think rape is equal to beating a child.


I did noy say nor imply that

Your interpretation of abuse is where the problem resides. But you are not alone.

You really should research abuse and all the things that constitute it. You will be very surprised at what you find.


edit on 15-8-2012 by magma because: spell


Oh wait, no, I am wrong. My example actually makes you look a little better. What you actually implied was that any emotional issues a child may face as a result of a custody battle is as severe as sexual abuse. You said abuse is abuse, thus implying all abuse is equal. What constitutes abuse is irrelevant because im talking about a very specific type of abuse that there is zero grey area for. You are talking about perceived abuse which holds no water unless a child sees a psychologist. So even if the definition of abuse is up for discussion, your end has the problems, not mine.
edit on 15-8-2012 by acmpnsfal because: (no reason given)



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 04:17 AM
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Originally posted by TheCaucasianAmerican
reply to post by magma
 


*scratches head* Was that an apology?

If it was then I take back my rude post.


Yes it was

My mistake



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 04:25 AM
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Mistake accepted.

I deleted the mean post.



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 04:43 AM
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Originally posted by acmpnsfal

Originally posted by magma

Originally posted by acmpnsfal
reply to post by magma
 

The part where apparently you think rape is equal to beating a child.


I did noy say nor imply that

Your interpretation of abuse is where the problem resides. But you are not alone.

You really should research abuse and all the things that constitute it. You will be very surprised at what you find.


edit on 15-8-2012 by magma because: spell


Oh wait, no, I am wrong. My example actually makes you look a little better. What you actually implied was that any emotional issues a child may face as a result of a custody battle is as severe as sexually abusing a child. You said abuse is abuse, thus implying all abuse is equal. What constitutes abuse is irrelevant because im talking about a very specific type of abuse that there is zero grey area for. You are talking about perceived abuse which holds no water unless a child sees a psychologist. So even if the definition of abuse is up for discussion, your end has the problems, not mine.


A child is a child and abuse is abuse.

The child does not know, understand or rationalise trauma

It just is. Severity is determined by the adults.

Whilst the law says molestation is worse than custody trauma,in the childs eyes it may in fact be the same emotional outcome for the child

Of course molestation is a very serious and disgusting invasion, the child may not be able to rationalise it until they realise through adult intervention that it is bad.

So as a father and a person who respects other people, any form of abuse is wrongn regardless of the severity

I trust this Post clears that up and I am sorry for the confusion



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 04:56 AM
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Originally posted by magma
A child is a child and abuse is abuse.

The child does not know, understand or rationalise trauma

It just is. Severity is determined by the adults.

Whilst the law says molestation is worse than custody trauma,in the childs eyes it may in fact be the same emotional outcome for the child

Of course molestation is a very serious and disgusting invasion, the child may not be able to rationalise it until they realise through adult intervention that it is bad.

So as a father and a person who respects other people, any form of abuse is wrongn regardless of the severity

I trust this Post clears that up and I am sorry for the confusion


No sir, not at all. You are only thinking about the repercussions it would have on the child now. People do not magically forget abuse after they grow up, in most cases it severely affects them for the rest of their lives if there is no intervention through counseling. A child witnessing a custody battle and maybe having a parent ripped away from them as a result will experience some trauma. But the long term effects of that memory will be less severe, especially if they are able to reconcile the situation with both parents later in life, than it will be for someone who was sexually abused. That type of violation takes a toll, mentally and emotionally, its really hard for them to form normal healthy relationships later in life. That's with counseling.



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 05:20 AM
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Originally posted by acmpnsfal

Originally posted by magma
A child is a child and abuse is abuse.

The child does not know, understand or rationalise trauma

It just is. Severity is determined by the adults.

Whilst the law says molestation is worse than custody trauma,in the childs eyes it may in fact be the same emotional outcome for the child

Of course molestation is a very serious and disgusting invasion, the child may not be able to rationalise it until they realise through adult intervention that it is bad.

So as a father and a person who respects other people, any form of abuse is wrongn regardless of the severity

I trust this Post clears that up and I am sorry for the confusion


No sir, not at all. You are only thinking about the repercussions it would have on the child now. People do not magically forget abuse after they grow up, in most cases it severely affects them for the rest of their lives if there is no intervention through counseling. A child witnessing a custody battle and maybe having a parent ripped away from them as a result will experience some trauma. But the long term effects of that memory will be less severe, especially if they are able to reconcile the situation with both parents later in life, than it will be for someone who was sexually abused. That type of violation takes a toll, mentally and emotionally, its really hard for them to form normal healthy relationships later in life. That's with counseling.

You can not say that all children experience trauma and recover according to the perceived severity of abuse
One child may lose a much loved toy and that has an effect. This in no way is to negate the severity of molestation
On topic and if men are victimised because of a stereotype minority, then it really needs to be adressed.
In parting, abuse is abuse and no abuse isthe desired outcome.
The guy on the virgin plane was a victim of abuse
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posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 05:39 AM
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Lol, now being sexually abused is akin to losing a toy, wow. You obviously do not understand the things people who are raped go through, its rough even for adults, especially if it happens by someone that earned their trust. On topic, no one was being victimized by this policy. Men were not kicked off of airplanes because they were seated next to a child, just asked to switch seats. That is completely harmless and I feel like any reasonable person would acquiesce. The numbers don't lie, men are more likely to commit sexual and violent crimes across the board. I mean men pay more for auto insurance because the numbers say they are more likely to drive recklessly. Is that discrimination to? Or just looking at the reality of the situation and adjusting things accordingly?



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