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posted on Aug, 14 2012 @ 06:01 AM
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Okay, listen up, whiners.

Lots of predictions on here are going to be wrong. You already know that. You know what's more annoying than a prediction that doesn't pan out? Or even more than a couple of months of predictions that don't pan out? The whining about it that always comes afterward.

Every time we pass a large event, like for example the Olympics, we get whiners in numbers equal to or greater than the initiating posts. "I told you nothing would happen!" or "You crazy people are always wasting our time with useless...blah, blah, blah..." or my favourite "You should apologize for being wrong!"

Okay. Back up the self-pity train here, guys. There is NOTHING that you deserve an apology for. NOTHING. Stop asking. Don't just stop asking. Smack down anyone who thinks an apology is in order. Do it. Now. There is nothing worse than a board full of whining jerks trying to be "I'm better than you", and that's exactly where you will push this site if your likes are allowed to continue.

Hands up. Who's here to finally get the upper hand in interpersonal conversations? Who's here to trade potentially important information before it's outlawed? Who wants to be pressed into apologizing so that some guy somewhere can display his smug vanity?

The game is this: speculation. If you're just here to flame or to bitch about how aliens did not invade during the closing ceremonies, or how you haven't been rounded up and sent to the showers yet, then you obviously have no skin in the game. You certainly don't deserve an apology from the people who actually stick their necks out to bring these things -- these possibilities -- to you.

What are you going to do when they're right? Complain that no one told you it would happen on a Thursday?

Here's what I propose. Speculation is good. Great, even. Accolades go to those who stick their heads out. To those who imagine what could come of current events, and of the dangerous people at the core of those current events. To the whiners and the people demanding apologies after they get safely through another day... Nothing but scorn. Your demands for apologies will fall on deaf ears, and be replied to with invitations to take a hike.

This can serve as an example not only of how to conduct yourself on a board of speculative discussion, but in life. There is no change without change. Quit whining and do something useful.




posted on Aug, 14 2012 @ 06:09 AM
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Do you ignore propaganda ?

making propaganda , making people ready for worst case acenario , then let them be happy by a small evil scenario.

Like what happened in 9/11.

The whole world was ready for the end of times in 2000. Then 9/11 happended.

Every body was happy that it was not a big fight. Just two buildings collided and they invaded Afghanistan.

That is how propaganda and false flag works.

They monitor people second by second to see how much ready they are.

They check if they accept propaganda or not.

That is why Olympic ended like that.

+ American govt made too much propaganda.

+ Propaganda is an old strategy.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Propaganda is still out there.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

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posted on Aug, 14 2012 @ 06:19 AM
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There was a 16-year-old girl this year who killed herself after researching prophesied 2012 doomsday disasters.

There's a very REAL consequence to posting this sort of subject-matter online. You just never know who your audience is going to be. These sorts of scenarios can have a very real and irrevocable impact on an impressionable mind. We're all susceptible to the power of suggestion. So no, I don't take these threads lightly given the possible scope of their influence.

Lately, there's a growing element of mania associated with the prediction threads here on ATS. I've learned to stay away. I really have to call into question the motive for posting one failed prediction after another.

Part of me truly wonders if these "prophets" are merely posting because they want to feel exceptional or unique or important more so than for the purpose of actually warning anyone of some future nonissue.

Just one girl's opinion ...

Regards,

FTE
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posted on Aug, 14 2012 @ 06:27 AM
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I do believe this thread is a reaction to one I created.

Fact is, this was not about some other failed prediction, this was about the hysteria surrounding the Olympics.
Seeing signs in things there clearly was not. Some were so convinced that something would happen, linking all the evidence, and supporting proof they could. They were wrong.

Not in a prediction, but in their interpretation of the supposed signs.

Sure there is nothing wrong with speculation, but, that speculation at least must be logical.

I respect your opinion for refusing to apologize, you do have free speech after all. Prediction threads I avoid, because of the craziness contained within them. However, the Olympic Threads, was not predictions. Some honestly believed something would happen, convinced by the utter bs "evidence" dug up by people that wanted to see signs where there was none.


vvv



posted on Aug, 14 2012 @ 06:28 AM
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So loudly "speculating" about bombs while in an airplane or a fire in a packed theatre is ok too?

