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Texas A&M Reports Shooting

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posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 03:50 PM
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Originally posted by apushforenlightment I can literaly feel it and have many instances where I see red nowdays and wanna do violence against certain people who are for me the scum of the earth.


I know what you mean - I am glad my therapist has a good sense of humor.

When she asks me the question do you feel like hurting yourself or others I have to give a sly smile and answer with the question....

Counting in the car on the way here or just my trip to Wal-Mart.

To which she invariably replies – well I mean that you think you might not be able to restrain yourself from acting on?

I have infinite patience for a farmer on the combine going from one field to another (since I am a farmer myself I guess) but for people driving 30 in a 60 who can’t see over the wheel…no patience what so ever. I just hope when my time comes I will know when to admit it’s time to stop trying to drive a car and call my kids for a ride or something.




posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 03:56 PM
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posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 04:38 PM
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Why does this seem like a count down to me...? if I see 2 public officials shot...I will start to worry!



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 04:56 PM
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Cell phone video captures fatal shooting scene near Texas A&M

www.khou.com...

This from the medic across the street.

www.huffingtonpost.com...



Rigo Cisneros, 40, an Army medic who served a tour in Afghanistan, observed the shooting from his home across the street.
“After the fourth or fifth shot I stuck my head out the door and could hear actual gun fire,” he said by telephone. “I took cover and observed that there was an officer down.”

It was unclear how long the shooting lasted, but Mr. Cisneros said the suspect exchanged fire with the police. He said the suspect seemed to be holding either an M4 or M16 assault rifle.

He said when the shooting stopped, he ran over and found the constable shot in the chest and another officer with less severe wounds. The suspect had been shot multiple times in the legs and upper torso, he said; two passersby had also been shot. ****Mr. Cisneros said he attempted to give CPR to the constable, but said he was immobile and had no pulse. When paramedics arrived, Mr. Cisneros said he began attending the suspect, who was the other officer had already been handcuffed.

The suspect, who lived across the street but Mr. Cisneros said he did not know him, was conscious and asked forgiveness for shooting the officers. Mr. Cisneros said the police told him that law enforcement officials initially visited the suspect’s house on Monday to deliver an eviction notice.




posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 05:00 PM
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Originally posted by Sabreblade
reply to post by kozmo
 

"Gun -Ban Agenda?"
"Obama has signed a law that permits Amtrak passengers to carry guns in their checked baggage and another that allows visitors to national parks and wildlife refuges to possess concealed guns."
articles.chicagotribune.com...


He also allowed thousands of assualt rifles to walk right into Mexico, un-tracked, and into the hands of drug gangs.... By your logic, he is for arming blood-thirsty drug gangs as well, right? As farf as your post above... one cannot pass a law granting a right already guaranteed by the COnstitution. Just sayin'...



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 05:08 PM
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Oh no, another senseless tragedy, this time in my own state. I pray for their families and hope it's no one I know. I have no idea what is going on this year with all the shootings.

I see people yelling at eachother on the streets almost everyday now and it's worrisome. Is the heat making us snap at eachother? We've had 100+ degree temps here for a while now.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 05:23 PM
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I am never travelling to the U.S, again.

I'll spend my money here, take my daughter to Sea World instead of Disney-Land and not have my junk grabbed at the airport.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 05:23 PM
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Mr. Cisneros said the police told him that law enforcement officials initially visited the suspect’s house on Monday to deliver an eviction notice


This is what the local news out of San Antonio also stated. Sounds like a victim of the economic down turn gone enraged..



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 05:29 PM
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We get 100 degree heat in australia most of the year.
We do not go round snapping at each other because of it.
Let alone shooting people because of it.

There is no conspiracy or agenda the fact is, people are stressed out and some people have no regard for their life and the life of others, so they have had enough, are fed up with everything and believe there is no hope and they are prepared to end their life in a blaze of glory. Quite sad really. It is the innocent people doing their job and the families of those involved and affected along with the community that are left to pick up the pieces.

So nope no conspiracy or mass gun awareness campaigns.

Just sociology and the time we live in.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 05:55 PM
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I am so tired of seeing comments like 'why is this all happening now?' These things aren't new, shootings that leave multiple people dead happen almost every day. The reason there is so much outcry from people now is because these events are now being plastered all over the news.

Why is it that these crazy nutjob stories get national attention and the ones below do not?

Robbers on the run after homeowner pulls gun

Investigators with the Ocilla Police Department say that two men with a shotgun busted into a home in the 600 block of Lincoln Street around 1:30 AM Thursday morning. There they found children asleep in the living room, held them at gunpoint and demanded money.


Robbery stopped by senior citizen with gun

A group of would-be jewel thieves picked the wrong store to try and rob. Surveillance video shows five men storming the jewelry store in Garden Grove, California, pointing guns at customers and employees. Before getting their hands on a single jewel, the 65-year-old owner opens fire, sending them scrambling for the door.


Here is what happens when homeowners don't have guns....

