It looks like you're using an Ad Blocker.

Please white-list or disable in your ad-blocking tool.

Thank you.


Some features of ATS will be disabled while you continue to use an ad-blocker.


One Food Should Be Free

page: 2
<< 1   >>

log in


posted on Aug, 14 2012 @ 07:12 PM
reply to post by ANOK

I don't want to be assimilated by your American version of the Borg. I like choices.....


posted on Aug, 14 2012 @ 08:47 PM
Free bread??? I like the idea but at this time I dont think its possible you can however get all the free bread you want at churches and food drive places its the one thing they offer you even without proof of income....

posted on Aug, 14 2012 @ 10:02 PM
I'd rather have free Beer for all. Why settle for bread if asking for something impossible

posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 06:47 PM

Originally posted by Destinyone

I don't want to be assimilated by your American version of the Borg. I like choices.....:


Sorry but I fail to understand how worker ownership would take away choices?

What choice do you have now but to work for someone else willing to give you a job?

If the workers owned the means of production you would be more free to make choices that effect your life. You would not be at the mercy of a private owner giving you a 'job'. With worker ownership you are no longer denied the means to produce for your needs. It's the difference between having to rely on someone else to live, or being a free autonomous individual. We used to be free and autonomous before private owners took away the right for us to live freely off the land. We have been subservient to them ever since. You don't realise this because you have never tasted true freedom, you were born into servitude and it's all you know.

Worker ownership is the only way for us to have maximum liberty, and still maintain a modern technological society. It's the only way we can start to deal with poverty and the ridiculous wealth disparity. Otherwise we will continue having wars and people will continue to fall into poverty. Recessions are artificial. The machinery, land etc., needed to produce are still available in a capacity capable of providing all we need, but they are not available for use because the owners are only concerned about personal profit, not peoples needs. If that machinery was owned in common by those who work them they could produce what they need. No more unemployment, no more poverty.

Technological capacity to produce enough to satisfy everyone's needs already exists globally and has done so for many decades. Yet needs continue to remain unmet on a massive scale. Why? Quite simply because scarcity is a functional requirement of capitalism itself.

Artificial scarcity

....Whether today's global overcapacity is seen as cause or effect of the economic crisis, one thing is certain: it isn't easy to make a profit in a world awash with overproduction. Capitalism is born in conditions of scarcity and is unable to function outside of them. So it seems logical that the crisis creates a tendency to restore these conditions artificially. But how does this affect the chances of the global economy to find a way out of its present predicament?....

Artificial Scarcity in a World of Overproduction: An Escape that Isn't

If anything creates a borg like society it is capitalism. Peoples lives are completely shaped by media, and media is shaped by capitalist interests. Your lives are shaped in order to make you more efficient consumers. People really believe they are unique individuals, yet make fun of those that really are. Our modern society is extremely controlled. Since WWII social control has become a science. Pre-WWII society was far different than it is now.

Liberalism was still liberalism, and not socialism. Socialism was still a working class revolutionary movement, that truly threatened TPTB, the NWO, the establishment, the ruling capitalist class. It was not Russia, and other countries, with nationalist corrupt dictatorships who twisted Marxist ideology for their own agenda. The majority of the working class was socialist in one form or another, communist, anarchist etc. The people had a real voice. People actually acted on their beliefs, e.g. Spanish revolution. Hey ho 'whatever' has to go, was not yet the best we can do.

edit on 8/16/2012 by ANOK because: (no reason given)

posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 06:53 PM
Man can not live on bread alone.

Everything should be free. There should be no money.

posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 07:11 PM

Originally posted by EvilSadamClone
There should be no money.

You make the bread, I'll make the beer. We'll trade equal value for equal value. All who share in the production, share in the product.

What is the private owner and money needed for, other than to allow one class of people the right by law to exploit the rest through property monopolies?

new topics

top topics
<< 1   >>

log in