Iran steps up nuclear warhead work, Israel media reports (Reuters)

Iran steps up nuclear warhead work, Israel media reports (Reuters)

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Iran has stepped up work to develop a nuclear warhead, Israeli newspapers said on Sunday, citing officials in Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's government and leaked U.S. intelligence.

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Citing an unnamed senior Israeli official, Haaretz said a new National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) compiled by the Obama administration included a "last-minute update" about significant Iranian progress in the development of a nuclear warhead "far beyond the scope known" to U.N. inspectors.

If you (Israel) are going to pull the whole world, or the U.S. at least, to an armed confrontation with a coutry like Iran, you should make a colossal effort into being serious about it, and not posting rumours or unbased stories in the media, in the hope that someone picks it up and believes it.

This is almost starting to look like a joke, or a childish discussion between two powers.

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reply to post by GarrusVasNormandy


Like Satan which invites again and again , US govt is repeating it lies again and again.

Even for years , they keep on repeating the same old lies.

If they had any real proof , hey would have attacked years ago.

I'm not too happy at the thought of a Islamic religious extremists possessing Nuclear weapons.

Its not too difficult to understand why Israel is not too keen on the idea.

How would you feel if you were in a room where every person had a gun but you.

Would you not want to procure a gun?

Now replace the gun variable with nuclear weapons.

I cant blame the guy for wanting to have some form of defense from the offensive war that America has been waging for over 10 years.

Originally posted by ollncasino
I'm not too happy at the thought of a Islamic religious extremists possessing Nuclear weapons.

Its not too difficult to understand why Israel is not too keen on the idea.

edit on 12-8-2012 by ollncasino because: (no reason given)

Me either.

I think too many nuts already have nukes what we don't need are more!

Green Light it. (the last part was a joke............i shouldn't have to say that but.......)

reply to post by Zaanny


Fine but if you reach for the gun and somebody shoots you then it's your own damn fault.

reply to post by ollncasino


Amazingly i wish they had them immediately, just so Israel will SHUTUP about it.

Maybe then we can get onto something else to bitch and whine about, and fear-monger and pray too our GODS about who is going to win.

Fact is, both sides are playing for the same team, and they STILL are STUPID enough to believe anything different.

From the article:

Washington has not commented on whether such an NIE exists. But its officials say the U.S. intelligence assessment remains that the Islamic republic is undecided on whether to build a bomb and is years away from any such nuclear capability.

If this is any indicator, it does not have sufficient information to show Iran has or even is developing nuclear weapons; therefore it indicates only that an attack on Iran is imminent. Syria must be approaching a conclusion.

May God help us all.

TheRedneck

reply to post by TheRedneck


That's exactly my point.

We constantly see these "scary" reports and threats in the media, but when the real officials talk it's nothing but wild guesses or worst case scenarios.

Iran achieving weapon grade enrichment and developing a nuclear warhead, is a worst case scenario, not a current, proven to be true, scenario...

That's what bothers me. If we are heading for a head-on colision with Iran, at least let it be for the right (if such thing exists) reasons. If they have a nuclear warhead, then show it. How are we supposed to accept that our governments can tell the color of our underwear by analyzing our private information online, and then they can't find out about a possible world threat?

Should we restrict our social decisions to rumours and news articles? If that is true, then we are actually opening the door for a lot of nasty thing's.

One thing is to shape the public opinion with facts and truths, but I don't enjoy seeing people picking sides over rumours and unbased truths.

reply to post by Zaanny


Although I do see your point, and could sympathize with the Iran view (if that is the case), I'm a pacifist at heart.

I have seen more good and social change made by being non-violent and opposing violence peacefully, than by reaching for a bigger stick.

That philosophy of "if you have a gun, and I have a gun, then we are both going to respect each-other" didn't work all that well during the Cold War.

People often forget the panic and constant fear/tension that sort of policy brings. It's not a good way to live, nor even a free way to live. You would be restricted to the freedoms your weapons provide. That is not freedom.

Israel, Israel, Israel boy do they complain! Since no body has done anything they have to start another rumor. I have to agree about the NOT having a gun when it comes to Isreal! I just got a FEELING they would start WW3 just for the fun of it and have USA caught in the middle, opps! All of us!

Unless there is some great plan going on, no one backs Isreal they still would do something! For a small bit of land they do cause alot of trouble. I feel for Iran, whats wrong with leave us alone! What does Iran have that people want?

I'll let your mind play with that one. It's not like you want people in YOUR backyard looking in YOUR windows making up stuff that is not there. It happens all the time its just getting worst. And yet most people actually believe it. I think if you start minding your own P&Q the world could be a much better place for ALL of US!

Originally posted by GarrusVasNormandy

Citing an unnamed senior Israeli official, Haaretz said a new National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) compiled by the Obama administration included a "last-minute update" about significant Iranian progress in the development of a nuclear warhead "far beyond the scope known" to U.N. inspectors.

If you (Israel) are going to pull the whole world, or the U.S. at least, to an armed confrontation with a coutry like Iran, you should make a colossal effort into being serious about it, and not posting rumours or unbased stories in the media, in the hope that someone picks it up and believes it.

This is almost starting to look like a joke, or a childish discussion between two powers.

www.reuters.com
(visit the link for the full news article)

Well the whole purpose of keeping said offical anonymous is for retaliatory purposes, like attempts at assasination and death threats. Would you want your family to have a package delivered to their doorstep that explodes when they open it? Well, neither would i. We don't know what info they have, but U.S. military intelligence is second to none. Our military intelligence tagged the people who were responsible for 9/11 as being a serious threat years before it happened but Bill Clinton was too busy getting knobbers from Monica to do anything about it.

