reply to post by surrealist
The level of disinformation and ignorance is very strong on ATS regarding the EURO crisis. Especially from the Americans that model the EU as a
loosely copy of the US (they are very distinct, even if some would like an higher level of federalism, the EU is not there yet and THAT is the
The Anglo-American coalition always worked to undermine the EURO, to a point that was in their national interests (at least the Americans, it is
harder to define the UK position, that is not rooted on the currency but on a moronic but historically consistent geopolitical dislike and distrust
for France that has valid reasons even if outdated and only persistent by a refusal to address them). The problem of the UK with the EU is more about
political structure and unwillingness to go the path of a true federation.
The issues with the Anglo-American coalition are two fold, economic and military, but it can be summarized to keeping the projection of power over
the world, and so it is also political. Economically Germany has always been a issue, having Germany and France cooperating is something they would
like to avoid and undermine as much as possible. A failure of the EURO and of the EU (that would be the consequence of the disintegration process), is
very much to the interest of the Anglo-American coalition.
Then we can look at the military interests how NATO serves the interests of the American Military industrial complex that now also has gained control
of all UK interests. Having a European Army would end the lucrative arms deals and even undermine the mind-lock that the US has on many of the top
ranks in most of Europe that go periodically to the US for formation.
An independent Europe is not at all what they want not because of the fear for the repetition of the past (that is exacerbated by the disintegration
or even by keeping the process of integration to go forward, like we've seen in the Balkans).
Europeans like the EURO and the free movement, they appreciate the benefits of integration more that Americans do when referencing the Federal
Government. One thing that is true is that we do not like the political structure of the EU as is, but that again was fostered in great part by the
Anglo-American coalition (and then France, much more than Germany). Germany benefited from the EU and the EURO during their own integration (East and
West Germany), even now they have much to lose from a collapse due to how their banks have invested in the EURO-zone and we could even say that the
present crisis has been in part beneficial to Germany that had a very grave demographic problem and is not as attractive to immigrants from the south
mostly due to the language barrier but also for the high level of mobility of their work force that does not match easily other nations educational
I think that the Anglo-American coalition should look themselves in the mirror as they are even more rotten economically and socially than most of
Europe. The troubles in France were racial based and due to a lack of cultural integration with migrants, now look at the UK and US and see what is
waiting to happen, it is not the fringe of society. Economically the quantitative easing done in the US and the UK will be extremely damaging in the
long run, the pressure that has been put on Germany to agree with this idiotic policy shows clearly how corrupted into the "lending" crazy that was
created in the US most of the European governments have become. I applaud Germany to stand fast and require both a limitation to borrowing and of
taxes integration (it is idiotic to no end to have nations on the EU-zone competing for external investment using tax breaks without no central