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Originally posted by Thermo Klein
I'm not really sure why American troops are sent through cities in various countries we bomb, but I can't imagine what might go on behind the scenes. A co-worker of mine who re-enlists often "likes knives a little too much" and generally can't wait to get shipped back over. I could imagine him coming into my house
In going from house to house "looking for bad guys" how long does it take? Does just anyone get killed or do you usually have intel and a names list? If a person's name IS on that list is it ransack the house and neighbors til you find him or her?
Would hiding help (or only running)?
Originally posted by murphy22
In this scenario you would have to assume a military is involved. Or a para.
One of the first things a military force worth its salt would do is prohibit all civilain movement. War history shows us you can't have a mass exodus of civilians blocking avenues of aproach and exit. The best thing to do is, like a nother said, "Not be there when it happens."
You can count on being found if it is you they are looking for. You will only recieve "special treatment" if they find you while "hiding". Sounds blunt, but those are the cold hard facts.
Best thing anyone can do is find a property with a long driveway. And "plan" from there. Depending on what you are hiding from..... either way in this scenario, it sounds as if you will be in some sort of combat. You only have to decide what is worth dying or living for.
Originally posted by crazyguy2012
If someone hostile approaches them can you take them out silently without being seen?
Originally posted by murphy22
reply to post by crazyguy2012
In this scenario a soldier would secure his family first. When operating alone and without support you do what you can, when you can. But you don't commit suicide. If and only if, you can insure your family is safe would you carry back the fight. Movies and reality are defferent, I can assure you. And bullets make an eye openning sound in real life.
Originally posted by ExCommando
reply to post by crazyguy2012
This is an assumptive discussion - IMO the chances of the OP's scenario coming true are extremely unlikely.
To be honest - I would not stick together with other people. There is no strength in numbers in either a foreign invasion force or a collapse of society.
If you band together with prearranged people who can strengthen your position, then so be it - a small, highly skilled group of like minded survivalists would be good ... but corralling your neighbours and other members of the public = failure.
Originally posted by ExCommando
reply to post by crazyguy2012
For sake of argument.
A foreign force would only put boots on the ground once they have domination of the air space, and have crippled or destroyed the key strategic and military posts on the ground.
Once this happens, you are talking about untrained civilians attempting to re-take or hold a city against a superior foreign force, with air superiority?
Originally posted by CosmicCitizen
reply to post by crazyguy2012
I have heard anecdotally that many (from surveys) who will not obey orders to fire on americans are being weeded out. Also it is easy to fire on people if they are shooting at your (esp if they fire first). Lastly, the govt knows that they will not have total compliance and surely have a contingent plan to bring in foreign (UN) troops who will do what US troops have done in Iraq and Afghanistan.
edit on 13-8-2012 by CosmicCitizen because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by crazyguy2012
Originally posted by ExCommando
reply to post by crazyguy2012
This is an assumptive discussion - IMO the chances of the OP's scenario coming true are extremely unlikely.
To be honest - I would not stick together with other people. There is no strength in numbers in either a foreign invasion force or a collapse of society.
If you band together with prearranged people who can strengthen your position, then so be it - a small, highly skilled group of like minded survivalists would be good ... but corralling your neighbours and other members of the public = failure.
Then you have not studied history and you will not survive long. You need doctors, dentists... Or do you not care about having all of your teeth? Plus not all of society is not bad. Do you really want to spend the rest of your life having to prepare for two hours to take a hot shower or bath. You will miss turning a nob and viola hot water...
Roughing it can be fun for a while but eventually it will get old... Will you want to sleep with your beautiful wife when she smells like the pig you are raising for food... yuck.... We will have to come together to rebuild things eventually. The sooner we start working on it the better.