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posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 08:02 PM
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I know nothing of God, or the Devil. I have never seen a vision nor learned a secret that will damn or save my soul.

Armand the Vampire




posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 08:11 PM
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Originally posted by gortex
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Ok, so what do you believe then?

I believe that these Aliens are Demons threads belong in the religion forum as they are mostly theological arguments based on twisted out of context quotes taken from religious texts .

well said gortex
I choose to believe what I want to believe but I don't run around shoving my beliefs down other peoples throats.



posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by SuperSeaver
I really hate these "Aliens are demons" threads. Sick of hearing Satan is the deceiver who put them... Blah, blah, blah... I look at the title expecting some potentially entertaining and possibly informative post and I get religion shoved down my throat.

Please post this fantasy in the religion forum and please, UFO believers, stop arguing with them and building the post up. Just ignore and let it go away the same as you would anything else you believe to be nonsense. The only reason I'm posting this one is to plead for this ignorance to stop. No one can be proven right or wrong either way. Stop wasting everyones time bu arguing back and forth.

So if you're like me, and many others, IGNORE THESE POSTS. Don't feed them. Thanks.


If you believe that, then ATS serves no purpose. This is a free speech website, if you don't like the topic then simply do not post. Moreover it's a debate site, instead of saying I'm shoving it down your throat you should give your honest thoughts on the thread.

So my question to you what is do you think the aliens are here for?



posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 08:19 PM
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I agree with you seeker. I have seen a UFO, and it was amazing. It was also a huge ball of light. My infatuation with my experience was drawing me away from my faith. There may be other of God's creations out there, but they aren't the deceiving abductors that people are aware of. These are satanic, and as their popularity in our culture grows, more and more are led astray.



posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 08:20 PM
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Originally posted by wildapache

Originally posted by RealTruthSeeker

Originally posted by th3onetruth
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Are you saying nice work because I hit the proverbial nail on the head? I don't mind talking religious talk with people, it is when the religious people cross their line and start witch hunting people over trivial things. Or when the challenger/non-believer/heretic/heathen, whatever you want to call my kind, get to full of themselves. It happens on both sides and both sides need to realize that.

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I don't fully understand what your getting at. If your saying I think I'm full of myself then your wrong. All I have said here is look at the evidence. Apparently the people who post in the Alien section believe in life elsewhere. I'm asking if aliens do exist, what do they want with earth and man?

But again, the E.T believers don't want to talk about that. Something you would think they would want the answer to. But unless you've been contacted by one of these beings you have no idea what their agenda is.





Well the exact thing we want with Mars....Imagine if we happen to discover a primitive life form there.are we gonna be sending more rovers there?possibly sending manned crafts?will that make us demons or satan coworkers?


Lol, it's clear that there is no intelligent life on Mars, at least that is what we are told. Ask yourself this, if man did discover human like life on other planets what do u think our first question would be? Hmm, where did you come from? How did you get here? Do you believe in God? As earthlings these would most likely be the first questions we ask. But what would the aliens say? We created our selves and you, lol.



posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by RealTruthSeeker

Originally posted by binkbonk
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Hmmmmm.... You don't believe in aliens, but, you believe in Satan? Oh? That makes perfect sense (said the Easter Bunny to Santa Claus).



define alien please.


A person, biological entity, from any Planet except Earth.

Does that work for ya. What we are'nt is any sort of demon. Nor are we in any way "evil". We are just people from a different world than yours. Any other view is "racist".
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posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 08:37 PM
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You can choose to ignore such threads if you wish to avoid people shoving such opinions down your throat.



posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 08:40 PM
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Wow, for someone who keeps going on about how 'learned' they are, you're making some massive assumptions in your arguments:


what is do you think the aliens are here for


Assumes that all alien races and all aliens within these races have the same motive.


But what would the aliens say? We created our selves and you, lol.


Do you have any proof that 'the aliens' say this? Or are you just speculating?

What I don't understand is the exclusionary attitude by people on both sides of this argument. Some people say 'there are no aliens, they're all demons'. Others say 'there are no demons, they're all aliens'. Could both entities not exist? Who's to say it has to be one or the other?

