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Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
reply to post by Xtrozero
I paid no federal income taxes for years and years and I made above 50 to 70k at the time...
Get out of here and take your phony-baloney malarkey with you. That is a bald-faced lie.
Even minimum wage jobs pay federal taxes. And no matter what you are ALWAYS paying sales taxes, FICA, state income taxes, property taxes, etc.
Originally posted by dolphinfan
reply to post by BubbaJoe
Over 50% of this country pay no federal taxes. Social security and the other payroll taxes are not taxes, per se, but, rather deposits for both health and retirement insurance. People today due to their longivity take far more out of these systems than they put in.
Excise taxes? You could'nt feed the residents of the housing projects of one major city for a year on the excise taxes paid by the residents. Not close.
Ryan will lay the facts out and folks can make their minds up based on the facts, not spin.
These programs are broke. Grow up and recognize that they need to be blown-up and put back together.
Now tomorrow when you're at work just remember that you're working to help pay for Warren Buffet's social security and Medicare. Why? Because the cowards we have elected over the past 20 years, from both parties who knew these systems were going broke did not even have the stones to means test them, thats why.
Originally posted by camaro68ss
Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
reply to post by Xtrozero
I paid no federal income taxes for years and years and I made above 50 to 70k at the time...
Get out of here and take your phony-baloney malarkey with you. That is a bald-faced lie.
Even minimum wage jobs pay federal taxes. And no matter what you are ALWAYS paying sales taxes, FICA, state income taxes, property taxes, etc.
we went over this before blackmarketeer. Minimum wage has there taxes withheld by there Employer for that work year. They then file their taxes and receive a tax credit larger then what they paid for the whole year. Hence the wording, 49% of tax payers don’t pay taxes. Again 49% “Tax payers” don’t pay taxes.
If at the end of the year you get back more than you paid in taxes, then you didn’t pay taxes. Its not that hard.
And yes, we are talking federal income taxes here.
edit on 14-8-2012 by camaro68ss because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by xuenchen
Sounds like Panic Mode for sure !!
It must be "Anybody But Ryan" would have been better for the Obama Campaign?
Originally posted by acidsweep
Paul Ryan acts/looks/speaks like one of those speakers at an MLM (multi-level marketing/pyramid scheme) presentation. His actions aren't much different either.edit on 13-8-2012 by acidsweep because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by acidsweep
Its 47%, not 49%. Dont add percentages out of the blue. If everone did this we'd be at 100% people not paying taxes in no time (not that im against this, but facts should be kept accurate)