Words have meaning and stirring a panic, consequences.




posted on Aug, 14 2012 @ 06:29 AM
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Some people do like to look like prophets , without being good.

But , I have noticed that many people are afraid of the propaganda-machine and want to make others aware of the situation.

MHO.



posted on Aug, 14 2012 @ 06:35 AM
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Originally posted by followtheevidence
There was a 16-year-old girl this year who killed herself after researching prophesied 2012 doomsday disasters.

There's a very REAL consequence to posting this sort of subject-matter online. You just never know who your audience is going to be. These sorts of scenarios can have a very real and irrevocable impact on an impressionable mind. We're all susceptible to the power of suggestion. So no, I don't take these threads lightly given the possible scope of their influence.

Lately, there's a growing element of mania associated with the prediction threads here on ATS. I've learned to stay away. I really have to call into question the motive for posting one failed prediction after another.

Part of me truly wonders if these "prophets" are merely posting because they want to feel exceptional or unique or important more so than for the purpose of actually warning anyone of some future nonissue.

Just one girl's opinion ...

Regards,

FTE
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Fair. Thank you for the response.

I'm not aware of the particular case you mentioned, but can also point you to people who have killed others on orders from the Beatles, or who have talked to the neighbour's dog to get marching orders in their serial killing agenda. I'm not saying [girl in question] was a nutbar... Just saying that the research of doomsday prophecies was unlikely to be the only factor in her suicide. Any research at all would show that these prophecies are nearly as old as we are, and the vast majority of the time are not proven out by time.

You don't have to take it lightly... But don't take it personally, and don't expect anyone to say they're sorry for being wrong.



posted on Aug, 14 2012 @ 06:43 AM
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Originally posted by VreemdeVlieendeVoorwep
reply to post by CrikeyMagnet
 


I do believe this thread is a reaction to one I created.

Fact is, this was not about some other failed prediction, this was about the hysteria surrounding the Olympics.
Seeing signs in things there clearly was not. Some were so convinced that something would happen, linking all the evidence, and supporting proof they could. They were wrong.


Not a direct reaction, no... More so a reaction to a growing trend. In the last couple of days, there have been several posts looking for retribution.

I'll freely admit that there was some odd stuff leading to the Olympics that could have been taken one way or the other. I don't think there's any reason not to be cautious when lots of signs point to... Something. Perhaps it's just that we don't fully understand the motivations of those behind the scenes yet. The Olympics deserve a post-mortem, I think... Simply because of the amount of info, disinfo, counterinfo, and topwise strangeness that were involved.



posted on Aug, 14 2012 @ 06:47 AM
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Originally posted by Snoopy1978
So loudly "speculating" about bombs while in an airplane or a fire in a packed theatre is ok too?

Words have meaning and stirring a panic, consequences.



Really? That's nonsense.

Are you a politician? This is actually a political approach to answering that tries to blow your opponent's statement out of proportion in order to make it seem absurd. I'm afraid the two positions do not mesh.



posted on Aug, 14 2012 @ 06:52 AM
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Originally posted by mideast
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Some people do like to look like prophets , without being good.

But , I have noticed that many people are afraid of the propaganda-machine and want to make others aware of the situation.

MHO.


There is no harm in knowing more, and in questioning the things that happen around us... Or the things that look like they're about to happen around us.

Ever noticed how we're actually encouraged to question the world around us... Until we get to a few sacred topics we can't question? I'll not give examples here, because every one of you just thought of an example. (or if you didn't, you should probably get out more.)

Unfortunately, propaganda has become a very refined science. It's hard not to lose people to it.



posted on Aug, 14 2012 @ 07:17 AM
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you guys saved the day eh???
'nothing happened' since the hooplah of the olympics???
well how about these facts:


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U.S. Fatalities in and around Afghanistan Country of Death Fatalities Afghanistan 1916 Bahrain 2 Germany (from wounds in theatre) 28 Indonesia 1 Kuwait 1 Pakistan 15 Qatar 1 Southwest Asia 1 USA (from wounds in theatre) 32 Uzbekistan 1



On July 20, 2012, a mass shooting occurred at a Century movie theater in Aurora, Colorado, during a midnight screening of the film The Dark Knight Rises. A gunman, dressed in tactical clothing, set off tear gas grenades and shot into the audience with multiple firearms, killing 12 people and injuring 58 others. The sole suspect is James Eagan Holmes, who was arrested outside the cinema minutes later.



