Mitt Romney On Tax Returns: 'I'm Not A Business', page 3


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reply posted on 9-8-2012 @ 10:32 PM by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by beezzer



The question then is, did he screw the system or use the system. Our tax code sucks. Companies like GE pay nothing yet sit at Obama's White House and provide input on business.


The question is how far was he willing to go to keep his money outside of the United States.

I'm sure I paid a higher percentage than Romney did...I do well..but not Romney good. I have an accountant because my taxes aren't exactly simple. He has all kinds of crazy schemes he wants me to try...but I always tell him no thanks. I take the deductions and credits I'm entitled to...but I really have no desire to try to skip out on taxes.

Now, for me I don't care what rate Romney pays...I gladly pay the taxes I do because I know I support government programs that need money to run them. And the money I pay in taxes would be nice to have...but I am fine without it.

But if there is someone out there that is living paycheck to paycheck that pays there taxes like most average Americans do, and they see that Romney who makes millions of dollars paid a lower rate than they did...that might not sit too well with them.

So it is fine if you don't care what he did with his taxes...many people do...and you don't speak for them. Romney has already damaged his image by refusing so strongly to release his taxes...the damage he has taken suggest that he would suffer even more damage if he did release his taxes.


It is his money. I would use every "loophole" avaliable as well, if it meant keeping more of my money.


That is fine...you can idolize him for gaming the system and keeping his money out of the United States and in other countries.

The reality though is that the average American does not have the ability to do what he does...so they see it as there are two sets of rules.

You have to pay your taxes, unless you are rich enough to get out of it.


I could care less about a presidents opinion. I just want him/her to lead, deliver the mail, and preferably not start anymore wars.


Really...you don't care at all about their opinions???

It really seems like you are overly obsessed with Obama's opinions.

Also, I find it disturbing that the theme is "it's the governments money". Taxes are now either a carrot or a stick. They (taxes) are used as punative measures (ACA) and as a reward (tax breaks).

Tax refunds are seen as government giving to the people when it is actually, government took too much in the first place!


Where is that theme??? Who ever said it is the government's money???

When we talk about Romney's "returns"...we are talking about his paperwork...not the money he actually got back from the government.


reply posted on 9-8-2012 @ 10:35 PM by OutKast Searcher
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to
post by OutKast Searcher

So if Romney paid lots of taxes, he could run for president.
If Romney paid little taxes, he could run for president.

If Obama told the truth on his college transcripts, he could run for president.
If Obama was a foreign student and not a citizen, he could . . . er. . . um. . .


Really...still on the Birther argument???

I have to know...do you honestly think Obama was born in Kenya???


And as for Romeny paying his fair share, where are you on Buffett, Imholt? Or is it becase they support a democrat, they get a pass?


Are they running for President???

Not sure the confusion on this point.


reply posted on 9-8-2012 @ 10:40 PM by beezzer
reply to post by OutKast Searcher

I really don't think people care about what someone, anyone does with their money. Most opinion polls show a deep disdain for government, regardless of party affiliation. And any chance to trick the "man" is considered a bonus.

As for me not caring about Obama's opinions. . . I don't. It is his policies that have me concerned.



reply posted on 9-8-2012 @ 10:41 PM by beezzer
Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to
post by OutKast Searcher

So if Romney paid lots of taxes, he could run for president.
If Romney paid little taxes, he could run for president.

If Obama told the truth on his college transcripts, he could run for president.
If Obama was a foreign student and not a citizen, he could . . . er. . . um. . .


Really...still on the Birther argument???

I have to know...do you honestly think Obama was born in Kenya???


And as for Romeny paying his fair share, where are you on Buffett, Imholt? Or is it becase they support a democrat, they get a pass?


Are they running for President???

Not sure the confusion on this point.


1. Not a birther argument, just illsutrating that your comparrison is apples to lug nuts.

2. So they do get a pass. Gotcha!


reply posted on 9-8-2012 @ 10:56 PM by davidmann
Originally posted by charles1952
reply to
post by Kaploink


So Romney supporters can use your statement:
If a politician is acting like a use car salesman that doesn't want you to see a carfax, then it's very likely something is wrong.
to show that there is something wrong with Obama's citizenship and he is not even eligible. Find a new candidate.

Where are we going?