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000

Originally posted by GarrusVasNormandy

U.S. military intelligence is second to none. Our military intelligence tagged the people who were responsible for 9/11 as being a serious threat years before it happened but Bill Clinton was too busy getting knobbers from Monica to do anything about it.

i respectfully disagree.....

not only is your statement regarding tagging said individuals false but to claim that U.S military intelligence is second to none is a blatant disregard for the truth that could only come from a person who is either delusional or patriotic to the point of absurdity.........

there are many intelligence units far superior to any U.S agency.....to say otherwise is nothing less than a lie......


cant seem to get my post out of quote box...apologies

edit on 12-8-2012 by Ph03n1x because: (no reason given)

reply to post by GarrusVasNormandy


to you, I totally agree with you 100%! No matter what the Israeli MSM is saying or their politicians, America's and Israel's intelligence agencies all report Iran has no nuke, isn't currently building a nuke, and doesn't plan on building a nuke anytime soon. But yet, here we are, again. Propaganda starting more BS wars again and again.

Originally posted by infoseeker26754
Israel, Israel, Israel boy do they complain! Since no body has done anything they have to start another rumor. I have to agree about the NOT having a gun when it comes to Isreal! I just got a FEELING they would start WW3 just for the fun of it and have USA caught in the middle, opps! All of us!

Unless there is some great plan going on, no one backs Isreal they still would do something! For a small bit of land they do cause alot of trouble. I feel for Iran, whats wrong with leave us alone! What does Iran have that people want?

I'll let your mind play with that one. It's not like you want people in YOUR backyard looking in YOUR windows making up stuff that is not there. It happens all the time its just getting worst. And yet most people actually believe it. I think if you start minding your own P&Q the world could be a much better place for ALL of US!

Isreal complain, and rightly so. People have been trying to wipe out the Jews for thousands of years, and now the vast majority of them are penned in on all sides. I think they've got a right to moan if a close nation is developing a weapon to take them out after vowing that they would.

This whole Gun analogy of Iran wanting a "gun" in a "gunfight" is stupid, in that yes, they don't have one, but they've been giving money to their friends to go get armed up and fire on a semi constant basis (I.E. Hezbollah firing rockets into Israel on a constant basis)

And most sheeple on here like to buy into this whole "Hey Iran doesn't attack anyone" rubbish.

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Conspiracy thought -

I am starting to wonder if something else is not going on. If Israel has confirmation of a nuke weapon they are not going to wait / debate. They will do what they are going to do and we go from there. They did it with Iraqs reactor as well as the somewhat recent attack on the Syrian facility.

I AM starting to wonder if these reports / comments coming out of Israel, as well as the security leaks from the Obama Administration regarding the Iranian issues, are directed at influencing our Presidential elections than dealing with Iran.

Obama pissed Israel off by going down the road of diplomacy with Iran. Obama, by going down the road of diplomacy, has faced criticism at home over that decision and its been used as a campaign issue for the coming elections. Factor in the comments Obama made at the summit where he was caught on the open mic dissing Israel's government, his push when it comes to the Gaza / West Bank areas for Israel to be more flexable. The view is Obama does not support Israel to the level the US is expected to. There is speculation that after the elections Obama would be in a better position if things go badly in Iran to take action. The same issues cropped up with Russia and our NMD system.

Enter conspiracy thought -
I am wondering if the leaks by the administration are coming from an individual working an agenda against Obama. So far the info we see places Obama into the position of looking completely lost and cluelees on Iran and by extension in over his head for foreign policy and military affairs.

Pile on Israel and their comments / actions it reinforces the above position while adding the foreign policy / military over his head from a government who has had long and close ties with the US..

We now have people in the US questioning Obama and his abilities and its being reinforced by a foreign government, which adds weight to the topic.

IF a military confrontation can be forced before the election Obama will be forced to defend his policy / position while possibly fighting a conflict with Iran all while trying to run for reelection. A scenario where I dont believe he would be able survive.

Getting Romney into office, and we all have seen / heard / read his comments about iran and their program and what his response would be to them, would fundamentally change the position of the US. A change that would also best serve Israeli.

anyways. no proof of any of the above.. thought I would share a possible theory.

Originally posted by ollncasino
I'm not too happy at the thought of a Islamic religious extremists possessing Nuclear weapons.

Its not too difficult to understand why Israel is not too keen on the idea.

Because Islam has such a history of invading other countries around the world?
/sarcasm
I am more worried about christians or jews wih a bomb, they are the ones doing the majority of killing and crusading.
All of this anti Iran propaganda, I wish the US would stop funding the terrorist regime of israel and allow them to stand up and fight their own battles.
War is not popular anymore and people for the most part know where warmongering terrorists come from.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000

We don't know what info they have, but U.S. military intelligence is second to none. Our military intelligence tagged the people who were responsible for 9/11 as being a serious threat years before it happened but Bill Clinton was too busy getting knobbers from Monica to do anything about it.

Military intelligence...oxymoron, this was always funny because the true jokes are always the funniest.
The same intelligence that found.. or didn't find WMD's?
There are many more, too many to list here.
Most people hated BillyC because he was dismantling the military.
Maybe he knew something we didn't.

reply to post by nostromo85

People have been trying to wipe out the Jews for thousands of years,

Funny as they still exist, but I undestand why.
They are in every country, in order to "wipe them out" you would have to kill the world.
Why do you suppose has the world always tried to kill them since the dawn of time anyway?
Has the whole world always been prejudice maybe?
Maybe you could look abit deeper.

However, this topic is not about the jews, it is about israeli terrorist propaganda and how they are trying to make Iran next on the block.