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A simple explanation of why Buddhism is correct.

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posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 04:41 AM
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If you know God - he is merciful.
If you don't know God life is cruel.




posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 04:44 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
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The suffering is caused by believing thoughts. And by believing that you are doing those thoughts.
All you need saving from is delusional thinking.
The person cannot be liberated, to be liberated one must realize that one is not the person.

The title of this thread is Buddhism but the content is Christianity.
edit on 13-8-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)


Yea... We tried to keep it away from a Jesus debate... People get so passionate about it, though.

The main point we need to understand and come to terms with is that God (any God) can be both good and evil. That's what makes up the perfect quality of the God.

Second, you can be a Christian Buddhist, Muslim Buddhist, Jewish Buddhist, etc.

Let's try to redirect towards that.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 04:47 AM
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"The main point we need to understand and come to terms with is that God (any God) can be both good and evil. That's what makes up the perfect quality of the God."

God is none of those things (good/evil).
God is not a 'thing'.
God is nothing and what is seen is apparently something.
God is the seer of what is seen.

Are you the seer or the seen?

The seen is just a movie (Leela, the play).
The seer is the audience.

youtu.be...


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posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 04:47 AM
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Forgive me if I'm wrong. But for arguments sake. Haven't they proven that particles can and do exist in multiple places at the same time? Photon particles for instance? I'm pretty sure they have


Just something haunted my mind. there is a statement that God has created everything. and especially light !
what is light. photons that you mentioned are description of humanity of what he is weak to perceive. because light has odd behaviors. light has both behaviors like matter and energy. and description of human of this odd behavior is nothing but photons. these photones are buckets of energy. still I am not sure that this hypothesis is proven or not. maybe this is a sign or miracle from the first creator that God has created everything. energy, matter and even those that we do not know now !



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 04:49 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
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"The main point we need to understand and come to terms with is that God (any God) can be both good and evil. That's what makes up the perfect quality of the God."

God is none of those things (good/evil).
God is not a 'thing'.
God is nothing and what is seen is apparently something.
God is the seer of what is seen.

Are you the seer or the seen?



Both seer and seen.
God is both seer and seen.
God is both good and evil, because God is everything.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 04:50 AM
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I never said this. Where did I post this?


excuse me. thinking about God is confusing. and I got confused.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 04:51 AM
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Originally posted by mkmasn

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
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"The main point we need to understand and come to terms with is that God (any God) can be both good and evil. That's what makes up the perfect quality of the God."

God is none of those things (good/evil).
God is not a 'thing'.
God is nothing and what is seen is apparently something.
God is the seer of what is seen.

Are you the seer or the seen?



Both seer and seen.
God is both seer and seen.
God is both good and evil, because God is everything.


The seen cannot be without the seer. Only the seeing is true.
The act of seeing is neither good nor evil.
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posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 04:54 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by mkmasn

Originally posted by Itisnowagain
reply to post by mkmasn
 


"The main point we need to understand and come to terms with is that God (any God) can be both good and evil. That's what makes up the perfect quality of the God."

God is none of those things (good/evil).
God is not a 'thing'.
God is nothing and what is seen is apparently something.
God is the seer of what is seen.

Are you the seer or the seen?



Both seer and seen.
God is both seer and seen.
God is both good and evil, because God is everything.


The seen cannot be without the seer. Only the seeing is true.
The act of seeing is neither good nor evil.
edit on 13-8-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)


Both must be in order to maintain balance. You cannot see what there is nothing to see. They are completely dependent on each other.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 04:56 AM
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You see a 'thing' and then the 'thing' is replaced by another 'thing'. 'Things' come and go but the seer does not, the seer is contant and unchanging.
The seer is reality because it always is.

When there is nothing to see, the seer is still present. In deep sleep you still are but you just don't know you are because there is nothing appearing.
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posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 05:02 AM
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The seer is ever changing. Every sight seen changes the seer, through memory, experience, thoughts or understanding.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 05:05 AM
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Originally posted by mkmasn
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The seer is ever changing. Every sight seen changes the seer, through memory, experience, thoughts or understanding.


No the seer never changes. Find the unchangable and you will find God.
Is the sky changed by the passing clouds?

Memory, experience, thoughts or understanding are all seen by the seer.

