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US Attorneys Refuse to Assure Judge That They Are Not Already Detaining Citizens Under NDAA

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posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 06:33 PM
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Understood. Then one solution might be to somehow start a public fund to help offset the tremendous cost for being a whistleblower. That ought to be paid for by... by... who? Certainly not the whistleblower when they are doing the country a service. Maybe a law that requires attorneys to have to defend these cases pro bono (free) on a rotating basis, if they are going to work for government at all. If they are going to suck from the government tetas, then they should also help to keep the government free from fleas by supporting whistleblowers.




posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 06:37 PM
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So much for the "rule of law" and with it "the Republic"....first comes "chaos" then comes "order" (and with it my and your liberties).



posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 08:16 PM
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Originally posted by TrueAmerican
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Understood. Then one solution might be to somehow start a public fund to help offset the tremendous cost for being a whistleblower. That ought to be paid for by... by... who? Certainly not the whistleblower when they are doing the country a service. Maybe a law that requires attorneys to have to defend these cases pro bono (free) on a rotating basis, if they are going to work for government at all. If they are going to suck from the government tetas, then they should also help to keep the government free from fleas by supporting whistleblowers.


Why not pay them from the budgets of the agencies they blow the whistle on?



posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 09:48 PM
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They already executed a US Citizen albeit a "terrorist recruiter". If they have no problem executing a US citizen abroad; you can probably guess they already have some people "indefinitely detained". This is all Illegal both for domestic and international law...



posted on Aug, 12 2012 @ 10:37 PM
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An interesting thought. A mass detainment of people could be explained away as a pre-trib rapture. Throw in a false anti-Christ and you would have a lot of confused Christians who may be deceived into following the real anti-christ.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 12:58 AM
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What I would love to know is this:- Where is the "well regulated Militia" that Americans refer to in the 2nd Amendment that is used to justify their reasons for owning guns?? Whenever we have a gun debate on here, we hear about how the 2nd Amendment is in place in order to keep the Government from abusing its power.

Well, from what I can see here, the US Government is abusing its power right now. Where is the Freedom loving American citizens rising up against a tyrannical Government power???



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 05:46 AM
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Originally posted by benrl
Almost like they want to push us in a corner to get a reaction out of us.


They do want a reaction....
Ordo ab chao is the name of their game...

There will be no "gun grab"....fear has been instilled so more will buy weapons.
They want us to tear each other to shreds when the shtf (by design) so they don't have to do the "dirty work".

After that....total control, begged for by those who fear....the clampdown will be sponsored by all those who fear and refuse to ask questions about what is going on in the world around them..



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 05:51 AM
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It only took 200 years but you have finally become what the founders fought against.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 07:18 AM
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It's good our government did that, real good.

Think happy thoughts! Or your government may put you in the corn field.

www.youtube.com...



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by Forgoten_Whisper
but how can I get people to see who don't want to

I've been through this a few times.

We're numb, but at least we're awake.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by Jakal26
There will be no "gun grab"....fear has been instilled so more will buy weapons.
They want us to tear each other to shreds when the shtf (by design) so they don't have to do the "dirty work".

Isn't this what the NBC show "Revolution" advocates? Doesn't it imply that without TPTB, we will destroy each other? Revolution is advertized as a means to keep the elite in power. It is ironically fought by survivalists. Oh, how very clever. Looks like we better keep up the status quo if we know what's good for us.
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posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
Its all over. America was not invaded by the Chinese or Russians, but rather hijacked by Zionists, corporations, bankers who ran the country into the ground.


The US lasted longer because of capitalism they could churn the money for more while in the old Soviet Republic there was opportunity for churning so they bled it dry!

In the end they will run out of other peoples money too....



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 04:01 PM
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Your cred would rise considerably if you would leave George W. Bush out of this.

It's a lie and also totally unnecessary to try to show neutrality in this context.

Bush was never afraid of progressive liberals.

Obama, OTOH, can't wait to suspend the Constitution....and the election....and he actually WANTS a reason.

