71-year-old taken to the ground for questioning Paul Ryan

Don't fall for this trick.

IMO, this was a "planted" disruption.

The "Ultra-left" uses these tactics all the time

Perfect for casting false shadows.

Originally posted by xuenchen

Don't fall for this trick.

IMO, this was a "planted" disruption.

The "Ultra-left" uses these tactics all the time

Perfect for casting false shadows.

and the far right would never use such tactics?
the whole point is to keep us divided, quit falling for it all!

Originally posted by pointr97

Originally posted by texasgirl
I watched the video and it looks like they took him away before giving Ryan a chance to respond. The blood pressure remark was in bad taste, though. AND he could've stopped security to listen to what the man had to say. Oh, dang, Ryan...

Absolutely, Paul, 'No guys, stand down, let him speak, i would like to hear what he has to say.'

Or better yet, 'Sir, I really want to hear your concerns, could you lower your tone a bit, here is a microphone so we can hear you without you feeling the need to yell. If these are your concerns, they are probably of concern to a number of people sitting in this room. ....'

'Alright Sir, I understand your concerns, and here is how I as the future VP will help you.'

We know that from customer service experience, if you listen and fix an irate customers concerns......They will not only be very happy, but you will have won them for life(or a really long time).

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Exactly,
The politicans are no longer even faking concern!. They just mock. I guess those Cremation of Care rituals are working eh? "We no longer have to CARE about anyone or anything, just OUR profits and security"

reply to post by acidsweep


The police are the minions of the elite. THey just do anything to get a pay check.

While I am not a HUGE fan of Obama, I can't imagine anyone actually voting for Romney/Ryan..

Originally posted by xuenchen

Don't fall for this trick.

IMO, this was a "planted" disruption.

The "Ultra-left" uses these tactics all the time

Perfect for casting false shadows.

The "ultra left' REALLY??

Come on , there is no secret that Ryan wants to gut the govt.

So was Ryan in the know? that he can just make pompous careless comments about citizens he could potentially represent? Nice..

Originally posted by Trivium68
reply to post by acidsweep

 

The police are the minions of the elite. THey just do anything to get a pay check.

While I am not a HUGE fan of Obama, I can't imagine anyone actually voting for Romney/Ryan..

Yep, you're pretty much right. Sometimes I wonder if we'll ever get out of this downward spiral.

I'm not a fan of Obama either, but even less of a fan of Romney & Ryan Inc. Why can't we get Ron Paul??? It's a shame TPTB won't have any of that.

Originally posted by Domo1
reply to post by elitegamer23

 

No they should not speak up if he is giving a speech and they were warned prior that interruptions would result in being escorted out or arrest. You should be able to give a speech without being shouted down. If you have an issue give a speech at your own event or protest outside.

So we have to listen to these clowns and give them "respect" at all times and if we protest, or speak out, or cry foul?

While I agree that there may be times and places and certain tact (as the Republican that called out to Obama during his state of the Union speech a LIAR.. that was inappropriate because everyone knows that the state of the union is a dog and pony show.. just play nice and fight when you stand up before congress and make your points known.

Whatever, our political system is a joke. Our public discourse is a joke...

you can't speak out and when you do, you are mocked and taken down. SO much for the 1st amendment..!

reply to post by acidsweep

Why can't we get Ron Paul??? It's a shame TPTB won't have any of that.

You do realize Ron Paul wants to do away with social security... The fun part is that he cashes his checks but wants young people like me to opt out.

Reminds me of the time the ex-CIA agent who used to brief Presidents confronted Hillary Clinton and he was hauled out of the room. She just smiled while they took him away, instead of engaging in a real dialogue. Meanwhile, her speech was about 'free speech'. I can understand the worry that's a part of being a public figure, but Ryan just told us all we need to know about the man's actual attitude towards the people he wants to be a 'servant' to.

In that small a venue, it would have been very easy to tell the security people to let him speak. The joke he cracked was snide and unnecessary and reminded me of the way Romney treats people, like peons.

Originally posted by Domo1
reply to post by acidsweep

 

Why can't we get Ron Paul??? It's a shame TPTB won't have any of that.

You do realize Ron Paul wants to do away with social security... The fun part is that he cashes his checks but wants young people like me to opt out.

Yes, he wants to do away with it, a man called him on it, and not only didn't address the issue, followed it with an inappropriate comment..

But who is this He your speaking of Ryan, the old guy taken away in cuffs for speaking his mind, or the Man?

Originally posted by Domo1
You do realize Ron Paul wants to do away with social security... The fun part is that he cashes his checks but wants young people like me to opt out.

Wants?

