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Pertaining this video (and many others [you can search for them if you wish]), Mr Ryan in my opinion has very poor character. My opinion stands.
Originally posted by CookieMonster09
Pertaining this video (and many others [you can search for them if you wish]), Mr Ryan in my opinion has very poor character. My opinion stands.
Yeah, well, thank goodness you only get a single vote, right? Because every indication from Ryan's colleagues on both sides of the aisle is that he is highly intelligent, well-read, very informed on budget matters, and is of very high moral character.
He graduated from Miami of Ohio, reputed to be the Harvard of the Midwest. Smart guy - Double major in Political Science and Economics. This guy is no idiot. You would do well to read the entire Ryan Plan online to better understand what it is exactly that he has been proposing.
You may disagree with his politics, but even his competition on the left have not attacked his personal character.
No, we won't take this abuse from the left any further. If the leftist radicals that disrupted this meeting truly were sincere, they would have calmly and politely raised their hand and asked Paul Ryan a question with screaming and ranting and raving.
And, if you are so naive as to not believe that there are radical Communists in this country that want nothing more than to destroy America, you are sadly mistaken.
It's a classic Communist tactic.
Ryan did nothing wrong.
I am concerned that the far left will do anything and everything to destroy this man, just like they smeared Sarah Palin. Nothing is sacred with these attacks, and they will stoop to the lowest levels to stay in power.
Either we take back this country in this next election, or the radical left will send this country's fiscal situation over a cliff.
The left in this country actively promotes Marxist policies. To think otherwise is either naive, or just plain ill informed.
Originally posted by acidsweep
Let me ask you something, what in the world does this have to do with him humiliating a senior citizen (which was recorded on video)??? NOTHING.
Let me ask you something, what in the world does this have to do with him humiliating a senior citizen (which was recorded on video)??? NOTHING.
Leftist radical? He was a #ing 71 year old man! Even if he was a liberal, I cannot see anyway to justify why he had to be taken to the ground and handcuffed!
Ok...please enlighten us all and educate us on where this "tactic" is derived from the Communist Manifesto. I'd like specifics please, since you are making such a bold claim.
How can we expect an elected representative to look out for our best interests in DC when this man could not even take the time to address this man?
You need to be very careful. You may be unknowingly labeling yourself a hypocrite.
If I was a betting man, which I am, I would be willing to bet that you don't even know a damned thing about Marxism and throw that word around because you heard somebody smarter than you using the word. Judging by your past reference to Marxist tactics, my assumption would be right on the ball. Have you even read any communist material?
Originally posted by CookieMonster09
Let me ask you something, what in the world does this have to do with him humiliating a senior citizen (which was recorded on video)??? NOTHING.
No, you attacked Paul Ryan's character on this thread, not me. I was simply pointing out that even his political opponents haven't done so. Ryan has a sterling reputation for being of sound character according to colleagues on both sides of the aisle that have worked with him closely during his time in office.
Again, Ryan continues to get re-elected every 2 years in a district that is primarily Democratic. If he is of such "bad" character as you suggest, why does he get re-elected so often?
You also categorically are making a snap judgment on Ryan's character from a single YouTube video. As I stated earlier, most smart voters look at the politician's record, history, education, etc. before making snap judgments.
Leftist radical? He was a #ing 71 year old man! Even if he was a liberal, I cannot see anyway to justify why he had to be taken to the ground and handcuffed!
If Ryan were President Obama, I can assure you that the police would have arrested this vocal agitator under the same circumstances.
You simply cannot make hostile, threatening, angry remarks at a private speaking event with a major national politician and not expect to get arrested. Good grief.
Ok...please enlighten us all and educate us on where this "tactic" is derived from the Communist Manifesto. I'd like specifics please, since you are making such a bold claim.
Political agitation. Read Marx's Manifesto for yourself. He lays out the tactics quite clearly. It's not my job to be your teacher. Sorry.
How can we expect an elected representative to look out for our best interests in DC when this man could not even take the time to address this man?
Why should any politician address a heckler, especially one that is ranting, raving, screaming, and is clearly out of control?
If only for safety reasons alone, Ryan was right to not engage in further discussion with this raving lunatic, lest this nut case further threaten Ryan's safety.
You need to be very careful. You may be unknowingly labeling yourself a hypocrite.
No, the liberal bias in the media is far worse.
If I was a betting man, which I am, I would be willing to bet that you don't even know a damned thing about Marxism and throw that word around because you heard somebody smarter than you using the word. Judging by your past reference to Marxist tactics, my assumption would be right on the ball. Have you even read any communist material?
Sorry, I don't gamble. And I wouldn't encourage others to do so either - It's against my personal ethos. Too bad, because it might have been a fun discussion to compare intellectual pursuits and prowess, eh?
