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posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 03:53 AM
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reply to post by DragonRain311
 

PLEASE! If you were living in IRAN...you would be posting something else entirely. Actually...you wouldn't be posting at all due to Government Internet Filters.

You are speaking words of the Highest Hypocrisy. You are a North American with almost Unlimited Rights. What have you to say to the parents of the Iranian Youths who were SHOT AND BEATEN TO DEATH...all because they had the BALLS to protest because of a STOLEN ELECTION?

It's easy to make opinions about something you neither know about or have experienced when you are safe at home in Canada and have no fear of some Government Thugs busting down your door and beating and torturing you...all because you spoke out.

If you want to apologize...why not do so for why you did not help stop these youths DEATHS? Split Infinity




posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 04:15 AM
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HERE HERE !!! Great OP !

I also apologise for western greed and hate.

Peace and love
K



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 04:58 AM
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I do so enjoy the people who get all warm and fuzzy when they think about mooselimbs. I bet you know some real nice mooselimbs, and you can say beyond any doubt they are a good people.
I am getting all warm and fuzzy just typing this.
Here is the problem, when some live in your neighborhood, they are nice people
When one works in the cubicle across from you, they are nice people

When you live in their neighborhood...you are the infidel next door
When you go to a school that is predominately arab and you even LOOK at an arab girl you are in danger of harm
Go move to Dearborn, enroll your kid in Dearborn High School and put your love for Iranians to the test. The kids learn from their parents and their imams, it aint love they are preaching.
Persians and arabs put away any differences they may have when it comes to dealing with us.
All niceties aside when it comes down to it, you are either mooselimg, soon to be mooselimb or an infidel
Until you refuse to convert, you are still a potential mooselimb, but once you refuse to convert the same one who ate lunch with you yesterday has a choice to make. He can choose to abandon you forever or get in trouble himself. Business dealings and acquaintances are one thing, but if you want to date his daughter..it will be over her dead body
To my iranian brothers.....that is laugh. Apologize for yourselves but leave me out of it. I am still waiting for them to apologize for the hostages. I am still waiting for them to say sorry for calling me and my loved ones devils. I am still waiting for words of regret for burning my flag,
It kills me that people have a hatred for Jews that is so absolute they would claim love for a people that would cause them harm just to stick their thumb in the eye of a Jew.
Sometimes problems are so complicated you have to break them down into their lowest common denominator to arrive at the correct answer.
You either prefer the islamic way of life and would prefer everyone live by their rules, or you prefer the Jewish way of life and prefer everyone lives by their rules.
Personally I choose the side that girls go to the park with who ever they want, lets women choose how they dress, or do not dress. That lets people choose to live their lives as they see fit without threats of harm.

You get on here and say you know an Iranian and they are good people......did you get to know some Jewish people and they treated you like a dog or did you stop when you met an arab and just threw the Jew on the hate list?
You guys get on here and tell each other how moral you are, which in itself is immoral.
If your idea of morality is voicing support for a people who would beat a woman for taking a walk in the park alone, or forbidding a woman to drive a car, or causing a woman harm for wearing bluejeans and a T-Shirt.
Then your idea of what makes a moral people is a lot different than mine. Or is it as long as you are free from these kinds of treatments you do not really care that others are not?
We have this little thing here called the Constitution. One of the first things it tells me is that God bestowed upon all men....it does not say all American men, it says all men, the Right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. I am sworn by birthright to hold these values above all else. Because I believe these words to be true I am obligated to consider any nation who would deny their people these basic liberties and would punish them should they choose to exercise them, my sworn enemy.
If I had my way, I would bomb Iran, call up their leaders and ask them if all men were created equal. If he said no they are not. I would bomb a little more then make another call to see if the answer has changed yet. When the answer changed to, ok ok everyone is equal and free to live their lives as they see fit, only then would I prepare for peace talks......then turn my attention to the next islamic country. It wouldn't take very long before the other countries put their citizens God given Rights above the words of moohamed
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posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 05:16 AM
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Will check this doc out, cheers



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 05:54 AM
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every dog has there day, when the shoe is on they other foot....
watch & learn we will be in the same boat soon. prices keep going up they give use lots of toys to have fun with ,talking cars,4g freedom,
when the giant eats all the golden eggs we will be in the same place as the middle east.....



