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Originally posted by CalebRight14
If he ever actually listed to what Ryan says, or looked at what he actually proposes, anyone in that guys age group would be entirely unaffected. The guy's anger is completely unjustified, he is misguided.
I wouldn't be surprised if the old man is an Obama plant and the whole incident was intentionally planned.
Originally posted by Indigo5
Originally posted by pointr97
The Rep's have always relied on the older community voters. Why would they go pissing them off now? Is he trying to loose?
They have eliminated "early voting" periods across the country.
The elderly aren't ones to go stand in line for an hour on Super Tuesday and many of them aren't physically capable to wait in line on a hot Florida afternoon.
In Florida...over HALF the voting populace votes in early voting.
Reducing early and absentee days. At least nine states introduced bills to reduce their early voting periods, and four tried to reduce absentee voting opportunities.
Florida, Georgia, Ohio, Tennessee, and West Virginia succeeded in enacting bills reducing early voting.
www.brennancenter.org...
My point?...the GOP is feeling confident that they have disenfranchised enough older voters where they can go ahead with tearing into Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid.
11. Imposes reductions in Medicare spending that, according to the program’s non-partisan actuary, would cause 40 percent of all Medicare providers to become unprofitable, and could lead to their exit from the program (Section 3401)
12. Raises premiums on more than 17 million seniors participating in Medicare Part D, so that Big Pharma can benefit from its “rock-solid deal“ struck behind closed doors with President Obama and Congressional Democrats (Section 3301)
14. Creates a multi-billion dollar “slush fund” doled out solely by federal bureaucrats, which has already been used to fund things like bike paths (Section 4002)
18. Precludes poor individuals from having a choice of health care plans by automatically dumping them in the Medicaid program (Section 1413(a))
23. Extends the Medicare “payroll tax” to unearned income for the first time ever, including new taxes on the sale of some homes (Section 1402)
25. Requires individuals to go to the doctor and get a prescription in order to spend their own Flexible Spending Account money on over-the-counter medicines (Section 9003)
27. Imposes a new tax on the makers of goods like pacemakers and hearing aids (Section 9009)
28. Creates an insurance reimbursement scheme that could result in the federal government obtaining Americans’ medical records (Section 1343)
45. Puts yet another Medicaid unfunded mandate on states, by raising payments to primary care physicians, but only for two years, forcing states to come up with another method of funding this unsustainable promise when federal funding expires (Section 1202)
"By that accounting," Stephanopoulos said, "your own budget, which Gov. Romney has endorsed, would also have $500 billion in Medicare cuts."
"Well our budget keeps that money for Medicare to extend its solvency," Ryan said. "What Obamacare does is it takes that money from Medicare to spend on Obamacare."
Stephanopoulos was confused: "Congressman, correct me if I am wrong: I thought your Medicare savings were put toward deficit reduction, debt reduction."
"Which extends the solvency of Medicare," Ryan said. "What they do in Obamacare, they try to count this dollar twice. They claim that this helps Medicare solvency and, at the same time, they spend this money on creating Obamacare.
"The trustee report for Medicare, they say the same thing," Ryan added. "You can't count these dollars twice. In our budget we make sure all of these dollars from Medicare savings go toward extending the solvency of Medicare and don't go toward spending new money on Obamacare."
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by CalebRight14
If he ever actually listed to what Ryan says, or looked at what he actually proposes, anyone in that guys age group would be entirely unaffected. The guy's anger is completely unjustified, he is misguided.
Really.
And you are how old?
Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
reply to post by Alxandro
I wouldn't be surprised if the old man is an Obama plant and the whole incident was intentionally planned.
Then how does that account for Ryan's joke - was he in on it to? Ryan stood there and watched this senior citizen get cuffed and dropped to the floor, just for asking a question. Then he cruelly joked about him, "I hope he took his blood-pressure medication, HA HA". That Obama must have worked some serious mojo on him to get Ryan to behave like a boor at his own rotary club meeting.
Originally posted by CalebRight14
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by CalebRight14
If he ever actually listed to what Ryan says, or looked at what he actually proposes, anyone in that guys age group would be entirely unaffected. The guy's anger is completely unjustified, he is misguided.
Really.
And you are how old?
And why exactly is that relevant? Either what I said is true, or it is not. If you wish to argue, then argue about what I said, my age has no bearing on the truth of my statement.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by CalebRight14
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by CalebRight14
If he ever actually listed to what Ryan says, or looked at what he actually proposes, anyone in that guys age group would be entirely unaffected. The guy's anger is completely unjustified, he is misguided.
Really.
And you are how old?
And why exactly is that relevant? Either what I said is true, or it is not. If you wish to argue, then argue about what I said, my age has no bearing on the truth of my statement.
True?
You spoke for the elderly. If you are not elderly - - then how can you justify speaking for them?
Originally posted by CalebRight14
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by CalebRight14
If he ever actually listed to what Ryan says, or looked at what he actually proposes, anyone in that guys age group would be entirely unaffected. The guy's anger is completely unjustified, he is misguided.
Really.
And you are how old?
And why exactly is that relevant? Either what I said is true, or it is not. If you wish to argue, then argue about what I said, my age has no bearing on the truth of my statement.edit on 13-8-2012 by CalebRight14 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by RoyBatty
Ignore her, CalebRight14. This is a completely typical response from her, always personal and consistently irrelevant.
Originally posted by CalebRight14
Did you even read what I wrote, I am not speaking for the elderly. The guy is misguided because he believes something that is not true.
Then you should be attacking both sides, and not just one.
I also fail to see where people are allowed in Socialist Countries to walk into private functions and spout off as well. That is where the Socialist ties come in play.
Aha see it's all Republican neocons to you.
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by CalebRight14
Did you even read what I wrote, I am not speaking for the elderly. The guy is misguided because he believes something that is not true.
Yes I did.
You are speaking directly for this man saying he is misguided in what he believes.
You don't know the full extent of what he believes or why he chose to act when and how he did.
I wouldn't be surprised if the old man is an Obama plant and the whole incident was intentionally planned.
Then how does that account for Ryan's joke - was he in on it to? Ryan stood there and watched this senior citizen get cuffed and dropped to the floor, just for asking a question. Then he cruelly joked about him, "I hope he took his blood-pressure medication, HA HA". That Obama must have worked some serious mojo on him to get Ryan to behave like a boor at his own rotary club meeting.
Originally posted by CalebRight14
Originally posted by Annee
Originally posted by CalebRight14
If he ever actually listed to what Ryan says, or looked at what he actually proposes, anyone in that guys age group would be entirely unaffected. The guy's anger is completely unjustified, he is misguided.
Really.
And you are how old?
And why exactly is that relevant? Either what I said is true, or it is not. If you wish to argue, then argue about what I said, my age has no bearing on the truth of my statement.edit on 13-8-2012 by CalebRight14 because: (no reason given)