On August 5, 2012, a mass shooting took place at a Sikh temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin, with a single gunman killing six people and wounding four others.[3][4] The gunman, Wade Michael Page, a known white supremacist, shot eight people at the temple, then shot a responding police officer. After being shot in the stomach by another police officer, Page fatally shot himself in the head.


tis is just a few examples of the 'madness' that has been going on leading up to and during the olympics.
just because it didn't happen in london,tptb still got away with a lot of crap in the meantime!
ever think that they wanted you to suspect the olympics,so they can mess around openly behind our backs!???
there are a 1000 more stories i could post,but i think you get the point.
people are still posting about the olympics,but the other stories i listed have been put on the back burner!
just what they wanted!
ya the olympics was a big false flag..... for the people!!!!

you have saved nothing! you fell for the trap so they could do what they wanted while you were distracted by a big nothing!



posted on Aug, 14 2012 @ 07:41 AM
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Actually, I disagree. I think bogus predictions are far worse, and far more annoying than the people who whine about it later.

Now, that being said...

I'm not going to bash people that simply keep an open mind. The folks that speculate and think something is possible aren't really doing anything wrong.

The ones that I absolutely HATE are the people who are SO DAMN sure of themselves that they not only speak as if what they are saying is FACT, but when someone disagrees with them they pull the whole "Blah blah you're a sheep, your asleep, you don't know anything, you'll see after I get proven right"

I hate these people. If you want to keep an open mind and don't want to shut down an idea that's cool. But do NOT go around acting as if you are somehow some enlightened individual that knows more than everybody else because you read a thread on ATS or watched some YouTube video. I see this crap all the time. "I watched this video that says there will be an earthquake tomorrow, it's happening, all of you doubters are stupid sheep that don't know anything"

Then tomorrow comes, nothing happens, and these instigators slink away to whatever dark corner they came from to reappear at a later date with another bogus prediction that they abuse other people for not believing in.

If you want to keep an open mind that's your right, but you have zero right to attack others because they DON'T believe some ridiculous BS that makes zero sense and could be debunked by a mentally disabled 5 year old.



posted on Aug, 14 2012 @ 08:33 AM
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Did you respond to the right posting? This isn't about saving the day... it's about showing some decorum and respect for those who go out of their way to post these things in the first place. They are taking time out to show you a possible viewpoint on these events, and that's a good thing, because you may not have seen it that way. Forewarned is fore-armed. (And we all dig forearms, right? I also think it would be cool to have four arms, but that's too much digression for right now.)

It is fine to argue with them, and point out flaws in their arguments... but it is unreasonable to expect them to apologize every time they are wrong. Wrong tends to come with the territory when you're dealing with this stuff, but so does the absolute lack of vindication when something that is said out loud does avert disaster.

I would expect that if something was planned for during the Olympics, the sheer amount of attention on the subject would have deterred any plans. "They're onto us, boys. Let's drop this one, and discredit them." It's plausible. At least as plausible as any other theories. Not illogical at all. It's what I'd do if I wanted to manipulate you all to my agenda.



posted on Aug, 14 2012 @ 08:54 AM
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Completely agreed that willful ignorance, and inability to converse intelligently about your own prediction is a bad thing. However (!) I would argue that the ones asking for apologies in these cases are typically doing exactly the same thing. Ideas are meant to be changed. That's why they are not realities. Everyone has a different viewpoint, and discounting one because it does not agree with your own is just... ignorant.

I disagree on the idea that the whining is less annoying. The prediction may have been wrong... but the act of suggesting that it was a possibility was not wrong. Demanding an apology just discourages all speculation. That ends boards like this. Nail in coffin.

