Driving to a food bank?, page 1


Pages: <<  1    2    3    4  >>
ATS Members have flagged this thread 7 times
Topic started on 9-8-2012 @ 11:10 AM by buddhasystem
I heard a program on NPR this morning, and the text and audio are available at this link.

I have to say I'm glad that food banks are there to help people in need, and although I myself never used them, at some points in my life I had to make do with extremely limited resources. Which brings me to the phrase in the article that ticked me off: apparently, serving a lunch to your kid is a burden. Well duh. So is parenthood in general.

I'm a father and I've cooked for my kids on many occasions. If one doesn't have much money, is it still a financially mortal blow to cook some beans and rice? A baked potato with a dollop of sour cream? Lettuce and tomato salad for a 8 year old? A two-egg omelette? Maybe it'll run you a whopping 40 cents.

I really don't get it. One drives to a food bank to collect food, burning a non-trivial amount of money as gasoline. At the same time, they have trouble spending a few pennies and a few minutes of their time to feed the kid.

What's wrong with this picture?
edit on 9-8-2012 by buddhasystem because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 9-8-2012 @ 11:36 AM by Advantage
reply to post by buddhasystem


I volunteer at our food pantry here in our city. A lot of people drive in.. especially the ones from far away and many borrow cars. They are embarrassed about certain things and blurt them out.. like thats not my car or we just lost our jobs and they will be taking the car soon, etc. There are all kinds of circumstances and there are also the scammers. We are so low on food and so many more new people that we have to become the food nazis... you have to show proof of being on medicaid and receiving energy assistance or etc for us to give you the amount we have allotted. Im talking a whole wagon full for a family and etc. Most folks come in at the end of the month when their stamps run out.. with our rising food prices here, thats MOST of the people.

Anyway, there are MANY scenarios. Not everyone can walk in downtrodden and begging.. or should they.


reply posted on 9-8-2012 @ 11:56 AM by antonia
reply to post by buddhasystem



In many areas in the U.S. you cannot survive without a car as public transport is lacking. Furthermore, they may have bought that car before they fell on hard times. But yeah, I get what you are saying.


reply posted on 9-8-2012 @ 11:59 AM by inverslyproportional
reply to post by buddhasystem



I have used the food pantry before, is that the same thing? Any how, a food pantry is a church run low income food stuffs program. I was down and out so to speak, a week until payday and out of almost everything. A neighbor suggested I try the food pantry. It got me through a couple of rough patches now over the years. Having said that, what's the beef with driving there? I lived in rural Indiana at the time, and nothing is within walking distance, everyone has a car and drive, as there is no public transportation at all. When it is 14 miles to the food pantry, walking home with a box of canned goods bigger than I am is not somthing that can happen in the real world.

Now I live in Plainfield, but we don't have any public transportation here either.


reply posted on 9-8-2012 @ 12:00 PM by Destinyone
I live in a very rural area. The 8...yes, 8 little churches in my little town, have had to post on their signs...sorry, out of food.

They try to help as many people they can, but, the donations aren't coming in like they used to. Also, our little Sat. morning farmer's market, has now, a system set up, where WIC cards can be used to purchase paper tickets from the office. Each ticket equals $1.00, tickets to be used to purchase produce and food items ONLY. The seller then trades the paper tickets to the office for the money. It works really well, for the most part. The system was set up through the Agriculture dept. up here.

But, there are still those who try to use their WIC/foodstamps, to purchase nonfood items. I make and sell, hand made fancy high end organic soaps, lotions and what not. All Spa products. I still get Mothers, with kids in tow, trying to buy expensive stuff from me, with WIC tickets. I won't sell it to them. They get pi**ed too. I tell them to buy food for their families, that's what it's for.

Part of the problem, I think, is a segment of society that thinks everything...and I mean *everything*, should be handed to them. That if they are unhappy with anything in their lives, it's someone elses' fault. Right down to making a freaking meal for their kids. That government should shoulder all the parental responsibility of feeding their kids. There are some kids up here, that only get a real meal in school or church on Sunday, when the old women make a morning breakfast for kids attending. It's wrong...just plain wrong when parents hold no responsibility for their own children

Des



edit on 9-8-2012 by Destinyone because: (no reason given)



reply posted on 9-8-2012 @ 01:16 PM by buddhasystem
Originally posted by inverslyproportional
reply to
post by buddhasystem


...A neighbor suggested I try the food pantry. It got me through a couple of rough patches now over the years.


As I said at the very start, I'm glad there is food assistance.

Having said that, what's the beef with driving there? I lived in rural Indiana at the time, and nothing is within walking distance, everyone has a car and drive, as there is no public transportation at all. When it is 14 miles to the food pantry, walking home with a box of canned goods bigger than I am is not somthing that can happen in the real world.


No beef, really.

