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Topic started on 12-8-2012 @ 10:12 AM by Signals

UN Designates "Free Syrian Army" Affiliates as Al Qaeda

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US, UK, Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and Turkey stand accused of state sponsorship of terrorism. UN failure to enforce own resolutions will resign their legitimacy, necessitate their expedient removal and replacement with multipolar system.

August 12, 2012 - The Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) currently arming, funding, and commanding entire brigades of the so-called "Free Syrian Army" (FSA), is designated an Al Qaeda affiliate by the United Nations pursuant to resolutions 1267 (1999) and 1989 (2011), in addition to being listed by both the US State Department and the UK Home Office (page 5,

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reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 10:12 AM by Signals

Well, here we go again...as if we weren't sure of it already.

LIFG = FSA

LIFG, who is now leading, arming, and funding (via Qatari, Saudi, Turkish, US, and British cash) entire brigades of the so-called "Free Syrian Army," is clearly listed as an integral part of Al Qaeda, with the UN noting several prominent LIFG terrorists occupying the highest echelons of Al Qaeda's command structure. These resolutions reflects other reports previously covered, including the US Army West Point Combating Terrorism Center report.

Terrorists are apparently "good" as long as they help us towards our goal.

The UN is a joke, and we need to just pull out of the M.E. all together, what a mess...

Here is their own resolution, read it-

www.un.org...

This means that the United States, the UK, NATO, and the Gulf State despots of Saudi Arabia and Qatar are knowingly and willfully funding, arming, and politically backing designated affiliates of Al Qaeda contrary not only to US and British anti-terror legislation, but contrary to numerous UN resolutions as well. Western and Gulf State support of the FSA constitutes state sponsorship of terrorism.

Who are the Terrorists

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reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 10:18 AM by Wrabbit2000

What am I missing? They just made it Official that Hillary Clinton and her boss have been aiding, supplying and support Al Qaeda. Directly or not....I don't care. The UN may be stupid, but in this case, they would seem to have put those two in a real bad spot. The articles have been very recent where it's stated we're supplying and helping these people.....and everyone just INSISTED those black flags weren't the flags of the Al Qaeda Jihadi fighters.

Well Well..... So now it's real clear. If we are against terrorism, our job is plain. We must SUPPORT Assad against Al Qaeda. Some days it's almost too crazy to believe it's real. I think their very best move after this declaration is to withdraw...with as much dignity as they can both muster.

Of course...that won't happen, and once again we are going to watch black become white and up turn into down. Watch..we'll be hearing why it's now imperative the U.S. help the FSA even MORE to throw off the evil influences our previous lack of support has allowed to move in.

Ummm..... Mommy! Make it Stop!

reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 10:19 AM by HamrHeed

WHAT DON'T YOU UNDERSTAND ? WE DON'T BELIEVE YOU AND NEVER WILL BECAUSE YOU'RE TRAITORS THROUGH AND THROUGH. Thanks for murdering people in our names under the guise of peace. FUBAR

EDIT: They giggle about how gaddafi was murdered and sodomized and tortured. Yes he was a fing moron but how many people need to die before this is over? WTF

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all i'm sayin is he should atleast have had his day in international court along with the victims.
this just makes me sick

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reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 10:21 AM by ollncasino

reply to post by Signals

It has been well known for a long time that the Syrian Free Army was jam packed with Al Qaeda and other assorted Islamic fundamentalists.

People watched the Arab Spring and saw secular regimes being replaced with fundamentalist Islamic regimes.

Yet, our rulers thought we were so stupid that we would believe the propaganda a second time.

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reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 10:56 AM by seeker1963

reply to post by Signals

So under rule of the NDAA, Hillary and all of her bosses should be arrested and detained without trial??? Woo Hoo!!!!

Wishful thinking, I know...............................

reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 11:06 AM by Signals

reply to post by seeker1963

Yep, up is down, down is up!

reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 11:30 AM by ChaoticOrder

reply to post by ollncasino

Yet, our rulers thought we were so stupid that we would believe the propaganda a second time.

We HAVE fallen for it a second time. In fact I bet if you went out onto the streets tomorrow, or a week from now, or a month from now, and started interviewing random people, 90% of them will tell you we are just "promoting democracy" and trying to dismantle an "evil dictatorship who murder and rape children" and that the "rebels are the good guys" and that "you would know all this if you watched the nightly news". That is what people will tell you, in a condescending tone as if they are intelligent informed people because they watch the MSM news and you're just an idiot conspiracy theorist spouting nonsense. This war in Syria will continue on just as it has been, and people will continue to naively support it, and our Governments will continue to send aid and funding to terrorist organizations to help them overthrow a Government for the second time within a year, and we will do absolutely nothing about it. Mark my words.

