HAARPstatus.com reliable or not???????

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posted on Aug, 9 2012 @ 04:02 PM
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I don't understand...
How do you know, it's Kevin Martin's site?
Because someone in your linked thread says:"He and Dutchsinse are behind this I think." ?




posted on Aug, 9 2012 @ 04:10 PM
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You have been Lied to for many years and do you think for one minute these so called People will tell you the TRUTH ?



posted on Aug, 9 2012 @ 04:16 PM
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Because chemtrailforecast is also his site. Oh, and then there is this:

I am indeed part of a couple projects related to HAARP, one of them designed to measure frequencies in the upper atmosphere that cannot be otherwise explained. I will choose to keep them anon, but I have signed on to become part of their project within the last week. Haarp Status is a true project, Haarp Ring man who will not name ... is a scammer.

www.theweatherspace.com...

He calls Dutchsince a scammer. That's pretty funny. Pot, meet kettle.

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posted on Aug, 9 2012 @ 04:33 PM
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Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by grobi77
 

Because chemtrailforecast is also his site. Oh, and then there is this:

I am indeed part of a couple projects related to HAARP, one of them designed to measure frequencies in the upper atmosphere that cannot be otherwise explained. I will choose to keep them anon, but I have signed on to become part of their project within the last week. Haarp Status is a true project, Haarp Ring man who will not name ... is a scammer.

www.theweatherspace.com...

He calls Dutchsince a scammer. That's pretty funny. Pot, meet kettle.

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Would that be, pot as in weed,
and kettle as in bong?



posted on Aug, 9 2012 @ 04:35 PM
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Im not sure if Haarp can change the weather, i do know, when the readings get into the 5`s and higher something earthy-weather realted- natural (unnatural-man manipulated) is going ot happen, and soon.



posted on Aug, 9 2012 @ 04:42 PM
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okay.....he became part of the haarp status project, but we cannot necessarily assume that it is his site

but I also vote for "not reliable"



posted on Aug, 9 2012 @ 05:18 PM
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Here's an article on HARRP that I find most intriguing indeed. It's not hard to check out the facts that they state and have gathered.

Here's an interesting tie-bit...

Do these comments point to uses already somewhat developed? The author of the government report refers to an earlier Air Force document about the uses of radio frequency radiation in combat situations. (Here Begich and Manning note that HAARP is the most versatile and the largest radio-frequency-radiation transmitter in the world.)

The United States Congressional record deals with the use of HAARP for penetrating the earth with signals bounced off of the ionosphere. These signals are used to look inside the planet to a depth of many kilometers in order to locate underground munitions, minerals and tunnels. The U.S. Senate set aside $15 million dollars in 1996 to develop this ability alone -- earth-penetrating-tomography. The problem is that the frequency needed for earth-penetrating radiation is within the frequency range most cited for disruption of human mental functions. It may also have profound effects on migration patterns of fish and wild animals which rely on an undisturbed energy field to find their routes.

As if electromagnetic pulses in the sky and mental disruption were not enough, T. Eastlund bragged that the super-powerful ionospheric heater could control weather.

Article:
www.haarp.net...

Begich and Manning brought to light government documents indicating that the military has weather-control technology. When HAARP is eventually built to its full power level, it could create weather effects over entire hemispheres. If one government experiments with the world's weather patterns, what is done in one place will impact everyone else on the planet. Angels Don't Play This HAARP explains a principle behind some of Nikola Tesla's inventions -- resonance -- which affect planetary systems
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posted on Aug, 9 2012 @ 08:12 PM
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Originally posted by tracehd1
When HAARP is eventually built to its full power level, it could create weather effects over entire hemispheres.

Exactly what full power level are you talking about? The power levels I've seen won't even affect all of Alaska, let alone a hemisphere. The idea that it's affecting California is beyond tinfoil hat territory.



posted on Aug, 9 2012 @ 08:34 PM
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Thank you for that, i enjoyed the read

They say HAARP is based from Tesla's work? that's possibly the scariest thing i've read on it, that's a gamechanger for me this isn't just some guys playing with radars anymore.

I'd advise folks check that link out.. and also check out Tesla.. but that'll take more than a read to grasp



posted on Aug, 9 2012 @ 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by Xarian6
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They say HAARP is based from Tesla's work? that's possibly the scariest thing i've read on it, that's a gamechanger for me .
I don't know about HAARP, but the wall socket where you plug your lamp in uses AC electricity of Tesla. So are you scared to plug a light in a wall socket? How does this make it a gamechanger and why would you be scared of it?



posted on Aug, 9 2012 @ 09:41 PM
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Here is a link to more researching showing this site to be worthless.
Debunked: HaarpStatus.com

I tried searching for any information on the sensor design they claim is deployed across the US and found NOTHING. This is extremely unusual compared to other grass-roots residential sensor projects that publish reference sensor designs compatible with their networks.

My vote, NOT RELIABLE.

Best regards,
Z



posted on Aug, 9 2012 @ 10:14 PM
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Originally posted by Vasa Croe
I have searched here and online for the reasoning behind why some say that haarpstatus.com is not a reliable source of information for predictions of weather and natural disasters but can't find anything.

