Mitt Romney On Tax Returns: 'I'm Not A Business'

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posted on Aug, 9 2012 @ 10:32 PM
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The question then is, did he screw the system or use the system. Our tax code sucks. Companies like GE pay nothing yet sit at Obama's White House and provide input on business.


The question is how far was he willing to go to keep his money outside of the United States.

I'm sure I paid a higher percentage than Romney did...I do well..but not Romney good. I have an accountant because my taxes aren't exactly simple. He has all kinds of crazy schemes he wants me to try...but I always tell him no thanks. I take the deductions and credits I'm entitled to...but I really have no desire to try to skip out on taxes.

Now, for me I don't care what rate Romney pays...I gladly pay the taxes I do because I know I support government programs that need money to run them. And the money I pay in taxes would be nice to have...but I am fine without it.

But if there is someone out there that is living paycheck to paycheck that pays there taxes like most average Americans do, and they see that Romney who makes millions of dollars paid a lower rate than they did...that might not sit too well with them.

So it is fine if you don't care what he did with his taxes...many people do...and you don't speak for them. Romney has already damaged his image by refusing so strongly to release his taxes...the damage he has taken suggest that he would suffer even more damage if he did release his taxes.



It is his money. I would use every "loophole" avaliable as well, if it meant keeping more of my money.


That is fine...you can idolize him for gaming the system and keeping his money out of the United States and in other countries.

The reality though is that the average American does not have the ability to do what he does...so they see it as there are two sets of rules.

You have to pay your taxes, unless you are rich enough to get out of it.



I could care less about a presidents opinion. I just want him/her to lead, deliver the mail, and preferably not start anymore wars.


Really...you don't care at all about their opinions???

It really seems like you are overly obsessed with Obama's opinions.


Also, I find it disturbing that the theme is "it's the governments money". Taxes are now either a carrot or a stick. They (taxes) are used as punative measures (ACA) and as a reward (tax breaks).

Tax refunds are seen as government giving to the people when it is actually, government took too much in the first place!


Where is that theme??? Who ever said it is the government's money???

When we talk about Romney's "returns"...we are talking about his paperwork...not the money he actually got back from the government.




posted on Aug, 9 2012 @ 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
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So if Romney paid lots of taxes, he could run for president.
If Romney paid little taxes, he could run for president.

If Obama told the truth on his college transcripts, he could run for president.
If Obama was a foreign student and not a citizen, he could . . . er. . . um. . .


Really...still on the Birther argument???

I have to know...do you honestly think Obama was born in Kenya???



And as for Romeny paying his fair share, where are you on Buffett, Imholt? Or is it becase they support a democrat, they get a pass?


Are they running for President???

Not sure the confusion on this point.



posted on Aug, 9 2012 @ 10:40 PM
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I really don't think people care about what someone, anyone does with their money. Most opinion polls show a deep disdain for government, regardless of party affiliation. And any chance to trick the "man" is considered a bonus.

As for me not caring about Obama's opinions. . . I don't. It is his policies that have me concerned.



posted on Aug, 9 2012 @ 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher

Originally posted by beezzer
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So if Romney paid lots of taxes, he could run for president.
If Romney paid little taxes, he could run for president.

If Obama told the truth on his college transcripts, he could run for president.
If Obama was a foreign student and not a citizen, he could . . . er. . . um. . .


Really...still on the Birther argument???

I have to know...do you honestly think Obama was born in Kenya???



And as for Romeny paying his fair share, where are you on Buffett, Imholt? Or is it becase they support a democrat, they get a pass?


Are they running for President???

Not sure the confusion on this point.


1. Not a birther argument, just illsutrating that your comparrison is apples to lug nuts.

2. So they do get a pass. Gotcha!



posted on Aug, 9 2012 @ 10:50 PM
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Originally posted by DaTroof
For a country full of people who go to H&R Block or other tax filing agencies to "get the most back" on their returns, they're pretty hypocritical to attack one's financial history.