If you're going to debate, at least make some sense. You sir, throughout this thread, pointed at, and highly suggested that this video was made out of propaganda coming from opposing teams. Now you're saying they think he has high moral character. Please. Just stop posting. You're hurting your cause more than helping.
Originally posted by CookieMonster09
If you're going to debate, at least make some sense. You sir, throughout this thread, pointed at, and highly suggested that this video was made out of propaganda coming from opposing teams. Now you're saying they think he has high moral character. Please. Just stop posting. You're hurting your cause more than helping.
Nice try at obfuscation. Clearly, you are not reading my posts.
Colleagues on Capitol Hill give rave reviews to Congressman Ryan on both sides of the aisle. They commend his intelligence, and his character. They may, however, strongly disagree with his political positions.
Don't twist my words. This was clearly an orchestrated attack against a prominent politician by the far left radicals in the Democratic Party. This is an election year. Of course, this is a propaganda video to smear Ryan.
The only one hurting a "cause" is yourself. Your "cause" is quite transparent. You don't have a candidate with a winning platform, the economy is in the toilet, so all the left can do is smear the other side. Don't worry. We can see right through you.
Can't wait until November. Until then, let the mud slinging continue.
Originally posted by sheepslayer247
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus
And what does this have to do with Paul Ryan and what happened to the old man?
I wanted to add that I believe Geitner worked for the Treasury Dept. and the very end of Reagan's term in 1988.edit on 14-8-2012 by sheepslayer247 because: (no reason given)
After graduation from Dartmouth, Geithner attended the Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies, where he earned a master's degree in International Economics and East Asian Studies in 1985. Geithner married his college girlfriend, Carole Marie Sonnenfeld, that same year at his parents' summer home in East Orleans, Massachusetts. She was working as a research associate for Common Cause, a public-affairs lobbying group in Washington, D.C., at the time. Geithner began work as a consultant for Kissinger and Associates in Washington, D.C., soon after.
Geithner worked as a consultant until 1988, when he joined the International Affairs division of the Treasury Department as an assistant financial attache for the U.S. Embassy in Tokyo. He held several jobs during his tenure at the Treasury, and was the first career civil servant to be appointed to the position of Under Secretary of International Affairs in 1998. In this post, he worked under Secretaries Robert Rubin and Lawrence Summers during President Clinton's administration. He was a principal adviser and member of the executive branch's senior team.
Geithner moved to the International Monetary Fund in 2001 as director of the Policy Development and Review Department. In this role, he approved the fund's financial programs and worked on its crisis management.
He assumed his position as the ninth president and chief executive officer of the New York Federal Reserve Bank on November 17th, 2003. He served as the vice chairman and permanent member of the Federal Open Market Committee, the group responsible for formulating the nation's monetary policy and determining the national interest rate.
In this post, he played a key role in responding to the financial crisis, working closely with Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and the chairman of the Federal Reserve, Ben Bernanke. Geithner was involved in many of the most pivotal financial decisions of 2008, including the rescue of one of the largest global investment banks
On November 25, 2008, he accepted president-elect Barack Obama's nomination to serve as the Secretary of the Treasury in his cabinet.
It is described as liberal by such news organizations as The Washington Post, The New York Times, Newsweek, TIME, and USA Today.[8][9][10][11][12] Common Cause regularly participates in the National Conference for Media Reform[13]
Common Cause focuses on five broad issues: campaign finance reform, election reform, ethics in government, government accountability, and the media. It also weighs in on health care, environmental, and defense topics.
It's laughable that you are trying to make him out to be some kind of conservative or neocon.
Turk is in error about Geithner though, he says Geithner was left over from Repubs when in fact Geithner was with Bill Clinton admin
Furthermore, the woman he married worked at Common Cause, which although was founded by a Republican, wikipedia has this to say about it
I said nothing of the sort! You made the explicit claim that he was not passed down from the Republicans, and that he was a product of the Democrats.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
And then there's Bill Maher's demaning behavior
Originally posted by nunyadammm
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
And then there's Bill Maher's demaning behavior
Bill Maher?
Who the # is Bill Maher that he fits in this conversation?
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
Originally posted by nunyadammm
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
And then there's Bill Maher's demaning behavior
Bill Maher?
Who the # is Bill Maher that he fits in this conversation?
I was just pointing out obvious examples of celebrities who make rude remarks and thus pointing out the hypocrisy.
Sorry you didn't make that connection and I had to explain it.
Originally posted by nunyadammm
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
And then there's Bill Maher's demaning behavior
Bill Maher?
Who the # is Bill Maher that he fits in this conversation?
Originally posted by nunyadammm
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
And then there's Bill Maher's demaning behavior
Bill Maher?
Who the # is Bill Maher that he fits in this conversation?