Can anyone here give me the reasoning behind the differing opinions on this site?

I ask because it recently came up in another thread and a poster said that it was unreliable as a source but gave no reasoning behind it, nor has any other poster I have seen.

I have also not seen any information as to why is should be considered reliable, so opinions and facts from both sides are welcome.

HAARPSTATUS


That was probably me Vasa. Here was the clue a few posts before I said it wasn't credible. www.abovetopsecret.com... You probably got it by now anyway.

Thanks!
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posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 02:44 AM
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Originally posted by Trappenin
It is a cool picture. Nice color usage.

I don't believe HAARP has anything at all to do with the weather. At all. Ever.



I agree. It's much more likely to be a tool to enhance or change HF/VLF radio propagation than some magic weather controlling zapping weapon or earthquake machine from a comic book. Isn't it it a US navy sponsored site?

Perhaps its more to do with the study of ground to submarine radio sgnals or ground to ship worldwide communications than these wacky theories of death ray weapons.



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 03:58 AM
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1st we create guns and munitions, then...we build devices to locate them underground??? That doesn't sound like a cat and mouse game, to you??? Kinda like, fund the enemy, then send unsuspecting fools to fight against them, no?



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 04:50 AM
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Your thread is interesting as is the HAARPstatus.com. Extremely low frequency waves (ELF's), which I'm assuming are what the numbers corresponding to colors on the map represent, have been noted as possible precursors to earthquakes before.

Preliminary Observations of Seismicity at Mount Pinatubo


The 1991 eruption of Mount Pinatubo produced a wide variety of seismicity including swarms of volcano-tectonic earthquakes, long-period events, volcanic tremor, and explosive eruptions. Swarms of volcano-tectonic earthquakes and periods of continuous volcano-tectonic seismicity exhibited strong spectral peaks between 2.5 and 4.5 hertz and occurred during the emplacement of a lava dome on June 5-7, prior to the onset of explosive activity (June 8-12), and following the cataclysmic eruption on June 15. Long-period events and volcanic tremor produced a strong signal between 0.5 and 2.5 hertz. Energy in this frequency range increased dramatically between June 1 and the cataclysmic eruption on June 15.


In the study, these observations were not used to predict but were gathered for later analysis. The power of the frequency increased and this is the type of activity that HAARP can artificially stimulate. Because of this study, I believe, which put the earthquake activity at 2.5 or so hertz, later allegations were made over the 9.0 Japan earthquake because readings found an artificial 2.5 hertz signal for some days prior.

Just like tomography can use explosions to send frequencies and then determine substance and shape based on returns, one of HAARP's functions is tomography and extremely low frequency waves are good for this because they go through most anything. HAARP also lists as one of their acknowledged functions the use of these same extremely low frequency waves to communicate with craft underwater.

In fact, I think, that the Yellowstone Caldera was originally mapped using earthquake frequencies.

I, like another poster, have questions about the chart which seems to be an island unto itself. If we knew how the measurements were arrived at, we could draw our own conclusions as to what it means.



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 07:25 AM
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There's a difference between consumer based energy delivery.. ie: my wall socket

and

Messing with Resonance Theory

Im not even going to explain why it's bad, Folks that recognize the dangers are well versed in what parts of Tesla's work i reefer to, due to me being instantly labeled a "doom porn Dealer" or "crackpot"..

The data is out there for all to see.. right under your nose, there laughing at you as they play with their "big boys toys" I pray they don't go to far.

For god's sake folks..... It's your motto isnt it? Deny Ignorance..

Im starting to think that's just a funky catchphrase and not actually adhered to much anymore.. or is tesla now/was a Hoaxer too??

I've said my bit, now if your still wondering why im worried after reading about tesla's work in the wrong hands i suggest you go read more about tesla.. before he becomes the next "fairytale" or debunked hoaxer (even though.. he lived 100 years ago.. and changed the world in many ways..)



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 09:09 AM
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Feedback was much appreciated! Have looked through all the links and am concluding, as most have, that the site is unreliable and has no bearing on anything.



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 09:14 AM
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Give it a chance, it's new science. In twenty years they will better understand these things as they learn more how to interpret the data. I'm glad to see them allowing us to see their stuff.



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 02:08 PM
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Feedback was much appreciated! Have looked through all the links and am concluding, as most have, that the site is unreliable and has no bearing on anything.


Lol...a troll in your own thread. Extremely low frequencies have no bearing on anything? Was this just another debunker thread put up by a debunker? Nobody spoke to the chart itself. All debunkers disparaged the person allegedly behind it because of real or imagined association with Dutchsinse. Dutchsinse, btb, who brought us HAARP Rings which HAARPsters themselves have admitted to being able to create in the form of spirals.

HAARP heats a section of the ionosphere with modulated frequency which encourages the propogation of extremely low frequency waves which bounce within the earth-ionosphere cavity and which have been shown to be possible earthquake precursors or, alleged, inducers.

The chart shows these frequencies within certain geography. What is unreliable about that?



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by luxordelphi
HAARP heats a section of the ionosphere with modulated frequency which encourages the propogation of extremely low frequency waves which bounce within the earth-ionosphere cavity


As does the Sun every day.





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