Syrian "Rebels" Slaughtering Civilians

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posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by FearYourMind
RT News has picked up the video and say ..."the majority of Syria support their government". They also state "The U.S. government has no interest in a peaceful solution to the conflict". Tables are turning. Expect more western propaganda. The U.S. gov't wants Assad out and couldn't care less about what the Syrian people want. This isn't about supporting "Freedom Fighters" anymore and never was.




I find it hard to believe that a government composed by a Sectarian minority has the support of most Lybians, which has to include the Sectarian majority they lord over.




posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 07:19 PM
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They fear the rebels more than they fear Assad. This is because Al Qaeda is suspected of playing a big hand in these rebel groups. They've seen what's happened in other countries after regimes were taken down. It just becomes the wild wild west for Al Qaeda. After their leaders are taken out there's nobody around to stop them.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 07:51 PM
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Originally posted by FearYourMind
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They fear the rebels more than they fear Assad. This is because Al Qaeda is suspected of playing a big hand in these rebel groups. They've seen what's happened in other countries after regimes were taken down. It just becomes the wild wild west for Al Qaeda. After their leaders are taken out there's nobody around to stop them.


Which begs the question; Why are Western governments supporting terrorists posing as 'freedom fighters'?

I fear the answer is even more insidious than what we see in these videos posted by the OP and others.

When you think about the ramifications of the conclusions we must draw about our respective countries' involvement in supporting these evil scum, knowing all the while we are supporting financially and physically the very terrorists that have been made to be the bogey men threatening to kill us all in our beds over the last 11 years...yet here we are in 2012 with our governments paying hundreds of millions in unspecified 'aid' money, covertly supplying arms, and given moral support and comfort to the so-called enemy...namely 'the terrorists' AKA al-Qaeda.

There's a word for that, it's the same now as it was during WW2...TRAITOR.

I always took the banter about 'the government is in on it up to their necks with a Zionist agenda' with a pinch of salt really...i don't anymore.

Whatever these victims were supposedly accused of, they had the legal and moral right to a hearing in a court of their peers and to argue against their persecutors.

They were tortured, murdered and butchered...for propaganda use to drum up 'the fear to follow'.

Freedom fighters my arse. Murdering scum.
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posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 08:37 PM
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Great first thread---to a certain extent. I'm so tired of reading a thread that has a good base to it, but ultimately turns out to be an anti-american thread. Do you really think that Americans are controlling this small group of rebels that committed these crimes? Give me proof that my tax dollars funded this nasty act. I also think that if you are going to speak about the fact that the US is backing the rebels, maybe you should speak of the other countries that are backing the rebels, and speak of the very few countries that think that the Syrian Gov. is in the right. This is what happens during war, but do you really think the entire FSR commits crimes like this. I think your thread is great, but you are bashing the US. You also did not supply any links that can confirm that these people were civilians. I'm not saying that they're not ---but. Have you seen the same type of vids that supposedly show the Syrian Gov. slaughtering civilians? How do we, as Americans, Brits, Aussies, Russians, Chinese, Japanese, French, Germans, Smurfs, etc. know the truth. We don't., all we have are youtube vids that we have to interpret for ourselves. CNN did say that it was rebels throwing bodies of soldiers off the building, but from what I saw, they didn't say anything about civilians. You are interpreting these vids the way you see it, I value your opinion, but I can see what side of the fence you are on. Remember, you should look at the evidence from both sides of the story. It sucks that this is happening.

PS ---Show me some evidence this civil war relates to the US taking Syrias oil. Please



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 08:40 PM
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You know what....

I jjust don't care anymore..!!

They want to act like barbarians (both sides, all sides). LET EM' and let god or Allah or whoever sort em' out.

I've had enough of the middle east and I'm sick of hearing about it. They are all a bunch of murdering savages.

I say to hell with middle east oil, we should just finally start mass using an alternative fuel source.

All western countries need to pull out all millitary, business and humaniterian aid and close our eyes, ears and doors to the whole middle east region and leave them to themselves.