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reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 11:31 AM by DjangoPhat

reply to post by Signals

Good find.

But why is an UN source saying this?

I'm a bit confused.

edit, Ah I see, this info is from a few years back.

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reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 11:41 AM by DjangoPhat

reply to post by Signals

LIFG, who is now leading, arming, and funding (via Qatari, Saudi, Turkish, US, and British cash) entire brigades of the so-called "Free Syrian Army," is clearly listed as an integral part of Al Qaeda, with the UN noting several prominent LIFG terrorists occupying the highest echelons of Al Qaeda's command structure. These resolutions reflects other reports previously covered, including the US Army West Point Combating Terrorism Center report.

I couldn't find this qoute in your link, or did I look over it?

Nm, it was in your second link.

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reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 11:44 AM by all2human

If this is true then
Slam dunk!
and makes this conflict that much more illegal
no wonder Kofi Annan resigned,his peace plan didnt stand a chance.
let it be know the msm is the most powerfull weapon in the military Arsenol

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reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 12:23 PM by OtherSideOfTheCoin

I hate to be the one that points this out but…..

The UN has not designated the FSA as an associate of Al-Qa’ida this is just something a prominent conspiracy theorist has deduced. The United Nations has not declared the FSA as a associate of Al-Qa’ida the title of his blog is very misleading.

He is basing this on the idea that members of the LIFG are in Syria and are working with the FSA based on some flimsily but admissible evidence. I have not yet had a change to go through all of his references but from the ones I have seen it can tell he is being rather selective with the evidence and cherry picking.

I do plan on possibly writing a full debunk of this if time allows.

For now I just want to make it very clear that the UN has NOT decleared the FSA a associate of Al-Qa’ida.

reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 12:43 PM by SeekerofTruth101

reply to post by Signals

1. It is only common, HumanSlayers will do ANYTHING to screw with humankind's mind. This is no more than another attempt.

2. The so called 'UN SCC of 2001 covers an unknown group of few individuals affliated to Al Queda. So too does many nations on Earth, whom AQ, had hoped to fool the masses, but it ended by 2012 with the death of its figurehead bin laden. Only loose militants exists, unsupported and pariah dogs to every true muslim community on Earth except Iranian leaders who see them as tools to be used.

3. That small and ineffectual group was listed only in 2001. Even if they had 25 yrs old youths in that organisation, they would have to be old dogs to be running the libyan revolution against the beast Gaddafi in 2011. But the Libyan were ran mostly by the young.

4. And NOWHERE does it says this Libyan group is affliated with the FSA, except for the blogger? So, who is the liar and the liars here on ATS?

Have fun.;-)

summary became available on the Committee’s website: 23 August 2010

The Libyan Islamic Fighting Group was listed on 6 October 2001 pursuant to paragraph 8(c) of resolution 1333 (2000) as being associated with Al-Qaida, Usama bin Laden or the Taliban for “participating in the financing, planning, facilitating, preparing or perpetrating of acts or activities by, in conjunction with, under the name of, on behalf or in support of”, “supplying, selling or transferring arms and related materiel to” or “otherwise supporting acts or activities of” Al-Qaida (QE.A.4.01), Usama bin Laden (QI.B.8.01) and the Taliban.

Additional information:

The Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) is an Al-Qaida (QE.A.4.01) affiliate. It was created in 1995 by Libyans who had fought in Afghanistan and had plotted against the Government of Libya. LIFG participated with the Moroccan Islamic Combatant Group (QE.M.89.02) in planning the May 2003 bombings in Casablanca, Morocco, that killed over 40 people and injured more than 100. LIFG has also been linked to the 2004 attacks in Madrid, Spain.

In 2002, Al-Qaida leader Zayn al-Abidin Muhammad Hussein (QI.H.10.01), also known as Abu Zubaydah, was captured in Faisalabad, Pakistan, accompanied by at least three LIFG operatives and a fourth individual, the former head of the Sanabel Relief Agency Limited (QE.S.124.06) in Kabul, Afghanistan, who was also known to have ties to LIFG. LIFG commanders, including Abu Yahya al-Liby and the now-deceased Abu al-Laith al-Liby, have occupied prominent positions within Al-Qaida’s senior leadership.

On 3 November 2007, LIFG formally merged with Al-Qaida. The merger was announced via two video clips produced by Al-Qaida’s propaganda arm, Al-Sahab. The first clip featured Usama bin Laden’s (QI.B.8.01) deputy, Aiman Muhammed Rabi al-Zawahiri (QI.A.6.01), and the second featured Abu Laith al-Liby, who then served as a senior member of LIFG and a senior leader and trainer for Al-Qaida in Afghanistan.

