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Originally posted by Endorra
Is that what they got you to believe? My money does not come from rich people. Do you think the CEO of Walmart is as rich as he is because he got his money from rich people? Or is he rich because of all the money he makes off of poor people?
Where is the money coming from again? No rich person ever gave me a job.
You may be talking about your own situation, but aren't many people hired either by rich people or rich corporations? Many aren't, they're paid by the local baker to serve as an assistant and so on. But, even in that case, the baker has enough moEney to pay the employee, more than he needs for his immediate needs. A poor person can't give anyone a job as he has nothing to pay them with.
Perhaps I'm both.
You are either badly confused, or you simply do not get how a budget process works.
As has been pointed out, we're not paying anything off, we're getting deeper in debt. By the way, what failures? The war in Afghanistan which Obama said was the good war, the one we should be fighting? Or are you talking only about housing and sub-prime lending? That will get us back to Clinton.
and for repubs to pretend that we aren't still paying off the failures of the GW admin is either a testament to their ignorance or their dishonesty.
I completely agree and always have.
Corporations or bankers don't give people jobs in order to give them money. They wouldn't be in business long if they did. Whether the guy sells his ability to clean pans or design a web site, that person is selling a service, the same as the business person. . . . when the worker is every bit the entrepreneur as the person who pays that person for their service.
I don't think that's true. See my comments above. He's making a deal with a business, the customer makes a deal with the business, and around it goes.
You act like the worker is bum asking for a hand out, . . .
Everybody thinks government should provide a service. Law and courts, roads, etc.
Rich people expect government to provide them a service.
Sorry, I started to lose you with "people like you," and became completely lost by the end of the sentence. Maybe if you offered some examples?
People like you think working people should pay for the services that corporations receive from government.
That's exactly why I'm here, to get informed. I found Office of Management and Budget figures for the most recent budget. This is what they said:
You really need to get informed.
Would you provide some evidence for your statement? I haven't seen anything yet that supports it.
Most of the fed gov expenditures goes to the military and interest on the debt for money spent on the military.
That makes me think that you're suggesting that the State can take anything from anybody if the State determines that that individual doesn't need it. Not surprisingly, that position frightens me.
I can't imagine any household needing more than one car per adult driver, or needing a gun, or your crazy neighbor's marble collection with 320,000 marbles. The idea that anything we don't need is the State's bothers me on a philosophical basis, even before we get to the problem of incentivization.
Originally posted by poet1b
You act like the worker is bum asking for a hand out, when the worker is every bit the entrepreneur as the person who pays that person for their service.