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posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 05:11 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by mkmasn
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The seer is ever changing. Every sight seen changes the seer, through memory, experience, thoughts or understanding.


No the seer never changes. Find the unchangable and you will find God.
Is the sky changed by the passing clouds?

Memory, experience, thoughts or understanding are all seen by the seer.

edit on 13-8-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)


Memories, experiences, thoughts and understanding are what make the seer exist. Without these, there is nothing. A man gets into a car accident and loses his memory. To him, he is no longer the man he was. To him, that is all that matters.

A child begins without these. The child can only grow through obtaining these.

As the cloud passes, interactions with the makeup of the sky does cause the sky to change.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 05:16 AM
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Originally posted by mkmasn

Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by mkmasn
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The seer is ever changing. Every sight seen changes the seer, through memory, experience, thoughts or understanding.


No the seer never changes. Find the unchangable and you will find God.
Is the sky changed by the passing clouds?

Memory, experience, thoughts or understanding are all seen by the seer.

edit on 13-8-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)




Memories, experiences, thoughts and understanding are what make the seer exist. Without these, there is nothing. A man gets into a car accident and loses his memory. To him, he is no longer the man he was. To him, that is all that matters.

A child begins without these. The child can only grow through obtaining these.

As the cloud passes, interactions with the makeup of the sky does cause the sky to change.


If you 'think' you are made of your memories then you do not 'know' what you really are.
The man who lost his memory, all he has lost is his 'false identity', he lost the person he 'thinks' he is.
Are you a thought? Are you an idea? Or are you what sees and knows ideas?

Thoughts (and 'things') are like the clouds but the seer is the sky. The clouds pass but the sky never moves.
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posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 05:19 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by mkmasn

Originally posted by Itisnowagain

Originally posted by mkmasn
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The seer is ever changing. Every sight seen changes the seer, through memory, experience, thoughts or understanding.


No the seer never changes. Find the unchangable and you will find God.
Is the sky changed by the passing clouds?

Memory, experience, thoughts or understanding are all seen by the seer.

edit on 13-8-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)




Memories, experiences, thoughts and understanding are what make the seer exist. Without these, there is nothing. A man gets into a car accident and loses his memory. To him, he is no longer the man he was. To him, that is all that matters.

A child begins without these. The child can only grow through obtaining these.

As the cloud passes, interactions with the makeup of the sky does cause the sky to change.


If you 'think' you are made of your memories then you do not know what you really are.
The man who lost his memory, all he has was lost his 'false identity', he lost the person he 'thinks' he is.
Are you a thought? Are you an idea? Or are you what sees and knows ideas?

edit on 13-8-2012 by Itisnowagain because: (no reason given)


We are all projections of our thoughts. Do you think you are awake?



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 05:21 AM
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I am seeing and hearing and knowing what is presented.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 05:23 AM
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"Do you think you are awake? "
Apposed to being asleep?

Being is being whether it is being awake or being asleep.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 05:24 AM
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Originally posted by Itisnowagain
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"Do you think you are awake? "
Apposed to being asleep?

Being is being whether it is being awake or being asleep.




And yet your experiences in both states are vastly different.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 05:25 AM
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Being is being!!
Asleep is just an idea, is it not? Asleep can only be spoken of in wakefulness.

To be or not to be? That is the question.
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posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 05:31 AM
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Unless you were asleep dreaming of being awake speaking of it.


You cannot shed a thought until you thought it. You cannot clear an empty mind.

Isn't that why Siddhartha took his journey? He could not understand suffering until he experienced suffering.

You cannot be until you understand being.



posted on Aug, 13 2012 @ 05:41 AM
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Originally posted by mkmasn
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Unless you were asleep dreaming of being awake speaking of it.


You cannot shed a thought until you thought it. You cannot clear an empty mind.

Isn't that why Siddhartha took his journey? He could not understand suffering until he experienced suffering.

You cannot be until you understand being.


Even in sleep dreaming - you are still being. You are the dreamer dreaming the dream.
Being does not have to be understood. Being cannot be understood, understanding is what the mind tries to do and because it cannot be understood it causes confusion.

Being is just being this. If you are trying to be (becoming) you have missed the mark.

It is not you that is putting thought there (you are not thinking). You are aware of thought arising.



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