LIFG is believed to have several hundred members or supporters, mostly in the Middle East and Europe. Since the late 1990s, many LIFG members have fled from Libya to various Asian, Arabian Gulf, African, and European countries, particularly the United Kingdom. It is likely that LIFG has maintained a presence in eastern Libya and has facilitated the transfer of foreign fighters to Iraq.

===end of report ======

reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 01:09 PM by vkey08

I thought it was bad form to rely on someone's blog as a source of news for the BAN forum. Or did I miss where they requirements that it be from a legit news source were lifted and relaxed?

reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 03:01 PM by OtherSideOfTheCoin

Something that I have noticed,

I recently created this thread about al-Assad’s breach of human rights; one of sources came from the UN. I can already see several members on this thread who attempted to discredit that by arguing that the UN (amongst my other sources) was a unreliable source because it was “Bias”. Some of you actually laughed and mocked me for it and made demand’s for yet more evidence.

Isn’t it then funny how your tunes all seem to change when the UN appears to be backing up one of your silly little conspiracy theories even when the UN quite clearly is not saying that the FSA are associated with Al-Qa’ida.

Way to go guys, nice to see you are able to keep consistent this just blatantly shows that some of you really do enjoy cherry picking at your sources and thrive on your own glutanty for ignorance. The message I will take away form this is that it is ok to use any source so long as it back’s up what you sheep (and that’s what you all are ironically enough) have all gone along with as the in fashion conspiracy.

Its ok to use the UN as a source when they are saying the FSA is associated with Al-Qa’ida (even if that’s now what they are saying). But according to some of you it’s NOT ok to use the UN when you’re trying to expose human rights abuses( which they are saying)

You all know who you are I won’t name and shame just yet but with the cruel things that some of you said to me based on my thread should be ashamed of yourselves, where is your dignity with this kind of inconsistency.

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reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 03:56 PM by DjangoPhat

reply to post by OtherSideOfTheCoin

Well, I have to say you are right about that, I don´t see the proof for a link to Syria either.

That said, this thread shows that what happened in Libia was completely shady.

What you said can be turned around, if you believe your own UN source you have to believe this one too.

As far as Syria goes, it is pretty clear it is the same MO. This thread doesn´t prove that though.

Btw cry me a river, boo hoo.

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reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 04:18 PM by Signals

reply to post by OtherSideOfTheCoin

Wow. Okay, first of all...stop saying I am cherry picking, my OP provides MULTIPLE sources, not just one. Although, the UN's own resolution is a very valuable source IMO.

I have successfully linked the FSA to the LIFG, which is a listed "terrorist" organization.

We are supporting the FSA...so, it all speaks for itself.

I do plan on possibly writing a full debunk of this if time allows.

Really? What is your agenda here, pal?

It may be time to walk away from this one....

BTW, whatever happened in your thread is off-topic and irrelevant.

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reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 04:20 PM by Signals

Originally posted by vkey08
I thought it was bad form to rely on someone's blog as a source of news for the BAN forum. Or did I miss where they requirements that it be from a legit news source were lifted and relaxed?

How many sources do you need?

Did you just suggest I should be banned?

reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 04:23 PM by DjangoPhat

reply to post by Signals

I´m sorry but I have to say I don´t see any proof for a link to FSA. That´s what that blog said, not the UN.

reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 04:30 PM by Signals

Originally posted by DjangoPhat
reply to post by Signals

I´m sorry but I have to say I don´t see any proof for a link to FSA. That´s what that blog said, not the UN.

“The Free Syrian Army ruined our lives,” reports BBC in their article, “Syria crisis: Iraqis flee ‘sectarian violence’ in Damascus.” Refugees returning to Iraq from Syria undulated a BBC reporter with accounts of why they’ve fled, citing sectarian violence perpetrated by the Western backed, armed, and funded so-called “Free Syrian Army” (FSA). Accounts reaffirm that indeed foreign fighters are amongst the FSA’s ranks, including Iraqi sectarian extremists serving as commanders.

Read this carefully...

Reports from Libya earlier this year confirmed that hundreds of Libyan fighters as well as NATO-supplied weapons and cash were pledged to the FSA by Al Qaeda’s Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) commander, Abdul Hakim Belhaj.

piazzadcara.wordpress.com...

The UN resolution does state LIFG to be "terrorists". The LIFG IS linked to FSA....

Please research this, I have provided many links so far on this thread.

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