71-year-old taken to the ground for questioning Paul Ryan

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posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 04:37 PM
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Originally posted by jacobe001
Ryan will fit right in along with the rest of the criminal politicians in DC

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Unfortunately, I have to agree.




posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 04:39 PM
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Well it sort of changes the claim that hes already gaffed post announcement.

The skeletons will come out. I wouldnt call this a skeleton though.



posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 04:41 PM
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Originally posted by Domo1
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Well it sort of changes the claim that hes already gaffed post announcement.

The skeletons will come out. I wouldnt call this a skeleton though.


the fact he has no respect for senior citizens is kinda a skeleton considering they are such a huge voting block for the gop.



posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 04:47 PM
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Paul Ryan watching this happen:

"I hope he took his blood pressure medicine"

HA HA HA, Paul Ryan, good of you to get that zinger in there.

I hope AARP takes you down, then we'll all be laughing.



posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 04:53 PM
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Wow. That blood pressure remark is going to really alienate seniors who may already be concerned or threatened by his proposed budget cuts.

It's a said day in America when Rotarians are being wrestled to the ground. All hail the Police State.
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posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 05:09 PM
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Yep, Lavish Healthcare, Retirement Plans, High Lifestyle, for these crooks, all paid for with our money, while the rest of us have to tighten our belts, restrict our free speech, (Free Speech Zones) and show our papers to the Gestapo at the airports and everywhere else they have them planted now.

But it is a "Free Country"


Originally posted by kosmicjack
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Wow. That blood pressure remark is going to really alienate seniors who may already be concerned or threatened by his proposed budget cuts.

It's a said day in America when Rotarians are being wrestled to the ground. All hail the Police State.
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posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 05:17 PM
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I understand I am sorry for assuming to be honest I have not registered or voted since clinton...



posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 05:35 PM
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Paul Ryan is extremely dangerous.

Rather than trying to debate the man, he makes a joke. Very classy. Keep blaming entitlements and teachers, Paul. There will be a new war to make you and your cronies happy.

Sick sick people. All of them.



posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 05:38 PM
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Very well said. I think this is just a silly little witch hunt thread. You don't get to interfere with someone else's rights. What's the saying? Your rights end where mine begin? This man was screwing with everyone's right to listen to Ryan, and Ryan's right to make a speech.



posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by yeahright
The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

Here's when this particular video appeared -

Uploaded by WiscJobsNow on Sep 7, 2011
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This was at a $15 per ticket event for Ryan. It doesn't appear to me this was during a question and answer session. The guy was disruptive, shouting over the speaker. 17 or 70, that's sufficient cause to be removed from the venue.

If he wants to have his own event, free or otherwise, and go on about Ryan, that's his right. Ryan has a right to speak, too, and the people who were there deserve to hear him.

You start letting every wackadoo with an opinion disrupt and interrupt every public event on their whim, and no one ever gets to hear anyone say anything.

All he had to do is sit down and shut up. It's apparent to me he had no intent to do that. It also looks to me like the security who was there used no more than the amount of force necessary to get him out of the room and off the premises. He got what he wanted, and what he was there to do: get attention and slap a negative rap on Ryan as evidenced right here in this thread.

Act like a disruptive fool, be treated like one. And honestly, the thing that troubles me the most is that everyone doesn't see that.

As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.
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Thanks for the link. Like I said, I wanted more information about what happened so I did some more looking up and this Tom Nielsen was sent a ticket from Wisconsin Jobs Now. The group offered tickets and protesters bought them, staging an event outside the rotary club. Nielson was a protester and was there to disrupt the event. These protesters were warned of being arrested if they disrupted Ryan's speech.



posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 05:52 PM
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These protesters were warned of being arrested if they disrupted Ryan's speech.


Good find. I hope some people feel stupid now but of course they won't.
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posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 06:01 PM
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The following is my opinion as a member participating in this discussion.

The whole thing is a distraction. I have no issue with the guy doing his little protest. I have no problem with the police escorting him out of the meeting.

What does bother me is using this sort of nonsensical non-incident as evidence of anything substantive pro or con about Ryan. When are we going to see any meaningful discussion (and I mean specifically on the national stage) about what's really important?

To be honest, any notion I may have entertained about voting for Romney was defenestrated when he climbed on the supposed and obviously misconstrued comment Obama made about businesses (the "you didn't build that" fiasco) and rode it right into political bizarro world.

I'm fed up with the "gotcha" crap and the efforts expended by both sides to ignore meaningful dialogue in favor of finding every miniscule irrelevant piece of nonsense and using that to besmirch the other side.

I'm waiting for someone to step up and tell me why they're better, not why the other guy is worse.

And it really rankles me when I see our members play right into it. Come on, people. If we're not better than what we're fighting against, then what the hell is the point?

The people get the government they deserve, and the guys in Washington will see we get it. Good and hard.


As an ATS Staff Member, I will not moderate in threads such as this where I have participated as a member.



posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 06:01 PM
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Authoritarian heartlessness, what else do you expect from a establishment politician? He should have been escorted out...not arrested.

Maybe his blood pressure is rising because Ryan is trying to privatize medicare.

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posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 06:02 PM
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Yeah, well, we all have the tendency to make snap judgements without all the facts available, myself included.

I repeat, I am not a Romney/Ryan fan but just wanted to know more about what really happened.



posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by texasgirl
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Yeah, well, we all have the tendency to make snap judgements without all the facts available, myself included.

I repeat, I am not a Romney/Ryan fan but just wanted to know more about what really happened.


I do it too. ATS is particularly bad about it and I notice i getting worse. I should have done the same thing as you. All I did was watch the video.



posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 06:08 PM
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What was his crime? Interrupting a politicians speech?

He should have been escorted out, not arrested.



posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 06:11 PM
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Setup.

If you engage in a provocative, aggressive behavior pattern in Walmart, you'll be face-first in the dirt with cuffs on. Law enforcement is trained to de-fuse aggressive behavior before it escalates into his or her pulling a gun and shooting everyone in the room.

Way out of the Bell-curve behavior is typically the inital tip of the iceberg for the incident.



posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by shells4u
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I understand I am sorry for assuming to be honest I have not registered or voted since clinton...



Thank you.

I'm in Arizona so I have to vote. You know what I mean?



posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 06:22 PM
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the day we agree that you cannot question an elected leader no matter the time or place we have lost our voice in this country.

here is a lame example, but what if ryan was talking about forced abortions on all white women because too many white babies are on welfare.

should nobody speak up? i know that is an extreme example but there should never be a time or place that we agree to be silenced.

bad example, but how can any american citizen agree that we shouldnt question an elected leader anytime or anywhere if they are way out of line in, our opinion.

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posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by Domo1
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Very well said. I think this is just a silly little witch hunt thread. You don't get to interfere with someone else's rights. What's the saying? Your rights end where mine begin? This man was screwing with everyone's right to listen to Ryan, and Ryan's right to make a speech.


I don't feel this is a witch hunt at all. I think most will agree the older gentleman should have waited his turn to speak, but the comment/joke mr Ryan made was unneeded. Mr Ryan's 'joke' just shows how insensitive he is to the common American. What I see, from a professional stand point was pure disrespect.

A man in Mr Ryan's position would/should have let the 71yo talk.. Or just keep quiet and let security do it's job. It's about how he handled the situation. If he's unable to handle little outbursts like that in a professional demeanor, he shouldn't be a candidate for any position in the US govt.
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