Opting out is a choice, you just lost your argument
Epic Fail

Secondly even your Cenk from Young Turks said sure Ron Paul can disagree with it while using it because it's the current system

But go ahead, try to make choice look bad

Originally posted by Domo1
reply to post by acidsweep

 

Why can't we get Ron Paul??? It's a shame TPTB won't have any of that.

You do realize Ron Paul wants to do away with social security... The fun part is that he cashes his checks but wants young people like me to opt out.

Yes, I'm aware. But by the looks of things, SS is going out the door regardless if we want it to or not. Ron Paul, to me, at least has a plan that would actually turn this country around. Sure, it'll be hard at first, but it will be America, not Amerika.

p.s. as a previous poster said, you'd be given a choice, correct?

reply to post by ModernAcademia


Here's the video

Originally posted by Domo1
reply to post by acidsweep

 

Why can't we get Ron Paul??? It's a shame TPTB won't have any of that.

You do realize Ron Paul wants to do away with social security... The fun part is that he cashes his checks but wants young people like me to opt out.

I am glad that you brought that up because I have actually been thinking a lot about Paul Ryan/Ron Paul for the last 24 hours. My posts here will show that I am a registered Republican who voted for Obama and has been slowly falling for Ron Paul. I know, it sounds like I am just confused, but there were well thought out reasons!

In terms of Ron Paul and Paul Ryan being very different it really comes down to the role of government.
Paul Ryan voted for Republican debt. He voted for the unfunded wars. So, his concerns about the budget seem less a concern about the role of government than about who government benefits.

There are things about Ron Paul's vision for the country that terrify me. The lack of a Federal safety net is one of them. But, he would not preclude the states... Still, there are things I think we need to have as a society that Ron Paul would take away at least at a Federal level. After a long, long, time studying his ideas I find that I can't really find a Constitutional bias against him. I do think he would provide a great reboot to the country. But it is because of his ideas, not his spending cuts. In fact, it is despite his spending cuts that I have come to appreciate Ron Paul.

To me, that means that Paul Ryan would give me all the parts of Ron Paul that frighten me but would not come with the real philosophy that would make that pain worthwhile.

Not an attack. Just my thoughts. Because I do think Romney might have thought to scoop a few (or more) Ron Paul backers with the Paul Ryan pick. If Romney doesn't really understand Ron Paul I can see why he would think that. But, I think it was a fail if that was his intent.

Effing prick making fun of a poor guys age and/or possible health conditions and not treating him as a citizen who righteously deserves the questions a politician is asked, and I am younger than Paul POS Ryan. This guy is not a statesman like Ron Paul, no where even close. Id like to get in a debate with this guy I will show him who is boss.

Originally posted by ModernAcademia

Originally posted by Domo1
You do realize Ron Paul wants to do away with social security... The fun part is that he cashes his checks but wants young people like me to opt out.

Wants?

Opting out is a choice, you just lost your argument
Epic Fail

Secondly even your Cenk from Young Turks said sure Ron Paul can disagree with it while using it because it's the current system

But go ahead, try to make choice look bad

Congrats on ruining the streak we had going. It was a nice polite thread. Now I'm failing on an epic level.

Paul and Ryan both want social security to go away. Nothing I said was an 'epic fail'. I didn't lose any argument, they both still want social security gone. My Cenk? I don't know who or what a Cenk is. Nothing wrong with choice, but both realize SS is a sinking ship. I was merely pointing out that blasting Ryan and praising Paul is silly when they want the same thing. The end of a failing program.

Who says epic fail anymore? lol ur Mom. lol.

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Originally posted by ModernAcademia
reply to post by ModernAcademia

 

Here's the video

Thumbs up for the video! I liked that!

reply to post by watcher3339

Not an attack. Just my thoughts. Because I do think Romney might have thought to scoop a few (or more) Ron Paul backers with the Paul Ryan pick. If Romney doesn't really understand Ron Paul I can see why he would think that. But, I think it was a fail if that was his intent.

No, awesome points. I totally see where you're coming from. I actually wonder if picking Ryan was a way to pull back some Paul supporters into the election.

Originally posted by Domo1
reply to post by THE_PROFESSIONAL

 

Oh please, Ryan would wipe the floor with you. He wiped the floor with Obama. You're just an angry muslim kid that likes posting on a conspiracy site. You couldn't even show us the color of your skin when you made a video and showed it to us. You wore gloves.

Haha, an angry muslim kid haha, thats a good one. Do you ahve proof I am a muslim? I am leaving you to your conspiracies so that you can't point out which race I am, black white, yellow, or 'muslim' right. Why are you so interested in my race?

I could debate with Paul ryan and eat him for breakfast without even trying.

You're just an angry muslim kid that likes posting on a conspiracy site.

And your just an angry cat who likes posting on a conspiracy site.