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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
What you seem to fail to grasp Autowrench, and it's because you never had a salvation experience, is that we do know. He makes these things known to us, all we have to do is ask him. He came before everything else. All those pagan religions came from two people, Nimrod (Ninus) and his mother/wife Semiramis who set themselves up as gods millenia ago. I've done plenty of research, i went to college to be an anthropologist emphasis in archeaology. There is actually alot of scientific proof the bible is true and a historically accurate text. Even in those pagan legends there was always one nugget of truth, that there was always one ruler of Heaven and all creation. Every pagan religion has the same consistent story of a King of the gods, one ruler Greater than the lessers. Even with their twisted tales and sordid stories they couldn't squash the fact of a supreme deity because he wouldn't allow it. There's always a grain of truth in every myth, and that's it. He IS.
Originally posted by MagnumOpus
How will you deal with the Enoch story, which was found in the Caves out in the Judean desert. Did they screw up the pontifications on god? Or did you just fall down and pass into insignificance, and have need to give up your Avitar.
Originally posted by The GUT
The fallen angels played havoc all over the world. They love worship and bloodshed. They leave tracks wherever they go.
Your story has no sensible ending, or even meaning, fortunately the True story does. You are extremely verbose and fall in and out of coherency but as Ancient ancestor once say, "Words cannot cook rice." You must be very hungry by now.
you must have Christianity confused with Islam?
Originally posted by MagnumOpus
One thing that one notices is the Christian Faith feeds off their self promotions of being the only ones connected with god
so who doesn't want to live forever?
One notices this salvation story is all about this process to promise some presents from Santa, when the real story is to disconnect men from being men and making them into sheep that wring their hands and run down to the churches to prey. All that does is empower the chuches to lord over sheep, as they are no longer men.
Originally posted by The GUT
At least you recognize the Fallen Angels, but then you turn around and believe them. Not only that, but you call them "gods" on one hand and portray them as aliens the next.
I think the clearest thing about these beings and Jesus is that there is a spiritual component involved. Some of the best evidence for that comes from a point you mention: Jesus was indeed familiar, it seems, with the Book of Enoch.
In the Holy Bible we see one of the longest off-the-cuff shots in history: The prophecy that the harassed and scattered Jewish peoples would reclaim their land and become a nation again.
In 1947-48 a lot of what can only be called very supernaturally inspired events happen. It was a very fascinating year but for the purposes of this discussion we'll only look at two.
The first, already mentioned, being the Jewish State and the next being the finding of fragments of the Book of Enoch which validated its own historicity.
Originally posted by SisyphusRide
you must have Christianity confused with Islam?
Originally posted by MagnumOpus
One thing that one notices is the Christian Faith feeds off their self promotions of being the only ones connected with god
so who doesn't want to live forever?
One notices this salvation story is all about this process to promise some presents from Santa, when the real story is to disconnect men from being men and making them into sheep that wring their hands and run down to the churches to prey. All that does is empower the chuches to lord over sheep, as they are no longer men.
what makes a man... ripping eachother apart with our bare hands with no system for civility?
umkay... yeah I seen zitgeist too
Originally posted by MagnumOpus
Islam worships what appears to be the Big G or GOD. Jewish and Christians worship variants of the little g or the faked gods of Anu.
oracc.museum.upenn.edu...
An/Anu is sometimes credited with the creation of the universe itself, either alone or with Enlil and Ea. Of the three levels of heaven, he inhabited the highest, said to be made of the reddish luludānitu stone (Horowitz 2001: 8-11).
Originally posted by MagnumOpus
U Penn's has the largest Sumerian Antiquities collections and the best scholarship on the gods of Anu themes, and they speak to a good deal of the type associations that Sitchen makes, and that the Book of Enoch makes, and that the archiological records support.
www.allthingsfulfilled.com...
144000 in Heaven in Revelation, Who Are They?
www.bible-prophecy.net...
"Behold a certain great image! That image stood before you with a brilliant brightness; and its form was dreadful. The head of this image was of fine gold; its breasts and its arms were of silver, its belly and its thighs of bronze; its legs of iron, its feet were partly of iron and partly of clay" (Dan.2:31-33 Para.).
Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by MagnumOpus
Boy are you wrong.
You have not read Revelations , thats for sure . You are misled , misinformed and 100% wrong . Revelations chapter 7 says 144,000 virgin Jewish men sealed with the seal of God will be put on earth during the pouring out of the wrath . Chapter 7 verse 9 speaks of a multitude that no man can number with white robes before the throne of God .
Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by MagnumOpus
I'm pretty sure everybody that has ever read the bible and those that checked out my comment can see that you have not verified your assertion . You persist to be wrong ! Take a minute and re read it ! Chapter 7 of Revelations states the 144,000 is VIRGIN JEWISH MEN with no guile in their mouth and they will preach the Gospel on earth during the Wrath portion of the Tribulation . It's in black and white .
Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by MagnumOpus
I'm pretty sure everybody that has ever read the bible and those that checked out my comment can see that you have not verified your assertion . You persist to be wrong ! Take a minute and re read it ! Chapter 7 of Revelations states the 144,000 is VIRGIN JEWISH MEN with no guile in their mouth and they will preach the Gospel on earth during the Wrath portion of the Tribulation . It's in black and white .
4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel.
5 Of the tribe of Juda were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Reuben were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Gad were sealed twelve thousand.
6 Of the tribe of Aser were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Nephthalim were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Manasses were sealed twelve thousand.
7 Of the tribe of Simeon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Levi were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Issachar were sealed twelve thousand.
8 Of the tribe of Zabulon were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Joseph were sealed twelve thousand. Of the tribe of Benjamin were sealed twelve thousand.
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;
10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.
11 And all the angels stood round about the throne, and about the elders and the four beasts, and fell before the throne on their faces, and worshipped God,
12 Saying, Amen: Blessing, and glory, and wisdom, and thanksgiving, and honour, and power, and might, be unto our God for ever and ever. Amen.
13 And one of the elders answered, saying unto me, What are these which are arrayed in white robes? and whence came they?
14 And I said unto him, Sir, thou knowest. And he said to me, These are they which came out of great tribulation, and have washed their robes, and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
15 Therefore are they before the throne of God, and serve him day and night in his temple: and he that sitteth on the throne shall dwell among them.
16 They shall hunger no more, neither thirst any more; neither shall the sun light on them, nor any heat.
17 For the Lamb which is in the midst of the throne shall feed them, and shall lead them unto living fountains of waters: and God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes.
Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by MagnumOpus
The King James bible is what I am quoting .