Forget about them completely untill who ever wins or gains control, decides to bring war to us instead, then wipe them from the face of the erth.
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posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 08:50 PM
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You could not be more right. We have our own resources, If they want to kill each other, that's fine. We need to keep our money at home repairing our infrastructure, taking care of problems with the Mexican border, and swapping recipes with our Canadian friends. Poutine is the best!!!!



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 08:58 PM
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It was also interesting how the massacres apparently doe by the government targeted government supporters, and happened at one of the last media peaks to intervene = brainwash for "bomb" Syria.
One only need look at Libya, to see how successful that could be. Hell there's even our badly DU deformed baby in Afghanistan. All the Afghans who supported us will be tortured, or will end up in countries, because we would not put The Northern Alliance in power (who hated the Taliban, and wanted democracy). No...
We would only settle for an exact copy of Western democracy, and have then tried to impose it in a tribal society on the grounds it's racist-xenophobic it will not work. Just like (most) people called racist xenophobic they are actually intelligent & observant. That's why words like xenophobic (which carry all the intelligence of 4 letter words) are used to shout-shame them down, for daring to be independent of the sheep.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 08:58 PM
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It would be good if there was a more balanced commentary on this Syrian problem. All we're still hearing (both in MSM and alternate) is really polarised sh%$. Who knows what the f to believe. All the videos / pics that are coming out of this struggle need to be looked at carefully as no-one knows if they are actually legit. History hasn't even started to judge this conflict. I know the saying "first casualty in war is truth", but this is ridiculous.

talk of jihadists / Al-qaeda, russians, iranians, mercs, us / israel proxy... list goes on. All we can do is base our conjecture on some majorly propagandised scraps. what's the conspriracy here? no-one f$%^#* knows! but it's pretty obvious there is one considering how much MSM info has been manufactured BS.

Are the FSA telling porkies? yep!
Is the MSM having us on? yep!
are the pro-syrian guys talking out of their arse? you bet.

Don't get me wrong, this post isn't aimed at anyone, just some thoughts having just switched off the TV.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 09:02 PM
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This news report with Ben Swann from Reality Check goes into why we suspect we are supporting Al Qaeda in Syria. Check it out. Ben Swann is a very intelligent man who earned a bachelor’s in liberal arts from BYU in 1993, at age 15. He got a master’s in history at 16, in 1994. Just a little background info on him for you.




posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 09:08 PM
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People think that the US involvement in the Middle East is about oil. In my opinion, I don't think so. It's more about the powers of the world having military bases in other countries. The more powerful countries on this planet want to be in striking distance from their counterparts. I understand that Russia, and China shot down NATO's attempt at intervening in Syria. Has that ever stopped the US from acting on their own----NO. The US isn't going to push the matter because Russia already has a Naval base there. There isn't room for both big dogs there. Before we know it, the stronger countries are going to be occupying the countries that can't stand up for themselves. By allowing a stronger country to build military bases in their country, they will feel safe. When the occupation by the strong countries over the weaker countries happens, that is when the big dogs are going to fight WW3.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 09:33 PM
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Thanks for your reply. I had to watch your vid twice. The points made, and the info was great. Some of it was still speculation and opinion on Ben Swanns part. I'm not saying that I don't believe it, but it was like he took a good story and should have never added his --what I call---- opinion. Maybe it was Al Qaeda that threw the soldiers off the building and not the rebels. The rebels are probably going to accept help from anybody (they need it), but after watching the video you posted, it looks more like there could be a faction war after the Syrian Gov. is defeated. It looks more like Al Qaeda is looking for a permanent home. Ya know--help the rebels -then kill them, type of thing. Also, what do think of the Al Qaeda comment at 1:30 of the video. I'm not sure what to think of it. This vid does make a lot of sense.
Like spoogemonkey said, we will probably never know who's right, who's wrong, or who is to blame. FearYorMind ---you have my brain wheels turning---Thanks.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 09:37 PM
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You could not be more right. We have our own resources, If they want to kill each other, that's fine. We need to keep our money at home repairing our infrastructure, taking care of problems with the Mexican border, and swapping recipes with our Canadian friends. Poutine is the best!!!!
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I couldn't agree more and I hope people understand that I'm not defending Assad or the Al Qaeda rebels. I simply wish we would mind our own business and stay out of it, but unfortunately that's not going to happen so we may as well see it all for what it is now. I just want to raise awareness about who we are supporting over there. Maybe exposure will change the agenda in the Middle East. Maybe not. I know a lot of people are on top of this, but msm keeps glorifying these Al Qaeda rebels and demonizing Assad. It's deceptive journalism. I don't think many people support the funding of these rebels in the first place. If they knew what we were really supporting there would be more outrage and people speaking out against it. This isn't an anti-American thread by any means. I'm just an American with a lot of concerns. I didn't question Iraq, Afghanistan, or even Libya, but I've come to a point now where I can no longer bite my tongue.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 09:39 PM
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When it first began, I was following a thread elsewhere with reports from Twitter and this is what was said, the rebels killed whole families and beheaded children, the water supply was poisoned. Someone from Egypt piped in that this is how the CIA/Brotherhood combo, did it there too.