76 year old shot during home invasion

a female real estate agent was locking up after showing a home on the 7400 block of Hillside Drive when an unknown male suspect confronted her at the front door. Source: 76-Year-old Shot in La Jolla Home Invasion | NBC 7 San Diego



During the confrontation, the suspect retrieved a rifle from his car and fired two rounds at the ground. He then pointed the rifle at the homeowner and fired a third round that grazed the victim’s face, police said. Source: 76-Year-old Shot in La Jolla Home Invasion | NBC 7 San Diego


When was the homeowner supposed to call the police? At what point would have been appropriate to tell the suspect to hold on and wait until they arrive? "Can you stop pointing that gun at me while I get my phone and call the police please?" No, that doesn't work.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 07:37 PM
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Anyone have a name for the female civilian wounded? Strange way to define a person. Was it the wife, a girlfriend, his mother? Obviously if she was at this house she had to have some connection.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 07:43 PM
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www.huffingtonpost.com...-mother-has-suspicions-her-so n-thomas-a-caffall-is-the-am-shooter



The shooting suspect appears to be Thomas A. Caffall, 35, although that information could not be immediately confirmed with local police.

Officials with College Park police department described the shooter as a 35-year-old male.

Caffall is listed in public records as a resident at 211 Fidelity St. in College Station, which police identified as the shooter's house, and is 35-years-old.

Caffall's mother, Linda Weaver, reached by phone by The Huffington Post, said she believed the shooter was her son.

"We have not been notified by the authorities yet, but our suspicions are that it is my son," Weaver said. "We are just devastated. He's been very deeply troubled."

Weaver said her son had been having "difficulties" with his mental health in recent years.

"The minute I saw the TV I knew it was him," she said. "I've been that worried about him."

She added that she was horrified at the loss of life. "If you're going to commit suicide, why take all these other people with you?" she said.

-- John Rudolf, Huffington Post Reporter




posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 07:45 PM
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The shooter..
www.punditpress.com...




Possibly the weapon.

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posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 07:50 PM
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KPRC Local 2 investigative reporter Robert Arnold tracked down Caffall's family on Monday afternoon, and his stepfather said he was not shocked that Caffall was involved.

"We are devastated for the families that this SOB killed," stepfather Richard Weaver said.

Arnold asked Weaver if he had any indication that something like this was coming.

"He was crazy as hell," Weaver said. "At one point, we were afraid that he was going to come up here and do something to his mother and me."

Weaver said he was aware of the eviction. He said Caffall quit his job about nine months ago and proclaimed he would never work for anybody again.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 07:56 PM
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So it was an eviction notice but the shooting happened outside? Don't people usually baricade themselves in if they want to resist an eviction?



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 07:59 PM
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The media hyping this shooting is nothing more than supporting the political agenda of the current administration in the U.S. and the anti gun crowd, brady bunch, etc. Nothing more, nothing less.

For crying out loud, here's a quote, and mind you it ONLY includes Baltimore, MD.

If you're afraid to be in the U.S.A. as a result of any of the shootings that have had the finest publicity available, don't do any real research into the killing that's going on around you or you'll simply drop dead of fear right in your tracks...

"There have been 128 homicides in 2012 to date"

essentials.baltimoresun.com...



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 08:07 PM
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posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 08:18 PM
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ATTENTION!!!!!!



This thread is not about gun-control.
That is for another thread.

Please discuss only the Texas A&M incident.
Off topic posts will continue to be removed.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 08:27 PM
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So staying on topic, why are they using the vague term 'civilan bystander'? How did this gun fight play out where innocent bystanders were shot in the street. Did bullets go through walls? Why was this man being evicted, and why would he resist with armed force? Did he have prior criminal record? Why is the media comparing this to the sikh and batman shooting? Aside from it being near, but not on a campus, this is an eviction related confrontation, not crazy killer, or at least that is what it seems from the vague information we have. Too many names not being released to have any idea if the civilian woman has a connection. The news says the shoiter was divorced, but girlfriend? Ex? Random passerby? Why was a 65 year old man and I think a 55 year old woman walking down an off campus street, close to college restaurants and hotels. Why was a mid 30s person living in a house close to college? (old school? Hence an eviction?) Thats all I got for now.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 08:29 PM
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Ya, this is very near where I live. I knew the constable who was killed, and my prayers go out to his family. Truly a tragedy. Apparently the national news has missed some of the details as well. The constable was going to serve an eviction notice, and apparently the man opened the door and shot him, ending his life quickly. I guess this is when the gunman came outside, because he shot bystanders and a more police officers before he was killed. The location of this apartment was not on campus, as has been reported in some places, but was off campus. It was quite near to campus though, and this was definitely not something we are used to in this area.

Some were saying that all he had to do was barricade himself inside, but tactically speaking, from his perspective, that wouldn't have been the best option. Had he done so, the College Station swat team would have arrived shortly afterwards, as the police wouldn't have went in with just patrol officers...Swat would've invoked a standoff, and if the guy wouldn't give up, they would shoot tear gas in and try to flush him out. If he didn't come out, then they would go in. Had that occurred, the man would have killed or wounded less people. Therefore, from what he was trying to do, his choice was tactically sound. In the open he could cause more damage, but will have less time...Barricading offers more time, but he would have caused less damage. I don't know what his motivations were, besides the eviction, but apparently he wanted to cause as much human damage as possible.


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