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 06:06 AM
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I believe and hope that before that day comes we will start seeing the people voting their state out of the union.
Keep your deficit, keep your federals laws, we are outta here.



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 06:32 AM
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Originally posted by gravitational
reply to post by DragonRain311
 


The “propaganda” as you put it, is not and never was against the Iranian people, but against the megalomaniac murdering actions of the Iranian regime.
See the difference now ?
do you know 100% what really happens over there? let me answer that for you.....no you don't. nobody does. some of it may be true, but truth be told you have no idea. and if it is, how much of it is blown out of proportion?

you know you can't believe everything you see on tv, so why do you act like it?



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 06:54 AM
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hmm..I'm not favoring any sides.. But what proof do we really have that Iran is actually not making nukes..
We the people simply don't have any proof or "Intelligence" on anything going on, What if Iran is really making nukes..What if they are simply making it "peaceful" but selling the Nuclear rods to "Terriost" countries.. They could be making these nukes underground or in a "secret" base.. Iran has said and done things that don't make them look to legit, I.e. Threaten to shoot "100,000" missles at Israel.. launch missles at "mimicked" American bases.. Which doesn't help them out, as they say they are a "peaceful" country.. Doing stuff like that gives the Americans leverage.

So, we simply don't really know much whats going on, We just "speculate and Assume"
But than you have to look at it, What evidence do we have of them trying to make nuclear weapons, And not being so peaceful.. Although they are enriching high % of Uranium which could be used for Weapons..But than again you would have to look at it at this angle also..If the US, or Israel or any other NATO country doing Intelligence on Iran, does have some Evidence and it does become public..Wouldn't Iran cover it up, move there stockpile somewhere else, they're so many things that could be done. It's just so hard to belive anything that's going on around this world.. check out this on googlemaps " 27.171430 56.173568 " They must be some "Peaceful" Missles...



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 06:56 AM
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You, "Sir", are a bigot, and are exactly the type of person the OP is talking about. Your post is absolutely ignorant, and proves how brainwashed you really are.

In a perfect world, no one with your mentality would have access to any kind of weapon. You would be in psychiatric help. Alas, high ranks of the military are filled with exactly that mentality. Hence the sad world state.

I don't support what the USSA government does, anymore than I support what the Iranian government does... But I stand by the fact that the USSA should stay within it's own borders, instead of policing the world and creating all these conflicts worldwide, for the simple goal of stimulating it's economy...



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 08:37 AM
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I'm an american and feel for sorry for anybody around the world who is not a zionist; including americans. We are all persecuted by the zionists, just in different ways.

People need to understand who is lobbying and essentially buying US politics. Jews fund 60% of US elections.

First of all Jews own/control the federel reserve, the media, hollywood, the porn industry, 70% of the major universities in the US, major banks. It goes on and on.

The Zionists use governments like the US, to force war on the mid-east. But in other countries, like the US. They abuse us with debt. The wars have bankrupted the USA, the housing collapse, the federal reserve printing free money and charging interest to the taxpayers. Look a the 911 attacks or liberty ship bombing. Those are terrosist attacks by Israel on the US.

From what i have learned seems like the ultra orthodox Jews have it in their religion to screw goyim any way they can. That is how everything seems to go wrong all the time without any conspiracy going on. They are all drilling around us. Everybody is brought up to rise to the top, take over, and team up with other jews instinctively. At the same time to lie cheat and steal from any goyim without hesitation. We are like cows to them, on the earth to serve them as far as they are concerned.

Jews are excellent liars. They can smile and seem friendly, but at the same time being trying to rob you blind. Look at the holacaust. Their is no proof of gas chambers anywhere.

Once one learns enough, they can figure out every nation is being attacked by the zionists one way or another....