I should also mention that just because it seems obvious to you that a mentally deficient 5 year old could debunk something... that doesn't mean it's obvious to everyone else. Differing viewpoints, and all. Perhaps that's an opportunity to explain and enlighten. (Not attack.)
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posted on Aug, 14 2012 @ 09:24 AM
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if the illuminati does control this world,and have for millenium,then i reckon they are an intelligent lot!
do you really think that be that dumb to think along these lines?
they would be able to crush you like a grape if they chose,and wouldn't have to resort to hiding whilst playing their games!
if they wanted to do something,they would --- and they do!
LOOK AT THE MIDDLE EAST RIGHT NOW.
NO AMOUNT OF PROTESTING CAN OR WILL STOP IT.
it will escalate,and as long as its 'over there',and our media only shows us what they want,people will just shrug it off,and comment how horrible it all is.
did we stop wwII ? no WE didn't. big business,death and comprimise did.
same now in the midle east.
OUR big companies want the oil,natural gas, and exotic material as our own,and will stop at nothing to get it.
but they will tell you lies about terrorism and crap like that to scare the hell outta ya so you follow blindly like sheep,withought even questioning what is 'truth'.
the illuminati has been in control for 1000 years,and they still lead us around by the balls!
they control us by letting the masses think there 'free'.
free to buy what they want you to buy,inside of their parameters that is!
live the way the t.v. tells you to,because everyone knows thats how life really is.
are you really free?
can you slip off the grid? even if you could (YOU CAN'T) do you honestly think you could exist living out side of this society? honestly!?
this is how they have won,and the only way we will take our freedom back is if a major catasrophy happens.
(solar storm,asteroid strike etc...) then they will be in the same boat as everyone else.
only then can we be rid of this human experiment we call modern life.
think about it.
end of rant.
peace



posted on Aug, 14 2012 @ 09:57 AM
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I don't think the idea that they've controlled the world for a long time necessarily precludes the possibility that they are not very smart. They could easily be following in the footsteps of some very smart people... or following a policy of "hiding in plain sight". The methods for controlling the perceptions of the masses are not new, but by necessity, the people usually are new.

We all assume they are great in numbers... but what if they're not? Much like any of the anti-government rallies in the middle east that are being used to justify invasion, pictured from the right angles, you can make a hundred people look like a thousand. We're afraid to confront them because there appear to be so many of them... but what if it's just one little guy behind a curtain? That might be embarrassing for the rest of us.



posted on Aug, 14 2012 @ 07:21 PM
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You do make a fair point about action and reaction. The part that annoys me the most is the fact we see so many "this will happen on this date" kind of threads, and when they don't come to pass, the very same people just move onto the latest doom porn going on and forget all about the hysteria they went on and on about only days or weeks before. Frankly that's more annoying than anything, and definetely much worse than the basic "I was wrong ok so let's move on."

People are entitled to their opinions and I would rather be the one informed about something potentially happening than being the one kept in the dark. Someone posted before about the boy who cried wolf, and I think that sums up well where humanity is at these days. I just hope the one that does happen will be the one we can at least be ready for.



posted on Aug, 14 2012 @ 10:04 PM
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interesting perspective!

i remember seeing a video of a high pwer guy in the 1950's(sorry his name escapes me) giving a speech
to govt.people saying something along the lines of
'for the first time in our history is the public so informed as to what is going on in the world.
for the first time in history do the masses have more power than their rulers. what happens if the masses realize this power they have?'
it was a population control speech.
it may even have been sigmund freud's brother.
try to search for this,you may enjoy.



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 01:01 PM
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I'll do exactly that. Then I'll come back here and review, or something. Er... maybe I shouldn't commit to that, in case it's difficult to find. (I am at work, after all, and should probably... you know...)

I see it as a situation much like any internment camp. Inmates outnumber the guards by a lot... but the main reason that there is not a revolt is that people are resigned to the situation, or view it as hopeless.

"We'll never beat them!" Well... not with that attitude.



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 01:22 PM
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Look, if you're man (or woman) enough to post some "Prophecy" or prediction.. and you're full of crap - and it never comes to fruition, be man (or woman) enough to own it and say "sorry, my bad".

OR

Quit posting attention whoring doomsday threads just because you want sycophants to ask you questions like you some how know "secrets".

*shrugs*






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