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Kerry Expands slight edge to 3 points over Bush


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Topic started on 11-10-2004 @ 09:48 AM by BlackJackal


Yep thats right Kerry is ahead by 3 points now 47-44 percent over Bush a 2 point increase since Sunday.

Bush support dropped one percent and Kerry's increased one percent.

reuters.myway.com...



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reply posted on 11-10-2004 @ 04:59 PM by slank


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This is encouraging.
Perhaps I won't feel the need to move out of the city after all to get a good nights sleep.
Bush being re-elected makes me feel like we are painting a bullseye on this country. Most especially the cities. As he so Idiotically put it, "Bring it On". Thank you but NO thank you. We will go get the terrorists where they live and not create a vast new pool of terrorists in the process.
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reply posted on 11-10-2004 @ 05:04 PM by MacKiller


Interesting...

What's the margin of error?



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reply posted on 11-10-2004 @ 05:17 PM by Relentless


The poll I am watching appears to be using the same methodology, but they have been doing it longer (the rolling poll) and their samples are greater.

They are showing a quite different scenario, with Bush ahead by 4 points.

www.rasmussenreports.com...

Anyone have a clue?

By the way, if there is any credibility to the Rasmussen Reports, they have a lot more going on than who are you voting for, such as updating the projected electoral points every week, job performance, etc.



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reply posted on 11-10-2004 @ 05:32 PM by Otts


If I remember correctly, the error margin is +/- 3-4 percent, right?

So this race is going to remain too close to call until the end. Especially in individual battleground states - if you're interested in seeing how incredibly close the polls are, look at www.race2004.net and click on the individual "undecided" states. It's amazing.

I think this calls for pizza and beer on Nov. 2. Election nights are like hockey nights for me.



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reply posted on 11-10-2004 @ 06:14 PM by DiRtYDeViL


Long as the media can keep up the illusion that the race is close Bush can steal it. I see Bush / Cheney signs out there in front of closed factories with a Kerry sign by it saying help is on the way. Lol. If you want to know if Bush will win ask yourself why. Why should Bush win the next election, really think about the question cause the man hasn’t done anything but screw up everything he touchs.



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reply posted on 11-10-2004 @ 07:41 PM by fusion360


yes, but people at the same time are saying to themselves, anyone but Kerry. And yet, Democrats are also saying anyone but Bush. It's still way too close. CNN has bush winning the elction if it were held on october 8th I believe it was 301-237, hardly the small margin it was on 2000, but that was before the second debate.



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reply posted on 11-10-2004 @ 07:50 PM by curme


Whoever wins, it's going to be a hellacious next four years, with half the country
not being represented. Bush made it clear during the last debate, if he wins, he won't represent me (damn liberal!) And I fear some refuse to support Kerry, and be represented by him, even if he is the President.



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reply posted on 11-10-2004 @ 08:01 PM by Otts


curme - we are far indeed from the landslides of Ronald Reagan or even the comfortable victory of Bill Clinton over Bob Dole.

What's going to be interesting too, however, is voter turnout. I've told my girlfriend (she lives in San Jose) and all my American friends to vote and tell all their friends to go vote. No matter who they vote for - at this juncture in time, representativity is a BIG issue.

And yes, I'm amazed to see how divided the American nation is right now. And I worry a bit about how the "losing half" of the electorate will react...



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reply posted on 11-10-2004 @ 08:12 PM by specialasianX


Maybe there will be another civil war... seriously though, i have never heard of such arift between to parties which essentially are more or less the same (with smoe minor differences of course)...

Now if the Greens won (impossible i know) or the Liberatarians (unlikely but miracles do happen) then that would make things interesting.... but i doubt this would happen because your people are ignorant that there are other options



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reply posted on 11-10-2004 @ 11:16 PM by Weller



Originally posted by Otts

What's going to be interesting too, however, is voter turnout. I've told my girlfriend (she lives in San Jose) and all my American friends to vote and tell all their friends to go vote. No matter who they vote for - at this juncture in time, representativity is a BIG issue.


You couldn't be more right if you tried. Whoever wins, if it raises the percentage of people who do vote by even 10% I will be a much happier person. We send troops to give others the right to vote and yet we don't even use our own rights to vote in major numbers. Shameful.

If voter turn out hits 60% I might throw a party at my house. If Kerry wins and voter turn out hits 60% I might throw a block party!