Not all of the jews are not bad people. It is only a percentage that rise to the top of institutions and really

weapons of mass destruction...Real estate collapase via derivatives.
the warning

Holohoax
David Cole Aushiwitz

The elders of zion

Proof Israel did 911
Missing links 911

Oprah jewish ritual sacrifice
ritual sacrifice




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posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by jephers0n
reply to post by ronnieray123
 


You, "Sir", are a bigot, and are exactly the type of person the OP is talking about. Your post is absolutely ignorant, and proves how brainwashed you really are.

In a perfect world, no one with your mentality would have access to any kind of weapon. You would be in psychiatric help. Alas, high ranks of the military are filled with exactly that mentality. Hence the sad world state.

I don't support what the USSA government does, anymore than I support what the Iranian government does... But I stand by the fact that the USSA should stay within it's own borders, instead of policing the world and creating all these conflicts worldwide, for the simple goal of stimulating it's economy...


A biggot, I dunno. It is more accurate to say....One of us is naive.
But if calling me a biggot makes you feel better about yourself.....I'm good with that



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 10:12 AM
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Originally posted by jephers0n
reply to post by ronnieray123
 


You, "Sir", are a bigot, and are exactly the type of person the OP is talking about. Your post is absolutely ignorant, and proves how brainwashed you really are.

In a perfect world, no one with your mentality would have access to any kind of weapon. You would be in psychiatric help. Alas, high ranks of the military are filled with exactly that mentality. Hence the sad world state.

I don't support what the USSA government does, anymore than I support what the Iranian government does... But I stand by the fact that the USSA should stay within it's own borders, instead of policing the world and creating all these conflicts worldwide, for the simple goal of stimulating it's economy...


just the mere fact that you have taken it upon yourself to declare that you are somehow the person God put on this earth to define morality for all people says a lot about you.
I sir at least had the courage to state my opinion and provide the data that makes me believe this way.
While you offer nothing but insinuations that because you declare yourself so, you are the better man.
There is nothing more noble than the Bill of Rights. If you choose to believe otherwise that is up to you. Have no doubt that if someone was violating yours, despite your refusal to accept these Rights are for all people, I would still stand by your side and do everything I could to insure your right to Life,Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness is not denied you.
But I have my doubts you would do the same for me
Until islam declares these right belong to all people.....I prefer to remain the bigot you have so kindly declared me to be



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 10:17 AM
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Today, the United States contains the highest number of Iranians outside of Iran.

Iranian American
en.wikipedia.org...


Iranian immigration to the United States has been continuous since the 1980s. Between 1980 and 1990, the number of foreign born from Iran in the United States increased by 74 percent.[7] Today, the United States contains the highest number of Iranians outside of Iran. The Iranian-American community has produced significant numbers of individuals notable in many fields, including medicine, engineering, and business. The community chiefly expanded in the early 1980s, following the Iranian Revolution and its abolition of the Iranian monarchy.


Yet if America is so evil, then why do we have the highest number of Iranians outside of Iran?

And why are they seeking asylum?
example

www.religiontoday.com...
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posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 10:46 AM
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So basically OP is formulating a bunch of basic opinions from Iranian people that don't even live in Iran, but Canada. Seems legit.



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 10:51 AM
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Originally posted by Kluute
reply to post by DragonRain311
 


HERE HERE !!! Great OP !

I also apologise for western greed and hate.

Peace and love
K


Please, speak for yourself because you certainly don't speak for the rest of us in the western world. This place (ATS) has an abundance of anti-USA/Israel nonsense and pro-Hitler/Iran garbage. Tell ya the truth, it's probably not even worth trying to argue with you people anymore....But what the hell, I'm bored today.

Are you seriously gonna apologize to a Country that executes homosexuals? Or buries women alive up to their shoulders and then stones them to death for the crime of adultery? Who apologizes to ME, as a woman and a human being, for these events that occur in Iran and throughout the Middle East?