And this link:
www.presstv.ir...


None of insurgents were Syrian: UK journalist


They don't want to go under SHARIA!

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posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 09:40 PM
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Did you see the CNN report about 2 weeks back about one of the top Libyan rebels was going to take his battalion into Syria. He also said that he would help train the Syrian rebels, from what I remember.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 09:48 PM
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I don't think many people support the funding of these rebels in the first place. If they knew what we were really supporting there would be more outrage and people speaking out against it. This isn't an anti-American thread by any means. I'm just an American with a lot of concerns.
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Now I totally understand what you're saying. I heard that we are only supplying radio (communications) equipment. That is still expensive. That money could fix all the potholes in the road in the county I live in. Instead they would rather give a ticket for having a loud vehicle and charging me $100 for it.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 09:51 PM
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Do you think if the US had another civil war, another country would swoop in to take it from us? It appears that is what is happening in Syria. Al Qaeda needs a new home
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posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 09:53 PM
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You took the words right out of my mouth
gj toning it down
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posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 09:54 PM
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Yes and I would suspect he's Al Qaeda as well. Al Qaeda has pretty much claimed their victory in Libya....raising their flag at the Benghazi courthouse and driving through the streets with the flag as well.

Here's a little from this Telegraph article about it.



The flag, complete with Arabic script reading "there is no God but Allah" and full moon underneath, was seen flying above the Benghazi courthouse building, considered to be the seat of the revolution, according to the news website Vice.com. The flag was said to be flying over the building alongside the Libyan national flag but the National Transitional Council has denied that it was responsible. Vice.com also reported that Islamists had been seen driving around the city's streets, waving the Al Qaeda flag from their cars and shouting "Islamiya, Islamiya! No East, nor West". The revelation came just days after it emerged that rebels in Libya have imposed Sharia law in the some parts of country since seizing power.

www.... telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindianocean/libya/8861608/Libya-Al-Qaeda-flag-flown-above-Benghazi-courthouse.html
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Here's another source with pictures of rebels waving the Al Qaeda flag in Libya - Source
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posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 10:00 PM
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I'm not sure I believe that article. British insurgents? Unless they are some very serious radicals, I highly doubt it. If the British or the Pakistanis wanted Syria, they would take it, and take it quik. The article did say extremist, but if they were to overthrow the Syrian Gov., do you think they could co-exist . I've never heard of a British extremist before, but maybe I'm out of the loop.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 10:11 PM
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That could be very ugly if Al Qaeda gets their hands on a couple of Middle Eastern countries. Why would that Libyan offer help if he wasn't Al Qaeda? Example---If you just got in a nasty bar fight --are you going to come fight mine. Probably not, unless you have a motive. We need to stay away from the Middle East. It seems that there are a lot of crap going on that we don't need. When it's all said and done, if we don't like who's in charge, then bomb his castle. Until it's done, let's save our money and have a night in sitting on the couch watching our elected officials make asses of themselves on TV





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