I don't like Romney, but he's allowed the exact same legally accepted methods for filing taxes as any other American.

Non story.


Except those places really don't get you the most back, real CPA's get you more money. The reason Romney is getting so much flack is because all of the other presidents have done it, since Romneys father started to do it when he ran.

What makes Him so special?



posted on Aug, 9 2012 @ 10:56 PM
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Originally posted by charles1952
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So Romney supporters can use your statement:

If a politician is acting like a use car salesman that doesn't want you to see a carfax, then it's very likely something is wrong.
to show that there is something wrong with Obama's citizenship and he is not even eligible. Find a new candidate.

Where are we going?



Where do you think we're going? Same same same. Whichever they select as POTUS, there's a bunch of secret squirrel stuff to keep either from doing anything foolish, such as not doing everything they're told. No surprise. We are supposed to believe in the election process, and they will make the whole thing as they need it to be. It'll be viewed as a close race, at first, and the vote count will be adjusted, at the end, to suit the 1500 day agenda of expanding federal and police state technofascistic powers. Don't forget, a car was broken into last night, because there weren't enough cameras and face key recognition programs on the streets. The world will become as if the inside of a casino, with Greco artificial intelligence equipment piecing together everything. Prison should swell in size, and many will be happy with the change. I can hardly wait, since my car was broken into last night.



posted on Aug, 9 2012 @ 11:24 PM
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Originally posted by beezzer
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I really don't think people care about what someone, anyone does with their money. Most opinion polls show a deep disdain for government, regardless of party affiliation. And any chance to trick the "man" is considered a bonus.






What country are we talking about here? Americans are obsessed with what other people do with their money. ex..."Lives of the Rich and Famous" and other celebrity driven drivel. Romney is a celebrity now and he can't ignore that status, even if he wants to. His arrogant appeal for special privileges and privacy evaporated when he threw his hat in the ring.

Yes there is a disdain for government and Romney is bringing that disdain upon himself, BECAUSE HE IS IN THE GOVERNMENT and wants the ultimate position of power.

If he is elected I hope the people bring the same scrutiny on him as has been dropped on Obama. I doubt though that he has a chance in hell of being elected, the way his campaign is being run.
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posted on Aug, 9 2012 @ 11:56 PM
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"Corporations are people too, I am not a business!"



posted on Aug, 9 2012 @ 11:58 PM
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I want Mit as President and I don't care to see his tax return.
Your statement "Americans want to see his tax returns" is wrather broad.
I personally know no one that thinks his tax returns are important to the election.

I'll use your and MSM spin. Most Americans just want Obama gone!



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 12:02 AM
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Maybe he doesn't want to be special. Not all people feel the need to be special.



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 12:14 AM
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Originally posted by murphy22
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Maybe he doesn't want to be special. Not all people feel the need to be special.




Think about that statement....

A man running for the Presidency of the USA, doesn't want to be special............



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 01:10 AM
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1. Not a birther argument, just illsutrating that your comparrison is apples to lug nuts.


I'm not comparing anything...I'm talking about Romney's tax returns...it is you and others that brought up Obama's transcripts. Which is in fact a Birther argument.


2. So they do get a pass. Gotcha!


Get a pass on what??? Are we vetting private citizens now???

If they aren't running for office...I don't care what they do. Once they run for office...they are applying to become a public servant and are open to being vetted.

What don't you understand about this???



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 01:24 AM
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Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
This tax issue is just not going to go away for Romney. He is running out of ways to defend himself not releasing his tax returns.


Neither will the college transcripts, passport info, and other information that Obama has kept hidden.
Unless someday there is a statue of him in the Kremlin, this will come out and he will be shown as the liar and fraud he is. It may not be during my lifetime but I will be laughing no matter how hot I get.



