Originally posted by Signals
reply to post by CosmicCitizen
You know, after the first large order, I just couldn't believe or accept the implications. If this is true, wow, just wow.
Looks like we may have to water the tree of liberty again.
Maybe a new regime in the WH can stop this, God I hope so.
Also, whether intended or not, this will affect supply and price of ammo for citizens.edit on 13-8-2012 by Signals because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by CosmicCitizen
reply to post by seeker1963
Maybe they will stage something like Katrina (with gun confiscation) and use the rounds for "training" to stop, search and shoot citizens, if necessary.
Originally posted by Vitruvian
These so-called "orders" for guns and ammo are nothing more or less than pure BS.........This is a military dictatorship you are living in and they damn well are highly secretive about ALL OF THEIR CRIMINAL ACTIONS. You know ONLY what they want you to know - so rest assured that all of these supposed "ORDERS" for bombs, guns and ammo (and whatever else) are part of a larger psy-op propaganda operation..........and don't dare ask me to prove what I know to be true. I worked hard for that info and I'll be damned if i am going to reveal it to skeptics and non-believers.edit on 13-8-2012 by Vitruvian because: spell/edit
Originally posted by texasgirl
I came across this yesterday:
Are they preparing for martial law this year? Some witnesses are claiming that there were Russian troops that started several fires in Colorado a couple months ago, including in Colorado City. Remember that massive fire?
I have no idea how legit Activist Post is, though, and I don't have much knowledge when it comes to military and weapons. Buying tons of rounds of ammo sounds alittle scary, though.
Can someone look at this link and tell me what they think?
Originally posted by johnosal
Originally posted by ElohimJD
Originally posted by getreadyalready
Somewhere above 220,000 employees fall under the purview of DHS. Some are going to be support and admin of course, but a billion rounds is only about 4,000 rounds per employee. (corrected math)
Say only 25% of the employee force has to qualify with weapons, that is still 60,000 people. 50 rounds of practice per year per person, and about 10 in a magazine to carry on duty, and you have a need for 600,000 hollow points, and 3 million practice rounds each year. Hopefully the ones that really are in the mix are shooting a lot more than 50 rounds of training per year, so the numbers published seem just about right.
As far as hollow points being banned by the Geneva Convention.... that was a stupid move. We use hollow points because it gives more knockdown power and less chance of pass-through to unintended targets. A practice round would actually be MORE DANGEROUS in a LEO or domestic situation, because you might hit someone behind your intended target, or ricochet and hit just about anyone. I use an "extreme frangible" in my carry guns, because it is even more dangerous to the intended target, and less dangerous to everyone else. Air Marshall's supposedly use something similar to avoid damaging an airplane if they have to fire it onboard.
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You were correct before.
These ammunitions are never meant to be used by US military/DHS against US citizens. They are to be used by a foreign occupying force (NATO) on behalf of the US governement, due to the inability of US military personnel to fire against US citizens.
It is the preparring that DHS and FEMA are responsible for, neither orginization will be the ones in possession of these items, or executing any portion of plan once martial law is enacted and NATO troops begin the occupation of the US.
Cut of the cities (isolation), then control the food. It is not hard with a foreign occupation force that has 30,000 UAVs at their disposal, millions of cameras in city intersections for monitoring, and a US freeway system designed to aid martial law scenarios (only a couple ways to get from city to city).
Thanks for getting the numbers for us. I can now agree that they are most likely not ordering these bullets to harm the American people.
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
That's a LOT of ammo, and way more than needed for training.
Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes
NO WAY that is for training, and that doesn't count all the rounds ordered by other government agencies, that should not even have a need to carry a gun, like forestry people, weather guys, tax men, etc.
Preface: There might be an innocent explanation. But given recent trends, this is worrisome.
The Social Security Administration (SSA) confirms that it is purchasing 174 thousand rounds of hollow point bullets to be delivered to 41 locations in major cities across the U.S.
Those against whom the hollow point bullets are to be used — those causing the civil unrest — must be American citizens; since the SSA has never been used overseas to help foreign countries maintain control of their citizens.
What would be the target of these 174, 000 rounds of hollow point bullets? It can’t simply be to control demonstrators or rioters. Hollow point bullets are so lethal that the Geneva Convention does not allow their use on the battle field in time of war. Hollow point bullets don’t just stop or hurt people, they penetrate the body, spread out, fragment and cause maximum damage to the body’s organs. Death often follows.
If this were only a one time order of ammunition, it could easily be dismissed. But there is a pattern here. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) has ordered 46,000 rounds of hollow point ammunition. Notice that all of these purchases are for the lethal hollow nose bullets. These bullets are not being purchased and stored for squirrel or coyote hunting. This is serious ammunition manufactured to be used for serious purposes.