Grow up, please.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 04:36 PM
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Here's one of my news sources I watch...they have a detailed talk about this...their not happy either!!!


www.youtube.com...

I think I just seen a post concerning bush and the part that he didn't ...didn't...didnt play in this???
Bush is very much a part of this...he started the ball rolling faster for the plans of the nwo..or the plans of his friends...

Bush very much equals Obama...MIT equals bush equals Obama....they are all the same people!! ImHo...

They killed Kennedy when he tried to warn us...we didn't listen then either!
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posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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Ridiculous! They will continue to act in such a fashion until they are MADE to stop. Politicians are the most two faced, power hungry me me me people on the planet.

Congress needs term limits, and we need people in Congress that will actually check the executive branch. There should have been impeachment proceedings started a long time ago, would he be convicted in the Senate, no, but it would send a message.
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posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 08:43 PM
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The President can authorize Murder of American citizens, throw anyone in jail for as long as he wants without charge...this sure sounds like a dictatorship to me.



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 12:50 AM
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I think you have read what I have said all wrong...I didn't say we "need" the powers that be to keep us safe from killing each other. I simply said that they PLAN for this to happen. It really has nothing to do with the powers that be. It will be the food shortages, the lack of fuel, the lack of health care....etc etc that will cause people to do this and this is all by design...

I am just as against tptb as anyone else. I LOATHE the current power structure.
That simple post in no way encompasses my views on this subject.

I was not supporting anything when I said that, simply stating the facts.
All it takes is a look at what people in this country do when a new pair of Nike's comes out (or whatever it may be that they desire en masse) when they RIP THE DOOR OFF A MALL to get them, when people trample each other, sometimes to death,just for a black Friday sale so they can save a few buck on a new T.V......Just imagine those people without food and fuel (especially in the cold winter or very hot summer months) and other "necessities".....

Those same people, they have no survival skills and couldn't hunt, trap, garden, preserve if they had to....
You don't think they would rip those who have a bit of food stockpiled and a bit of fuel put back, to shreds?

If that is the case, you are delusional.....plain and simple



posted on Aug, 15 2012 @ 12:55 AM
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What I find troubling is that when something like this is posted, sure there are a few responses...but mostly, crickets. Yet we sit and discuss various conspiracies (some with some truth to them, others outlandish and sometimes laughable) and claim to be a step ahead of "the herd" in knowing and seeing these things coming down the pipe....Many claim to be "awake and aware" yet when the real deal conspiracy stuff is right in their faces...like I said, crickets (for the most part)

THAT is the most frightening part....THAT is tragic...and THAT is the reason we are in this position now!

Whether out of fear or cognitive dissonance....this "see no evil, hear no evil, IS no evil" mentality that many have is stifling....it is truly a sad state of affairs and in the end I suppose we will get what we deserve because of it. It is just sad that so many innocent children (and people who did try) will suffer when what is "coming down the pipe" finally reaches critical mass.



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by tracehd1
Here's one of my news sources I watch...they have a detailed talk about this...their not happy either!!!
www.youtube.com...


Thanks for posting that update to this story. That is an important video. Did you see where she said that they have now added the words "perpetual detention"? As if "indefinite detention" weren't already bad enough? And that even war correspondents (journalists) could be indefinitely detained? Or that if you were even anywhere near, just walking by any of these nifty CIAorrist groups they could nab you too? I mean wtf!

Here it is embedded:


Man!

Here is also a Reality Check video covering it, posted by mike dangerously over in his ATS thread on the issue:



posted on Aug, 16 2012 @ 11:55 PM
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Originally posted by Jakal26
What I find troubling is that when something like this is posted, sure there are a few responses...but mostly, crickets. Yet we sit and discuss various conspiracies (some with some truth to them, others outlandish and sometimes laughable) and claim to be a step ahead of "the herd" in knowing and seeing these things coming down the pipe.


Well said. Star for you, I couldn't have expressed it better myself. This should be well above the top topics here right now, but we have 2 Pages?
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