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 01:28 AM
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Originally posted by Nite_wing

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
This tax issue is just not going to go away for Romney. He is running out of ways to defend himself not releasing his tax returns.


Neither will the college transcripts, passport info, and other information that Obama has kept hidden.
Unless someday there is a statue of him in the Kremlin, this will come out and he will be shown as the liar and fraud he is. It may not be during my lifetime but I will be laughing no matter how hot I get.


None of those are campaign issues...the Romney campaign is not going to touch Birther non-sense...no matter how much Trump wants them to.

But Romney's taxes are a campaign issue...and it isn't going away and it's hurting him every single day.



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 02:50 AM
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no human being is a business.

no company or corporation can have any power over a free man. if they do, that is classed as slavery.

we are all born as free men and women, we do not have to submit to thier authority.

the time has come to make a stand.

www.getoutofdebtfree.org

www.fmotl.com

these sites will help you open your eyes to the lies we are forced to believe by TPTB.



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 03:21 AM
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Except that is not the goal. It is not questioned that Romney made money, that is not the agenda here. Good on Romney to stand his ground. Shame on liberals talking about birthers and then jumping on the taxers bandwagon, quite disgusting. I'm pretty sure you're one of those who think the birthers are rediculous, now you have joined there ranks. I guess things change when it's your side calling for the witch hunt.



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 04:40 AM
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This story like so many before it is meant to distract people from real issues this tactic being used is not a partisan problem its a culture problem we have a throw and retrieve election issue cycle. The media tosses a issue of some degree of controversy in to the public and then proceeds to incite the public through vitorol and spin.



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 06:44 AM
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Who came up with the absurd notion that the President has any right to privacy? Sure, technically, your President may be a private citizen, but in practice, everything he does, says, eats, or throws up is in the public record. Everything in his history is a hair's breadth from being public knowledge, and every second that he's still talked about, someone will be working to make that knowledge public. "Buyer beware" is not something that should easily be accepted in a Presidential run. It won't go away, and if it tries to hide, it will just be more fragmented when it comes out.

I'm afraid it works on both arguments (taxes, and birth records/tran_what have you). Transparency would clear the whole thing up. End of questions. Unless it doesn't. But if it doesn't, then what were you trying to pull? Don't expect to run for the big P, and still have some shred of privacy.

Whether it is officially a requirement of office or not, if you want to work for the people, the requirements of office are what they say. Party lines are irrelevant. Going back to the car analogy... If you don't provide Carfax (and, incidentally, any other document I ask for, when or before I ask for it) then I walk. Then, dropping the analogy, because you're not buying a car, wouldn't it be nice if a candidate just volunteered the information people are looking for?



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 06:51 AM
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Originally posted by Conspirafail
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This story like so many before it is meant to distract people from real issues this tactic being used is not a partisan problem its a culture problem we have a throw and retrieve election issue cycle. The media tosses a issue of some degree of controversy in to the public and then proceeds to incite the public through vitorol and spin.


To a large degree, agreed. These points may be completely irrelevant, and may tell us nothing. We may just be following distractions while the real issues are going unchallenged. If these are irrelevant distractions, then there's no reason to prolong the discussion by hiding the info. It will come out, and you're just giving everyone a reason to think it's something to be concerned about.



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 06:54 AM
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Here's my thoughts. I personally think this is a very calculated gamble on Romney's part. You really don't think that all throughout the election process that Romney campaign advisers didn't plan for all sorts of contingencies and what to do in this situation, how to handle this or that? I'm pretty sure that anyone running for the POTUS has all their ducks in a row (or they shouldn't be running). I have a feeling that once he announces his VP pick, gets the nomination at the convention and is then able to spend tens of millions of dollars on ads, that he will release additional tax return info in a massive "in your face Democrats" ad campaign and media blitz. Good lord, what will the talking heads do then? What will people argue about? Maybe the real issues like the economy, record levels of debt and a need to overhaul the tax code. On second thought probably not, but one can hope.





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