reply to post by Thermo Klein
Ok, because I am actually wondering why Thermo started this topic...I'll chime in.
These are just ideas, not actual facts. I can't give you anything but my opinion.
For reasons I can't exactly relay on the 'net.
Thermo devices don't work like what you see on movies.
They work well with stick frame homes, and light walled buildings.
But not concrete/block or main brick buildings.
(2ft thick or more is hard to penetrate)
Usually older buildings are safer.
Newer buildings are built very cheaply and have extremely thin walls.
Steel frame buildings (newer) are not the safest either.
Heat signatures are always found through windows, and drywall.
In cities that are relatively old...
Look for old nuclear fallout shelter signs.
Those old bunkers were built into older buildings with enough concrete to stop any "spying"...
Look for basements and older vaults which may be below ground.
Anything hidden under foundations, or within concrete walls.
Of course block and stone foundations are best.
Now, for smaller structures and homes, look for older buildings here too.
You are keeping an eye out for any homes that would've had a coal cellar.
These walls were thick and usually came with a loading door...easy access.
As far as making a nice, spy-proof shelter...
You better off finding a cave, or digging a root cellar.
Building a "bomb-shelter" is not the cheapest route, but root cellars are.
Plus you only need to have about 2 feet of dirt or concrete/block to block most devices.
Anything underground will suffice as most thermo devices can't penetrate substrate, either.
Lakes and creeks, streams and rivers work too, although weather permitting.
Mostly worry about getting below ground.
Look at where the gov't hides.
That's where you"ll get the best ideas.