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reply posted on 12-10-2004 @ 01:15 AM by Herman



Originally posted by specialasianX
Maybe there will be another civil war... seriously though, i have never heard of such arift between to parties which essentially are more or less the same (with smoe minor differences of course)...

Now if the Greens won (impossible i know) or the Liberatarians (unlikely but miracles do happen) then that would make things interesting.... but i doubt this would happen because your people are ignorant that there are other options


You know..there you go again with this crap. I'm so sick of you calling us ignorant. Really, there isn't as much division as the media portrays. And I know that because I LIVE here. Just because the other parties aren't big doesn't mean that they wouldn't be just as corrupt. I've studied some of them, and I don't like them much either. I just think Bush would do the best job right now.



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reply posted on 12-10-2004 @ 01:27 AM by keholmes


Herman,

you gotta give'em a break, after all howard is back stronger than before, and the communists lost ground (i think) he's stingin' right now.

[edit on 12-10-2004 by keholmes]



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reply posted on 12-10-2004 @ 01:35 AM by heelstone


Australia isn't the one calling the shots. Howard's win there means nothing. The one calling the shots and making the wars is the United States and there is nothing that will save Bush at this point.



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reply posted on 12-10-2004 @ 01:41 AM by keholmes


heelstone

Unfortunately, you might be right, and after Kerry arms Iran with nuclear weapons the world will be a much brighter place. Then we all will find out about the axis of evil.



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reply posted on 12-10-2004 @ 10:01 AM by Bout Time


You mean you've dropped from Team Libertarian & now have come out of the political closet and clearly state your Team Bush affilliation? Congratulations!
The Truth Will Set You Free!!



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reply posted on 12-10-2004 @ 10:06 AM by BlackJackal



Originally posted by DiRtYDeViL
Long as the media can keep up the illusion that the race is close Bush can steal it. I see Bush / Cheney signs out there in front of closed factories with a Kerry sign by it saying help is on the way. Lol. If you want to know if Bush will win ask yourself why. Why should Bush win the next election, really think about the question cause the man hasn’t done anything but screw up everything he touchs.




I just have to point this out to you. The media is definetely not working for Bush, they are working for Kerry. Think about Rathergate and the leaked ABC memo.



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reply posted on 12-10-2004 @ 10:15 AM by Bout Time


THe media made George Bush, because he was clearly the enabler to their desired market monopoly friendly FCC. Mike Powell was the best man for the job!?!? No, he wasn't, if you view the question in America first context.

Ask yourself this: I don't know your age, but when can you remember such record avoidance from a re-election campaign at the presidential level?

Ask yourself this, part II: How many ATS stories are linked from non-US news outlets that have zero mention in US news outlets!?!

DirtyDevil is completely on target - it's all about keeping it close, so that tinkering can win(steal) the day.



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reply posted on 12-10-2004 @ 11:55 AM by Herman


I agree with blackjackal. While Foxnews might be pretty conservative biased, most of the other media outlets are majorly for Kerry and the liberals. Have they done a 60-minute using forged documents about Kerry's shaky vietnam story, and how he won't release his records? They rarely say anything bad about Kerry, while they'll take any opportunity to make Bush look bad. I guess it sells though.



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reply posted on 12-10-2004 @ 11:57 AM by jsobecky



Originally posted by BlackJackal
I just have to point this out to you. The media is definetely not working for Bush, they are working for Kerry. Think about Rathergate and the leaked ABC memo.

Right on. Don't forget that Carville and that other guy from CNN are working as Kerry advisers right now, too, while they retain their positions at CNN.

And don't forget about the false rumors about the draft. I posted an excerpt here from media members that said, and I paraphrase, "whether or not the rumor that Bush is proposing a draft is true is really not important. It is an issue that must be discussed".

Listen to Katy Couric some morning...if you can stomach it. She is such a Kerry suck-up that it is pathetic. Whining through those vacant eyes as if she knows what she is talking about.


from Bout Time
THe media made George Bush, because he was clearly the enabler to their desired market monopoly friendly FCC.

So, lemme see. The media got together and "made" George Bush because he appointed Michael Powell for FCC Chairman because Powell would promote monopolies? Does the fact that Clinton got Powell on the board to begin with make any difference in your conspiracy world?

Chairman Powell was nominated by President William J. Clinton to a Republican seat on the Commission, and was sworn in on November 3, 1997. He was designated chairman by President George W. Bush on January 22, 2001. FCC






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