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reply posted on 8-8-2012 @ 09:41 AM by Destinyone
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I highly doubt this story. IF, it were true. Use it in Washington DC, so they'll stop thinking Obama is God.

Des


reply posted on 8-8-2012 @ 09:47 AM by Haknow
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I think we must distinguish religion from spirituality here. Religion is a series of codified beliefs, rites and institutions led by men, and yes it can lead to atrocities.

Spirituality, on the other hand, is human beings' ability to have faith in something greater than themselves. It is, in my view, a force for good.

Destroying this ability, in my understanding, would be to destroy a defining part of what it means to be a human being. Whether or not one is religious is, I think, another matter.


reply posted on 8-8-2012 @ 09:50 AM by solongandgoodnight
Originally posted by Haknow
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I think we must distinguish religion from spirituality here. Religion is a series of codified beliefs, rites and institutions led by men, and yes it can lead to atrocities.

Spirituality, on the other hand, is human beings' ability to have faith in something greater than themselves. It is, in my view, a force for good.

Destroying this ability, in my understanding, would be to destroy a defining part of what it means to be a human being. Whether or not one is religious is, I think, another matter.
a fair point, but one usually ends up going into the other.


reply posted on 8-8-2012 @ 09:52 AM by Haknow
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Agreed that Press TV is not always the most reliable source. However, I encourage you to watch the video (linked in the OP) released by anonymous - this is the original document upon which is based the article.

It is chilling to say the least.

As for using it on the entire human race...yes, I would also say that this would be the ultimate "end game". Of course, they would start by only using it to neutralize "terrorists"...but as the definition of that term is getting pretty loose these days, I bet it wouldn't be long before they start using it on Tea Partiers as well.


reply posted on 8-8-2012 @ 09:54 AM by Haknow
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Have you watched the video? Curious to have your take on it.


reply posted on 8-8-2012 @ 09:56 AM by miniatus
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Keep in mind that Anonymous could be ANYONE .. there is no official anonymous hacker group .. there's instructions out there on how to make your own video .. all you need is a camera if you want to be in it yourself.. or just some video editing software with the proper tts voice as well as a decent script..

In other words it could be legit information .. or it could be someone who's got a conspiracy theory using the voice of anonymous to spread the conspiracy.. Ie. .. could be NOTHING..

I tend not to believe this particular conspiracy.. when anonymous has legitimately hacked documents they are inevitably released with the press release via torrent sites and direct downloads to spread the information rapidly .. They would not just post a youtube video which would be shut down already if it contained any factual, leaked information.



reply posted on 8-8-2012 @ 10:01 AM by miniatus
Originally posted by Haknow
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post by Destinyone



Have you watched the video? Curious to have your take on it.


I've seen it .. and it's not at all in the style of anonymous .. for one they've simply taken an old anonymous video and dubbed over it with their own human voice.. it's absolutely not a legitimate anonymous video .. whether the presentation itself is legitimate or staged I have no idea.. but notice how few people are actually IN the room?

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reply posted on 8-8-2012 @ 10:01 AM by fairguy
Originally posted by Haknow
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post by fairguy



I think we must distinguish religion from spirituality here. Religion is a series of codified beliefs, rites and institutions led by men, and yes it can lead to atrocities.

Spirituality, on the other hand, is human beings' ability to have faith in something greater than themselves. It is, in my view, a force for good.

Destroying this ability, in my understanding, would be to destroy a defining part of what it means to be a human being. Whether or not one is religious is, I think, another matter.


If religion had never been forced on us all, from birth, for generations, we may understand having more faith in other humans. As it is now however, I don't see many religions falling due to some new machine.

Religion is indoctrined in us (I hate using that word ) and we have been more or less programmed (another one I don't like using) to shut down and belittle anyone who decides one day to start questioning the status quo.

I think you're correct when you say it shouldn't matter whether someone is religious or not, what should matter though, is that when someone tells me they're a christian, or hindu, or whatever religion, I don't start telling them they're wrong, but when I respond with "I'm not really religious" or words to that effect that I'm instantly dismissed as a lunatic!

"What? You don't believe in god?"
No I don't, but I won't put you down if you do.
"HEY EVERYBODY. THIS GUY DON'T BELIEVE IN GOD!"
...


reply posted on 8-8-2012 @ 10:05 AM by Haknow
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I take your point that Anonymous could be anyone - that's both its greatest strength and its greatest weakness as an instrument for truth.

Yet, I am not so sure this is not genuine. I was particularly interested in the screen ID/denomination in the video:

DOD ID 149AZ2
LOC Pent rm 232

Perhaps these could be a way to verify the video?

I also think that, in a twisted and grotesque sense, it would make sense for some of DARPA or other agencies scientist to develop this kind of weapon...Some people are, after all, conspiring to hopelessly enslave the human race - a weapon like this one would, as another member has said, be "our final undoing" as a race.

I wouldn't be too quick to dismiss this one, if only because the subject is too important to rush to conclusions.
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