Christians.....are one of the "witnesses" of Revelations posting on ATS right now?, page 1


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Topic started on 12-8-2012 @ 12:29 PM by sk0rpi0n
I came across this on a thread here a while ago.

A certain user "Helper 39" makes this claim...
I believe that I am one of the witnesses spoken of in Revelation.


www.abovetopsecret.com...

So what do you think?
Do Christians on ATS confirm this? or do they deny this?

According to your knowledge..... Is he one of the 2 witnesses.... or is he a false prophet?

Whatever you think...I would like to hear this from you.

Warm regards.

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reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 12:36 PM by Destinyone
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
I came across this a while ago.

I believe that I am one of the witnesses spoken of in Revelation.


The post was made by user "Helper 39" over here :
www.abovetopsecret.com...

So what do you think?
Do Christians on ATS confirm this? or do they deny this?

Is he one of the 2 witnesses.... or is he a false prophet? I would like to hear this from you.

Warm regards.




edit on 12-8-2012 by sk0rpi0n because: (no reason given)


Oh, IDK...here's a question for you, and anyone who would believe him. Why make this monumental announcement on ATS. Why not walk into the White House and drop this little bomb there. Or the Vatican.

Posting his diatribe on ATS, is no different, than a man on Times Square, in a sandwich board yelling, *the end is near*. It's just the internet version...

Des


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reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 12:40 PM by Itisnowagain
reply to post by sk0rpi0n



Are you not a witness to the creation that is being revealed presently?

If you are honest that is what you are. But humans don't see what is being revealed presently because they are lost in time. Only when you find yourself (as) here and now will the kingdom be revealed.
All is revealed in presence - as presence.
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reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 12:48 PM by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by Itisnowagain



Nice.

But my question was about something else.

I'd like to hear from christians if they believe this person is indeed one of the witnesses mentioned in the book of revelations.

Thank you.


reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 12:49 PM by Itisnowagain
reply to post by sk0rpi0n



If he knows himself - then he is.
Know thyself.

Know thyself to be the witness of all things.
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reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 12:53 PM by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by Itisnowagain




If he knows himself - then he is.


Do YOU believe he is one of the witnesses of revelations???

Its a simple question. Yes or No?

Please give me a straight answer.

Thank you.

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reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 12:55 PM by Klassified
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to
post by Itisnowagain



Nice.

But my question was about something else.

I'd like to hear from christians if they believe this person is indeed one of the witnesses mentioned in the book of revelations.

Thank you.


Benrl has already answered your question, and he's right on. He's also a believer. What more could you ask for?


reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 01:01 PM by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by Klassified



Benrl spoke for himself...and I appreciate his reply.
Unless he speaks for every christian.. then I think other chrisitans have a right to speak for themselves.


reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 01:08 PM by Itisnowagain
reply to post by sk0rpi0n



I am not trawling through a whole thread to find where he actually states that he was there, where ever whatever it was, was suposed to have happened.
All of that (what happened and might happen) is a story being witnessed presently being told presently. Creation is being created now and it is not a story.
Gods creation is being revealed now but man likes to tell stories and argue about stories.



reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 01:10 PM by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by Itisnowagain



So you believe he is one of the witnesses of Revelations.
Fine. I wont debate this.


reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 01:11 PM by Itisnowagain
reply to post by sk0rpi0n



You are the witness of the revelation.
In fact you are the revealing aspect that makes creation possible.
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reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 01:17 PM by seeker1963
reply to post by sk0rpi0n



Benrl spoke for himself...and I appreciate his reply.
Unless he speaks for every christian.. then I think other chrisitans have a right to speak for themselves.


Thus you are seeking opinions and not answers?


reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 01:23 PM by Klassified
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
reply to
post by Klassified



Benrl spoke for himself...and I appreciate his reply.
Unless he speaks for every christian.. then I think other chrisitans have a right to speak for themselves.

You are correct, of course, and I wasn't trying to be a thread killer. But his answer is about as good as it gets. Obviously, there are many trains of thought on this, as well as many interpretations. Having spent much of my life as a Christian, my opinion is this...

The person you are referencing is not one of the witnesses of Rev. 11. Just as the two witnesses never died, and were taken by God. It will be the same two that were taken, that shall be returned by God to the earth as his witnesses in the last days. Those two won't "believe" they are witnesses. They will know they are witnesses.

Just my two shillings.


reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 01:50 PM by bjarneorn
With a little research, this can easily be falsified ...

Witnesses of Revelation

There are many tribes, and you need two witnesses ... not one. Both of these witnesses are "nations", not individuals.


reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 01:59 PM by adjensen
Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
I came across this on a thread here a while ago.

A certain user "Helper 39" makes this claim...
I believe that I am one of the witnesses spoken of in Revelation.


www.abovetopsecret.com...

So what do you think?
Do Christians on ATS confirm this? or do they deny this?


Well, he's claiming that he believes he is one of the witnesses, and I see no reason to conclude that he believes otherwise.

I, on the other hand, do not believe that he is one of the two witnesses.

Should have proof of that shortly -- assuming that the blog in his signature is his (and it appears to be, same "I am one of the witnesses" claim in there,) he's claiming that there will be a disruption in the closing Olympic ceremony:

Staged UFO / Alien Invasion At The 2012 London Olympics Closing Ceremony On August 12 – 8/12

One can judge a prophet by the accuracy of his predictions, I suppose.
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