Originally posted by CookieMonster09
Where do you draw the line? And, I mean this as a serious question. Why not have everyone run around naked, then? Should all TV shows and movies
have nakedness? How about billboards and advertising?
I would have absolutely no problem with that. In many European countries women being topless isn't an unusual sight at all and they have commercials
with nudity in them. Are those countries any worse off than America? Not in the least. I try to live by the golden rule. Do unto others as you'd
have them do unto you. Empathy. Don't criticize others for their sense of fashion, or comfort level of their clothing in hot weather, unless you you
don't mind them coming back and attacking your outdated beliefs. The human body is natural and beautiful. If you are offended by somebody because
they wear less clothing in hot weather, then I really don't know what to tell you. Perhaps you feel that catching heat stroke because somebody
bundles up their body in 100 degree heat would be justified since you saved the potential of a few men seeing somebody's bare arms.
Controlling your children is about teaching them and being a good parent; not hiding women's bare arms or shoulders from the rest of society.
Are you also against men doing yard work or going to the beach without a shirt on? Why should a woman and her breasts be any different? I just don't
understand that line of thinking and it's certainly a double standard (among many) in society today. Maybe you could answer that for me.
My point is that our culture has been degraded to such a point that immodesty is the norm. Back 50 years ago, this would never be culturally
accepted. We have, unfortunately, become an indecent and immoral culture. And, if you have any sense of spirituality at all, you know that this kind
of indecency has negative consequences for society as a whole.
I'd say we've become a free culture. We don't have to conform to another person's religion. We can wear comfortable and fashionable clothing without
people getting bent out of shape about it. The body is natural, why hide it? I'd argue that sexual suppression has much more negative consequences
in society than sexual freedom.
Consider this: The orthodox Jewish and Muslim families in the United States and Europe have a massive birth rate compared to secular society.
Many of these orthodox religious couples have 7-10 kids or more. I think that over the next 100 years, that secular society will be overrun by the
the orthodox religious, if only by birth rate alone. Just my opinion.
That would really be a shame. Many religious people don't always consider population control, they just keep popping out babies like it's a clown car
to spread their religion. An exponential population increase rate is not sustainable. It's a shame some folks care more about ancient myths, than
the future of humanity. Secular society cares about our future, while non secular people think the world is ending and are waiting for the rapture,
so they procreate and waste resources without consequence. The bible condones wastefulness. This teaching is dangerous.
And regardless of birth rates, organized religion is dying. Partially because the beliefs are old and outdated, partially because of science and the
fact that people are much more intelligent today, and also because people don't like to be oppressed anymore and aren't tortured and murdered for not
Also if topless women were the norm, people wouldn't be so uptight about seeing one. The reason men look at a hot woman or like to see nudity is
because it is hidden from society by censorship and uptight people that want their religion to control everyone else's life. If this were never the
case, then see a topless woman, would be like any regular person walking down the street. Most religion dates back around 4-6 thousand years at the
most, while homo sapiens have been on this planet for over 200,000 years. What did we do before clothing was invented? Everybody used to be naked
(or close to it) when we lived in an extremely hot African climate, but then religion began taking over and oppressing and controlling
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