Screw 300 million years old! Who built it?

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posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:17 PM
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Screw 300 million years old! Who built it?


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In the summer of 1998, Russian scientists who were investigating an area 300 km southwest of Moscow on the remains of a meteorite, discovered a piece of rock which enclosed an iron screw. Geologists estimate that the age of the rock is 300-320 million years.

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posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:17 PM
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Hey there, not sure if this has been shown before, but a screw found and estimated at 300 million years found on earth via a meteorite, hmm this obviously suggest intelligence not of this world.

I have noticed a pattern through major and non major news outlets and its seem's they are pushing the concept of alien intelligence as "fact". Myself, i am fully aware of my religious beliefs and i am also fully aware that out of the hundreds of billions of galaxies in the univers its stand to reason that there "is" another form of intelligence.

Statistically Speaking we cannot be the only intelligent life form throughout the universe, so it also stands to reason that intelligent life forms throughout the univers are not neccessarily friendly,

My personal view on a non terrestrial life form entering our is planet has been well posted throughout ats and it still stands. They do not come in peace, they have no concept of peace as you and i have been taught.

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posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:23 PM
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I love ooparts!

So far I am convinced they are the result of either

A) time travel

or

B) seriously flawed dating techniques...what if carbon 14 dating is totally bogus?



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:23 PM
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Perhaps the screw isn't embedded in anything. The 'rock' itself could have been a man-made object that became fossilised, and the screw was part of it.
Seriously flawed dating techniques is the most likely explanation, though. How many people have ever questioned the supposed infallibility of carbon dating?
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posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:28 PM
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Carbon dating is not solid fact, you do know this?



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:30 PM
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I have always believed that civilization has advanced at least once but probably several times in the past, then wiped out by some cataclysmic event.
If youve ever seen the show on the History channel, Life after people, it shows what happens to the hardiest of structures, even after a few hundred years.
Steel decays, returning to the earth where it was formed. What doesnt decay gets buried beneath water, earth and or vegetation.



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:31 PM
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I also agree with OP's title, "screw 300 million years old"...



Why do we trust carbon dating?



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by cerebralassassins


Hey there, not sure if this has been shown before, but a screw found and estimated at 300 million years found on earth via a meteorite, hmm this obviously suggest intelligence not of this world.


Yep those damn iron nuts, bolts and screws off spaceships million and millions of years advance to us just seem to never stay on....

Meteorites are billions of years old...not sure how they suggest a 300 million year old one, and it looks more like light colored calcium type buildup than a rock...just saying.

It's like the 100 million year old iron hammer head found in a rock that looks exactly like an 1800 hammer head, I think if we focus on anything it is the suggested age and type of the rock it was found in. Here we have once again a simple item made up of basic materials and we want to suggest it is something it is not.



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posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:38 PM
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I agree with you all as far as carbon dating being accurate, but how off can the scale be ?



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:39 PM
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That looks is a crinoid stem or it could also be a cephalopod, but my money is on crinoid.



Most likely an inside cast. Earlier this year almost the exact same article came out it is a joke of reporting.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

You also have to remember if it is metal it is not going to fossilize it will stay metal or deteriorate back into the earth.

Edit to add: you all would be amazed with the archimedes screw.



It was a form a byrozoan. the crinoid is related to your modern brittle stars.

Raist
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posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:40 PM
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Originally posted by Signals

B) seriously flawed dating techniques...what if carbon 14 dating is totally bogus?


You can't carbon date rock....the magic word is carbon as in the lack of....



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:41 PM
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Originally posted by Raist
That looks is a crinoid stem or it could also be a cephalopod, but my money is on crinoid.



Most likely an inside cast. Earlier this year almost the exact same article came out it is a joke of reporting.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

You also have to remember if it is metal it is not going to fossilize it will stay metal or deteriorate back into the earth.

Raist


That is a good point... is it actually a metal screw or just round ridges that are not screw like. It looks more like rings than a actual screw pattern.



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:43 PM
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Can someone help me here, although the translation is kinda sketchy but those have knowledge on the below quote might be able to shed some light...


Case of "error" was excluded because in addition, as shown by subsequent studies, the screw is there really a huge amount of time, since the iron atoms of the screw and the atoms of silicon (from which the rock consists mainly) have spread across the two ylika (silica) .Oi X-rays revealed that exist within the rock bolts and similar .. as well as two small round balls that have square holes.


Is someone able to explain this *Note, i placed the term (silica) as i google what was written and it showed this term as the appropriate explanation.



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:45 PM
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The hole that it is in is at a slightly different angle giving it the illusion of it being a screw. If the look at it on a level angle you can see it is parallel. This is nothing more than Russian propaganda as usual. This is a crinoid, no doubt in my mind.


Raist



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by Raist
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The hole that it is in is at a slightly different angle giving it the illusion of it being a screw. If the look at it on a level angle you can see it is parallel. This is nothing more than Russian propaganda as usual. This is a crinoid, no doubt in my mind.


Raist


Russian prop, for what possible reason ?



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:49 PM
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Rock x-rays are very unreliable. You need a very powerful x-ray to penetrate and then since the rock hold the same density throughout the x-rays are not accurate really. This would make a round, or star shaped hole (what the inside of a crinoid stem looks like seem square. This is also the reason they do not x-ray dinosaur eggs. They do cat scan them but with barely better results than the x-ray.

Raist



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:50 PM
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It looks more like a spring. Like on a clutch.



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 03:51 PM
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To get themselves in the news for finding something great.

Again they did this a few times this year. another story they said concreations were dinosaur eggs but the size was far to large for dinosaur eggs when the largest were no bigger than a basket ball.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Raist



posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 04:03 PM
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I see your point, however, as person who lives within the deep web, i have read files that wont show up on any news outlet that later *months, become headlines. I am truly cautious about specific topics and how they are filtered.

Even this site has been mentioned within the deep wb, within, specific invite only groups as to how its dynamic flow and its influence amongst the general public is. All i am allowed to mention is that its neutrality has been noticed and is being watched. Would also like to make it clear that this sites abbreviation is never mentioned but a numerical and division of a specific incident (date/month/year) indicates that this site is being mentioned. ( talk about crypto )


oh..talk about me going off topic..oh well you get my point...
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posted on Aug, 11 2012 @ 04:06 PM
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Anyone who takes a serious look at this universe and comes to the conclusion that humans are the only life form with technological intelligence loses all intellectual credibility as far as I see it.

By my count, the probability of nonhuman intelligence existing on earth at some point is nearly 100%.

Science says it took humans 2 mil. years to go from monkey to modern. That's an eye blink. Even if intelligence only developed in the most recent 1% of time, that gives a head start of hundreds of millions of years on humans. If humanity is continuous for just another 10,000 years, then wow to that possibility.

The question is not whether intelligent life can develop, but whether it can survive...

All of the science really only considers water based life and that's probably a major flaw.





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