Personally I believe there are a lot of non-human intelligences interacting with humanity and human governments. Some of them (I believe) are interdimensional and some are extraterrestrial. Perhaps some of the interdimensional intelligences are what are referred to in biblical and other texts as demons, but I highly doubt that all of them are. Probably some of them are what is referred to as angels, and probably some of them aren't referred to in any religious texts!

But the fact that you can't even see how arrogant a statement like 'anyone with brains can see' is - well, it makes it hard to really accept any of your opinions, whether they are 'solid' (what does this even mean?) or not.



posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 08:41 PM
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Well i think before we even contact them we will probably study them to be sure there is no dangers and risks contacting them.
And since you wanna know what i think of this thread,well i think God as in the Architect of this universe and any others that may exist is NOT AN ALIEN(as in extraterrestrial),but the earthly gods including the judeo christian one are indeed extraterrestrials who have somehow accelerated our awareness but not created us....and i have never been contacted or anything,just reading thousands of pages of sumerian,akkadian egyptian hittite and hebrew history



posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 08:44 PM
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Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

Originally posted by RealTruthSeeker

Originally posted by binkbonk
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Hmmmmm.... You don't believe in aliens, but, you believe in Satan? Oh? That makes perfect sense (said the Easter Bunny to Santa Claus).



define alien please.


A person, biological entity, from any Planet except Earth.

Does that work for ya. What we are'nt is any sort of demon. Nor are we in any way "evil". We are just people from a different world than yours. Any other view is "racist".
edit on 8-8-2012 by AnthraAndromda because: (no reason given)


I might get in trouble for saying this, but it has to be said. As one pointed to debunk my opinion. Why is every alien in human form White? At least those are the reports of their description.



posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 09:03 PM
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You are right. I believed 20% of what Dr. Wolf said. He appeared to have inside information, and appeared to be disinformation. Then his brother debunked him. I really liked some of the things he had to say. I really did. I think he was an abductee - almost positive. So maybe we should listen to him even though he thought of himself sort of like the S4 scientist, I forgot his name.



posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 09:04 PM
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Originally posted by TheStev
Wow, for someone who keeps going on about how 'learned' they are, you're making some massive assumptions in your arguments:


what is do you think the aliens are here for


Assumes that all alien races and all aliens within these races have the same motive.


But what would the aliens say? We created our selves and you, lol.


Do you have any proof that 'the aliens' say this? Or are you just speculating?

What I don't understand is the exclusionary attitude by people on both sides of this argument. Some people say 'there are no aliens, they're all demons'. Others say 'there are no demons, they're all aliens'. Could both entities not exist? Who's to say it has to be one or the other?

Personally I believe there are a lot of non-human intelligences interacting with humanity and human governments. Some of them (I believe) are interdimensional and some are extraterrestrial. Perhaps some of the interdimensional intelligences are what are referred to in biblical and other texts as demons, but I highly doubt that all of them are. Probably some of them are what is referred to as angels, and probably some of them aren't referred to in any religious texts!

But the fact that you can't even see how arrogant a statement like 'anyone with brains can see' is - well, it makes it hard to really accept any of your opinions, whether they are 'solid' (what does this even mean?) or not.


There are only two motives when it comes to these beings, they are either good or evil, there is no in between. I don't channel these beings so I don't have solid proof, but there are thousand of others who have, and they all seem to relay the same message, and for some reason that message is that the Bible is wrong. Kinda strange that these beings make that a point when asked about our beliefs.



posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 09:13 PM
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Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

Originally posted by RealTruthSeeker

Originally posted by binkbonk
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Hmmmmm.... You don't believe in aliens, but, you believe in Satan? Oh? That makes perfect sense (said the Easter Bunny to Santa Claus).



define alien please.


A person, biological entity, from any Planet except Earth.

Does that work for ya. What we are'nt is any sort of demon. Nor are we in any way "evil". We are just people from a different world than yours. Any other view is "racist".
edit on 8-8-2012 by AnthraAndromda because: (no reason given)


I suppose you can cut the religious zombies some slack here. This sort of hate speech and prejudice is quite common coming from the mouths of many fundamentalist preachers, who also believe that every natural calamity on earth is caused by "the sinners". They are the opinions of people who lack much reasoning ability.

