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reply posted on 10-8-2012 @ 10:28 AM by Dreine
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My thoughts, comments?

Whole lot of good that bailout and stimulus did, eh? The banks get even more help while the economy continues to lag behind and the good people of this country continue to suffer at the hands of a bunch of financial tyrants.

Maybe it is time for it all to come crashing down...


reply posted on 10-8-2012 @ 10:33 AM by Praetorius
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Maybe it is time for it all to come crashing down...

Hear, hear - time to clear the rubble so we can rebuild something lasting and of better quality for ourselves. I'd even be willing to extend that to quite a few other things as well.

I don't look forward to an apocalyptic sort of situation, but I'm truly starting to believe it might be necessary to set right what has gone so tragically wrong in so many different areas.


reply posted on 10-8-2012 @ 10:54 AM by SpaDe_
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I agree with most of what you have said with the exception of the SHTF statement. The true SHTF won't happen until the momentum that is keeping the zombie economy moving forward comes to a complete stop. When the final trickle up hits wall street and there is truly nothing left to put back in, that is when people will finally realize that the game is over so to speak. After that happens the chaos will ensue. When people can't use their various cards any longer to make purchases, and banks close their doors because they have no more money to give the real SHTF will occur.


reply posted on 10-8-2012 @ 11:08 AM by inverslyproportional
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Starred

I agree, the current system is now and has been for 20 years beyond saving. We need to "iceland" the bankers and politicians and start over with absolute transparancy, this is the only way to keep everyone honest in a faith based financial system. The whole thing is crashing down because it is based on faith, and average people no longer have faith in it.


reply posted on 10-8-2012 @ 12:28 PM by CookieMonster09
From the article linked in the original post:

"These disasters have damaged banks' reputations, but not their balance sheets. Most are still profitable, and in recent years the five banks have improved their capital bases and liquidity. They also have been subjected to annual Federal Reserve stress tests that measure whether the banks have sufficient capital to weather severe economic scenarios."

The mega-banks are much, much stronger than they were back in 2008-2009 when the financial crisis struck. They have been very, very aggressive in selling off non-core assets -- meaning, they have aggressively downsized departments and assets that are not a main part of their core operating business - i.e., deposits and loans.

Liquidity -- meaning cash on hand -- has skyrocketed at the mega-banks. The banks have money to lend, but a huge difficulty finding qualified borrowers to lend to. Profits are way up, liquidity is way up.


Maybe it is time for it all to come crashing down...


It's fair to say that we will eventually see an orchestrated event or events that will cause a One World Bank to emerge from the ash heap of our current banking structure. Consolidations will continue. Small banks will continue to get gobbled up by the big banks, and cannot compete on an even playing field with the mega-banks.


Hear, hear - time to clear the rubble so we can rebuild something lasting and of better quality for ourselves. I'd even be willing to extend that to quite a few other things as well.


Be careful what you wish for. The whole plan is to centralize the banking system into fewer and fewer hands until we eventually have a One World Bank. People decrying the current banking system will only speed up that process.


They do not have a great deal of cash on hand.

Because most banking has gone electronic. We are fast becoming a cashless society.


Also, loans have become much harder to get.


Agreed. However, loans have become difficult to get because we have had 30+ years of credit expansion and most individuals and businesses are already in debt up to their eyeballs and can barely manage their current debt loads.


I agree, the current system is now and has been for 20 years beyond saving.

These mega-banks are, after all, just a huge hodge-podge of consolidations, mergers, and acquisitions. You have people from hundreds of different banks, different software, all thrown together to try to operate as a single entity. That's one of the main reasons why the banks are so bureaucratic and inefficient.


reply posted on 10-8-2012 @ 12:31 PM by Chrisfishenstein
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I have a question about all of this? Has anyone ever had the bank they have their mortgage or even their car for that matter, go out of business?

Does that mean you don't owe money to them anymore? Or do they just sell your loan off to someone else before filing chapter 11??


reply posted on 10-8-2012 @ 12:36 PM by sheepslayer247
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They bundle loans and sell them off to keep their income fluid or another bank comes in and purchases the loans before the other bank becomes insolvent.

No freebies.....ever.
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reply posted on 10-8-2012 @ 12:39 PM by Chrisfishenstein
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That is kinda BS......Of course nobody can come out on top.......EVER!!!

I figured as much though, just figured to ask to see if it ever happened to anyone



reply posted on 10-8-2012 @ 12:59 PM by sheepslayer247
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Yes it can. I am on the road to doing just the myself. I just let the bank take back a financed vehicle and will be giving up my mortgage depending on how my lawsuit goes. (thats a long story)

But it can be done.


reply posted on 10-8-2012 @ 01:17 PM by Chrisfishenstein
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I remember reading all about it in your thread......Hopefully everything goes well on that aspect.....


reply posted on 10-8-2012 @ 04:21 PM by hp1229
Originally posted by Chrisfishenstein
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post by hp1229



I have a question about all of this? Has anyone ever had the bank they have their mortgage or even their car for that matter, go out of business?

Does that mean you don't owe money to them anymore? Or do they just sell your loan off to someone else before filing chapter 11??
I'm assuming generally or most of the times, they have a buyer of their DEBT way before they file bankruptcy. Ofcourse the customers wouldn't know anything about it.


reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 10:37 PM by magma
Originally posted by SpaDe_
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post by sheepslayer247



I agree with most of what you have said with the exception of the SHTF statement. The true SHTF won't happen until the momentum that is keeping the zombie economy moving forward comes to a complete stop. When the final trickle up hits wall street and there is truly nothing left to put back in, that is when people will finally realize that the game is over so to speak. After that happens the chaos will ensue. When people can't use their various cards any longer to make purchases, and banks close their doors because they have no more money to give the real SHTF will occur.


You do realise that if the banks ever closed their doors, marshal law would be in place.

That is not something that I want to be part of


reply posted on 12-8-2012 @ 11:45 PM by cenpuppie
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Marshal Law? Even the government would have a hard time holding that wave back.

We knew it was coming, strap yourselves in and invest in physical commodities. gems, food, the stuff that doesn't require "cash" to be moved.

Looks like the swap-meet is back in black baby!
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