As for the western "greed" card.....Why is the west (particularly the USA) always chastised for our supposed greed yet whenever there is a humanitarian crises anywhere in the world, it's always the USA and the west who contributes the most aid (by far)? Why don't you apologize for the greed of the Mullahs/Kings over in the Middle East? These people live in gold palaces and have grapes literally peeled for them and placed into their mouths while their people live with goats. Not only that, but without the western world, buying their stupid oil at their ridiculous prices they wouldn't even have the goat!

Now, having gotten that off my mind. I will say this. There was a recent PBS 2 hr. documentary where they went to Iran and spoke to the every day people of Iran. The people they interviewed were NORMAL, peaceful, pro-American and not hateful at all...I was very impressed.

The problem, I think is with the LEADERSHIP, not the people. It's a damn shame I tell you.
Maybe when the religious NUTS running these countries are gone we will see some real progress in the Middle East. Maybe woman will have some rights and maybe homosexuals will live without the fear of being executed for something they have no control over.

Now continue with your regularly scheduled program of bashing the USA and Israel......but it's getting really old.



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 10:55 AM
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I have just come back from three weeks travelling through Iran, and had zero problems with the militia, or anything else for that matter. The Iranians were the most friendliest, intelligent and open-minded people I have ever met. The country is beautiful as well, modern and different to how the media portrays it. Most of the people I met there also don not like their government, but its thrown way out of context by western media.
I highly recommend visiting, and I myself will be returning to see parts of the country I missed. Just because two Americans got held for illegally crossing the border from Iraq doesn't mean everyone travelling in Iran runs into problems.



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 11:04 AM
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Seems to me people have repeatedly said the same thing about North Korea......But I think I will stick with my narrow minded, racist view of things for the time being



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 11:11 AM
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Originally posted by ronnieray123

Originally posted by jephers0n
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You, "Sir", are a bigot, and are exactly the type of person the OP is talking about. Your post is absolutely ignorant, and proves how brainwashed you really are.

In a perfect world, no one with your mentality would have access to any kind of weapon. You would be in psychiatric help. Alas, high ranks of the military are filled with exactly that mentality. Hence the sad world state.

I don't support what the USSA government does, anymore than I support what the Iranian government does... But I stand by the fact that the USSA should stay within it's own borders, instead of policing the world and creating all these conflicts worldwide, for the simple goal of stimulating it's economy...


A biggot, I dunno. It is more accurate to say....One of us is naive.
But if calling me a biggot makes you feel better about yourself.....I'm good with that


Nice posting ronnieray. I myself have read The Koran out of sheer curiosity and what you have said is 100% true and backed up in religious text. The "People of the Book" and other religious institutions are told to be disrespected in Muslim culture - yet we are supposed to respect them ourselves (after paying a tax of Jizya, etc.) People who deny these things or call you a bigot simply haven't researched The Koran or what Muslim culture is actually meaning to preach. They are what you describe as people who just "met the Muslim next door." Even that is a joke because The Koran tells you to lie to non-believers that you must be nice to - it tells you to be nice to them in person but "hate them in their hearts." Isn't that great, a religion that teaches you to lie?

It's funny, people say we should preach love and respect to Muslim culture - but if they could have it their way that would be the last thing they would ever show us non-Muslim.

3:28 Let not believers take disbelievers as allies rather than believers. And whoever does that has nothing with Allah , except when taking precaution against them in prudence. And Allah warns you of Himself, and to Allah is the destination
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posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 11:19 AM
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I know the CIA are already working hard at getting Russia to fall out with Iran so that leaves Iran with no close protection when UK attacks them shortly, the whole world soon is going to go up in smoke because USA wants to control all on earth, once the UK have hit Iran for the USA, then the USA will nuke Russia & China, not too sure if Russia and China have the will to hit back the way they are going on, but I fear it will be too late when or if they do hit the west.
The UK & USA are egging Russia on to attack the UK but I cannot understand why this is, as the UK would be safer on the side of Russia & China than with America as friend.



posted on Aug, 10 2012 @ 11:41 AM
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How do you know this? The voices in your head told you so?

What a bunch of paranoid delusions....If anyone has intentions of starting WWIII, it's Iran, as their President has stated repeatedly his wishes to hasten the coming of the 12th Iman and the end of the world.
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