It will be interesting to see how these people adapt when they eventually have to deal with the physical reality of ET alien beings on this planet.



posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 09:18 PM
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Originally posted by wildapache
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Well i think before we even contact them we will probably study them to be sure there is no dangers and risks contacting them.


You do realize that we send spacecraft to places like Mars without any worries of being seen. We just pop into their atmosphere without care, hoping to discover new life outside our own. But I guess if we land in the right spot no one would see us.



posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 09:25 PM
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Originally posted by bluestreak53

Originally posted by AnthraAndromda

Originally posted by RealTruthSeeker

Originally posted by binkbonk
reply to post by RealTruthSeeker
 
Hmmmmm.... You don't believe in aliens, but, you believe in Satan? Oh? That makes perfect sense (said the Easter Bunny to Santa Claus).



define alien please.


A person, biological entity, from any Planet except Earth.

Does that work for ya. What we are'nt is any sort of demon. Nor are we in any way "evil". We are just people from a different world than yours. Any other view is "racist".
edit on 8-8-2012 by AnthraAndromda because: (no reason given)


I suppose you can cut the religious zombies some slack here. This sort of hate speech and prejudice is quite common coming from the mouths of many fundamentalist preachers, who also believe that every natural calamity on earth is caused by "the sinners". They are the opinions of people who lack much reasoning ability.

It will be interesting to see how these people adapt when they eventually have to deal with the physical reality of ET alien beings on this planet.



When E.T shows up you can bet there will a great falling away from the faith, this has already been predicted, that's how we know it's a deception. It's called " The Great Apostasy".



posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 09:31 PM
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When E.T shows up you can bet there will a great falling away from the faith, this has already been predicted, that's how we know it's a deception. It's called " The Great Apostasy".


My mom is very religious and I asked her one time what it would mean for her faith if aliens landed. She didn't say that they were demons, she didn't even blink when she said, "It wouldn't change a thing, God made them too."
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posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 09:40 PM
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It will be interesting to see how these people adapt when they eventually have to deal with the physical reality of ET alien beings on this planet.


I think we are "seeing" that now. Denial, prejudice, demonizing. All the things that a scared empire needs to do in the conditioning of its people to reject everything "outside". I mean, hell, we are already here, and the reaction to us? Deny the reality of their existance! If anyone speaks out; they are delusional, liars, etc.

Personally, I'm tierd of it. I would like a simple little thing that all Terrestrials take for granted, and deny me...my real identity. Oh, well ...



posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 09:46 PM
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Why is every alien in human form White? At least those are the reports of their description.


We are? All white I mean.
In my expirence ET comes a a variety of color. Sort of pink like Terrestrials (rather common actually)., to a sort of "meh" grays, Greens, Blues, Browns. Aldebarans are nearly "white", sort of. Its their planet and star ...not quite like Earth (thats common too).



posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 10:06 PM
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This just in; the earth is flat because the Bible says so.

It's like Tommy Lee Jones says in Men In Black. 'A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it. Fifteen hundred years ago everybody knew the Earth was the center of the universe. Five hundred years ago, everybody knew the Earth was flat, and fifteen minutes ago, you knew that humans were alone on this planet. Imagine what you'll know tomorrow.'

Just because the Bible talks about all this deception, and Satan, and 7 headed monsters coming out of the ocean, doesn't mean any of it is true. You have been deceived by a book that was written by hundreds of men, and edited by hundreds more, all spaced apart by hundreds of years. If that stuff was written now, it would be laughed at as the fiction it is (L. Ron Hubbard).



posted on Aug, 8 2012 @ 10:20 PM
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I believe aliens are here to confuse the masses and convince us to unknowingly worship the devil.

No

The answer is "I don't know".

No one does.

Does this mean it's SATAN?

No.

I have absolutely no beef with religious people, to each their own. I just wish you would stop calling aliens demons. Stop fearing what you can't explain or understand and stamping DEMON on it please. In the meantime, try to look up in the sky and realize that the universe is one with all of us. Demons only exist in the hearts of mankind.

That is my answer to the question "to you what is do you think the aliens are here for?"

Thanks.
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