In my area it's not easy (and often impossible) to get around just on public transport. I get that. In the program, they mentioned people from Bridgeport -- I do know both places mentioned rather well, and it's roughly 18 miles away that makes 36 miles round trip so it's like 1.5 to 2 gallons of gas in some cases. That's $8. If you really are starving, this strikes me as a non-trivial amount of money. Will buy you plenty of rice and beans.


reply posted on 9-8-2012 @ 01:18 PM by antonia
reply to post by buddhasystem



The average person doesn't realize that though. In fact most people don't realize how to save on their food bill. It requires a certain about of strategy most people don't think about.



reply posted on 9-8-2012 @ 01:26 PM by inverslyproportional
reply to post by geobro



Your forgetting too though. That England is the size of a small state, not even one of our big ones. Indiana is very spread out, and we aren't even one of the big western states. here it is 30 or 40 miles inbetween cities at the least most of the time. Around Indianapolis is one of the exeptions.


reply posted on 9-8-2012 @ 01:29 PM by inverslyproportional
reply to post by buddhasystem



OIC, you were commenting on an area in specific. I got ya, I know nothing of the area in question. I suppose it makes sense to me now OP. SnF. Good point.


reply posted on 9-8-2012 @ 01:45 PM by geobro
reply to post by inverslyproportional



i live in the highlands of scotland & it is a long way from anywhere we are not even considered part of the uk by our postal service 30 or 40 miles here is close 150 plus is normal


reply posted on 9-8-2012 @ 02:16 PM by jplaysguitar
reply to post by Destinyone


WOW des i think you confusing EBT card i.e. food stamps for WIC. wic is a great program that is just a blank check only for milk eggs bread peanut butter juice And cereal. but there a horibal stigma for unfortunate folks who use them

wow you tell people how to spend ther Gov. assistance funds?

that is so incredibly RUDE i dont even know what to say
i dont blame the good people who get pissed off at you


reply posted on 9-8-2012 @ 02:24 PM by buddhasystem
Originally posted by jplaysguitar
reply to
post by Destinyone


WOW des i think you confusing EBT card i.e. food stamps for WIC. wic is a great program that is just a blank check only for milk eggs bread peanut butter juice And cereal.


Not entirely true. There is a PDF file here which details authorized foods. Fruits and veggies are covered really, really well. I don't wish anyone to be on WIC but this is a pretty sweet list IMHO.


reply posted on 9-8-2012 @ 02:26 PM by Destinyone
Originally posted by jplaysguitar
reply to
post by Destinyone


WOW des i think you confusing EBT card i.e. food stamps for WIC. wic is a great program that is just a blank check only for milk eggs bread peanut butter juice And cereal. but there a horibal stigma for unfortunate folks who use them

wow you tell people how to spend ther Gov. assistance funds?

that is so incredibly RUDE i dont even know what to say
i dont blame the good people who get pissed off at you



OK...here we go...again. I pay taxes, have for over 50 years. I started working at 12 years old. Paying taxes that long, and still do. All assistance programs are funded with our taxes. Yes, some people really do need a hand, not a hand out. I'm all for giving a hand.

Now, when someone on assistance for food for their family is out shopping, and they try to buy the products I make to sell, so I can support MYSELF, and keep PAYING TAXES, and they want to spend OUR TAXES on luxury soaps I make, starting at $5.00 per bar, and going up from there....well...it chaps my A$$.

It doesn't chap my a$$ when they are buying FOOD. But trying to buy $50.00 worth of soaps, lotions and non-essential luxury items does. Are you honestly saying that I should let them spend OUR tax money on these things...

That makes me as much of a CHEAT, as they are...doesn't it...

This only tells me....you don't pay taxes....

Des


reply posted on 9-8-2012 @ 05:38 PM by Destinyone
reply to post by buddhasystem



Because they don't have to. We do, in order to be self sufficient. Big difference between earning it, and getting it.

I don't object in any way, someone who *honestly* is using assistance programs, and Lord knows there are an abundance of them, to assist those who need it. I do object to those who take advantage of those programs. We pay for those programs, yet, don't use them for ourselves. I've met in real life, people who are 3rd. generation welfare families. They have zero inclination to do anything different in their lives. I've offered good paying jobs to some of them in the past, only to be told, only if I pay them cash, under the table. They didn't want a job that might cause them to lose any assistance benefits.

I don't know of any solution. I do know, retirement for me, is a dream of the past. I'll be working until the day I die.

So much of my savings have been eaten by higher property taxes, new county taxes that seem to pop up like weeds.

Oh well.....

Des
Pages: <<  1    2    3    4  >>    ^^TOP^^



Norway To Open Century Old Package
  Posted 19 days ago with 127 member flags
Blame The Real Bad Guys - The Powers Behind Super Powers
  Posted 18 days ago with 65 member flags
19 Yr Old Hostage Gunned Down By Police While Escaping Captor
  Posted 8 days ago with 53 member flags
DHS Source: “It’s going hot”
  Posted 14 days ago with 49 member flags
Police Shoot Another 911 Caller In Her Own Backyard
  Posted 19 days ago with 46 member flags
The Oatmeal\'s Tesla Fundraiser Pushes Past $1.1M
  Posted 15 days ago with 44 member flags