Where do you think we're going? Same same same. Whichever they select as POTUS, there's a bunch of secret squirrel stuff to keep either from doing anything foolish, such as not doing everything they're told. No surprise. We are supposed to believe in the election process, and they will make the whole thing as they need it to be. It'll be viewed as a close race, at first, and the vote count will be adjusted, at the end, to suit the 1500 day agenda of expanding federal and police state technofascistic powers. Don't forget, a car was broken into last night, because there weren't enough cameras and face key recognition programs on the streets. The world will become as if the inside of a casino, with Greco artificial intelligence equipment piecing together everything. Prison should swell in size, and many will be happy with the change. I can hardly wait, since my car was broken into last night.


reply posted on 9-8-2012 @ 11:24 PM by olaru12
Originally posted by beezzer
reply to
post by OutKast Searcher

I really don't think people care about what someone, anyone does with their money. Most opinion polls show a deep disdain for government, regardless of party affiliation. And any chance to trick the "man" is considered a bonus.






What country are we talking about here? Americans are obsessed with what other people do with their money. ex..."Lives of the Rich and Famous" and other celebrity driven drivel. Romney is a celebrity now and he can't ignore that status, even if he wants to. His arrogant appeal for special privileges and privacy evaporated when he threw his hat in the ring.

Yes there is a disdain for government and Romney is bringing that disdain upon himself, BECAUSE HE IS IN THE GOVERNMENT and wants the ultimate position of power.

If he is elected I hope the people bring the same scrutiny on him as has been dropped on Obama. I doubt though that he has a chance in hell of being elected, the way his campaign is being run.
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reply posted on 9-8-2012 @ 11:58 PM by murphy22
reply to post by OutKast Searcher



I want Mit as President and I don't care to see his tax return.
Your statement "Americans want to see his tax returns" is wrather broad.
I personally know no one that thinks his tax returns are important to the election.

I'll use your and MSM spin. Most Americans just want Obama gone!


reply posted on 10-8-2012 @ 12:02 AM by murphy22
reply to post by Djayed



Maybe he doesn't want to be special. Not all people feel the need to be special.


reply posted on 10-8-2012 @ 12:14 AM by olaru12
Originally posted by murphy22
reply to
post by Djayed



Maybe he doesn't want to be special. Not all people feel the need to be special.




Think about that statement....

A man running for the Presidency of the USA, doesn't want to be special............


reply posted on 10-8-2012 @ 01:10 AM by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by beezzer



1. Not a birther argument, just illsutrating that your comparrison is apples to lug nuts.


I'm not comparing anything...I'm talking about Romney's tax returns...it is you and others that brought up Obama's transcripts. Which is in fact a Birther argument.

2. So they do get a pass. Gotcha!


Get a pass on what??? Are we vetting private citizens now???

If they aren't running for office...I don't care what they do. Once they run for office...they are applying to become a public servant and are open to being vetted.

What don't you understand about this???



reply posted on 10-8-2012 @ 03:21 AM by OccamsRazor04
reply to post by OutKast Searcher



Except that is not the goal. It is not questioned that Romney made money, that is not the agenda here. Good on Romney to stand his ground. Shame on liberals talking about birthers and then jumping on the taxers bandwagon, quite disgusting. I'm pretty sure you're one of those who think the birthers are rediculous, now you have joined there ranks. I guess things change when it's your side calling for the witch hunt.


reply posted on 10-8-2012 @ 04:40 AM by Conspirafail
reply to post by DaTroof



This story like so many before it is meant to distract people from real issues this tactic being used is not a partisan problem its a culture problem we have a throw and retrieve election issue cycle. The media tosses a issue of some degree of controversy in to the public and then proceeds to incite the public through vitorol and spin.


reply posted on 10-8-2012 @ 06:51 AM by CrikeyMagnet
Originally posted by Conspirafail
reply to
post by DaTroof



This story like so many before it is meant to distract people from real issues this tactic being used is not a partisan problem its a culture problem we have a throw and retrieve election issue cycle. The media tosses a issue of some degree of controversy in to the public and then proceeds to incite the public through vitorol and spin.


To a large degree, agreed. These points may be completely irrelevant, and may tell us nothing. We may just be following distractions while the real issues are going unchallenged. If these are irrelevant distractions, then there's no reason to prolong the discussion by hiding the info. It will come out, and you're just giving everyone a reason to think it's something to be concerned about.
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