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Originally posted by WhisperingWinds
Originally posted by wildtimes
reply to post by WhisperingWinds
I won't bother responding to her false accusations
Erm, please don't talk about me while I'm right here....
and...
what "false accusations"?
Also, the Q stands: Why have you decided I'm an enemy?
The false accusation that I contradicted myself, because I said the same thing 3 times, I believe, just in different ways. You seem to think that if folks are celebrating Christmas and buying gifts that they are promoting the whole fairy tale of santa and his reindeer which is simply not true.
I will not answer your question because it is another false accusation, as well as off topic.
Originally posted by MagnumOpus
You should read about the medical power of Myrrh sometime. Roman Soldiers would not go to battles without a huge stock of Myrrh to treat injuries.
Gladiators got run through with swords and spears, and Hippocrates never lost any he treated and the principle treatment was Myrrh.
Do I think it saved Jesus life, Absolutely. Which is why the story is told of Joseph and Nicodemus running around with a fortune in Myrrh to treat Jesus wounds.
The myrrh that the Magi gave to the baby Jesus foretold how he would suffer and die. The term myrrophore was applied to the women who bore spices to the sepulcher of Jesus—aloes, cassia and cinnamon. In Mesopotamia and the Greco-Roman worlds, myrrh was a panacea for almost every human affliction, from earaches to hemorrhoids. The Asians esteemed myrrh as an astringent tonic taken internally and as a cleansing agent applied externally.
www.herbcompanion.com...
In an attempt to determine the cause of its effectiveness, researchers examined the individual ingredients of a herbal formula used traditionally by Kuwaiti diabetics to lower blood glucose. Myrrh and aloe gums effectively improved glucose tolerance in both normal and diabetic rats.
Myrrh was shown to produce analgesic effects on mice which were subjected to pain. Researchers at the University of Florence showed that furanoeudesma-1,3-diene and another terpene in the myrrh affect opioid receptors in the mouse's brain which influence pain perception.
Mirazid, an Egyptian drug made from myrrh, has been investigated as an oral treatment of parasitic ailments, including fascioliasis and schistosomiasis.
Myrrh has been shown to lower cholesterol LDL (bad cholesterol) levels, as well as to increase the HDL (good cholesterol) in various tests on humans done in the past few decades. One recent (2009) documented laboratory test showed this same effect on albino rats.
en.wikipedia.org...
Originally posted by WhisperingWinds
reply to post by MagnumOpus
Myrrh stops internal bleeding, and external. All it took is a faint circulation.
scripture tells us he had no blood left to circulate.
When his side was pierced , He shed the last of his blood followed by water.
He literally shed ALL of His blood for the redemption of mankind..according to the bible.
Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by MagnumOpus
Well I guess the Trama centers ned to talk to you . Those Idiots don't know anything about your miracle herb .
Then you say conjecture do you . I call your explanation of Jesus saying that he still bares the sins of the world both past and future to mean that he never died a stretch beyond any realistic interpretation , even for an athiest .
Then your half hearted stab at the most important point to disprove the Bible and prove your point mitigates against your very basis of understanding and dedication to the truth of the matter .
Two things... 1. That is speculation... and its almost impossible to shed every ounce of blood in the body 2. Do you believe the shoud of turin is real? IF you do... how do you explain the apparent "bleeding" on the shoud?
Originally posted by The GUT
Could God have myrrh as part of the miracle? I guess so. Have I found any scholarship that backs your claims about myrrh? Nope.
Originally posted by MagnumOpus
Originally posted by The GUT
Could God have myrrh as part of the miracle? I guess so. Have I found any scholarship that backs your claims about myrrh? Nope.
If you were a good researcher, one would find Myrrh was highly Prized by the gods of Anu. And it was likely one of the plant species they cultured.
Keep looking. I've seen it. But I know you have comprehinsion issues.
Originally posted by WhisperingWinds
Originally posted by MagnumOpus
Originally posted by The GUT
Could God have myrrh as part of the miracle? I guess so. Have I found any scholarship that backs your claims about myrrh? Nope.
If you were a good researcher, one would find Myrrh was highly Prized by the gods of Anu. And it was likely one of the plant species they cultured.
Keep looking. I've seen it. But I know you have comprehinsion issues.
Hes not refuting that Myrrh was highly prized and useful..
He is saying that it could not save a persons life after suffering beatings and a death by crucifixion .
(all those on the crosses that day had to die)
I just refuse to go into a long soliloquy on what and who I think God is, and why because it is a personal journey for everyone. All I ever encourage anyone to do is to see SINCERELY seek the truth to be revealed to them in a humble and openhearted way , and the rest is up to God.
Why would I want to talk about God when He can do the talking for Himself.
Originally posted by WhisperingWinds
Originally posted by MagnumOpus
Originally posted by The GUT
Could God have myrrh as part of the miracle? I guess so. Have I found any scholarship that backs your claims about myrrh? Nope.
If you were a good researcher, one would find Myrrh was highly Prized by the gods of Anu. And it was likely one of the plant species they cultured.
Keep looking. I've seen it. But I know you have comprehinsion issues.
Hes not refuting that Myrrh was highly prized and useful..
He is saying that it could not save a persons life after suffering beatings and a death by crucifixion .
(all those on the crosses that day had to die)
Nothing in the bible violates the laws of nature
Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by MagnumOpus
The only relationship that Jesus might share with the mythical creation of Santa is that Jesus has made the sacrifice for your sins and offers you a gift of Grace and Mercy . This plan of Gods is law . Like a judge whose rulings can not be overturned . You don't like his decision and your helpless to do anything about it . But Jesus is your advocate and your only advocate . Don't piss him off ! As far as childish adults hiding behind Jesus like a youngster behind mom or a soldier behind cover in a gun battle , what idiot stands up and takes the blast square in the snout .
Now you might want to take a real look at the lack of a substantiated explanation of the beginning of life on this rock or for that matter anywhere . Then how could it ever make it here alive . Abiogenesis is not acceptable either for the obvious reasons RNA and DNA is way to complex to randomly occur even with all those billions of years Carl Sagan liked to BS people with .
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by MagnumOpus
Nothing in the bible violates the laws of nature
Killing women and children doesn't violate the laws of nature?
hmm..
I have issues with that
Originally posted by MagnumOpus
Originally posted by Akragon
reply to post by MagnumOpus
Nothing in the bible violates the laws of nature
Killing women and children doesn't violate the laws of nature?
hmm..
I have issues with that
Nature tells humans can be killed. Nature isn't about moral issues.
Religions kill---just look at Iraq---Iran---etc. The warning of Revelations on the corrupt political church kills. That points at you.
Originally posted by MagnumOpus
Let me put it to you this way. Lazarus didn't die, and Myrrh revived him from severe Leperocy.
Jesus didn't die, got close, and Myrrh brought him back from the brink of death.
Your arrogance is an extreme bother and your fairy tales of religion all nonsense. If a person is clinically dead, nothing brings them back.
You violate the laws of natuire with absolute impugnity. Nothing in the bible violates the laws of nature, only your extreme and untrue beliefs in fairy tales tell crazy stories that are not true.
The Sin that got Jesus on the Cross was the Pharisee didn't understand his speaking about Enki, and his blood linked linage from him and that Jesus knew the story of the gods so well that he was almost as one of them as was Enoch and Elijah.
The same problem exists today with you and the Christian arrogance that models the Pharisee that nailed Jesus to the cross.
Utter non-sense with your extreme arrogance.
The amount of bashing of christians on the internet is frightening and the blantant arrogance and ignorance is unreal.