"Right-wing extremist terrorism as deadly a threat as al Qaeda?"

The problem is that it isn't just 'our' (socieities) interpretation of this particular guy that shot up the sikhs as being a right wing nut / extremist - that is the way he sees himself.
Putting that to one side though if you look at his beliefs, or what is reported to be his beliefs, its pretty clear that he does hold extreme right wing views. And that at least some of those views will be shared by other right wingers, even if they disassociate themselves from his actions.

More than this it really does appear that certain concepts, hatred of government, paranoia, dislike / hatred of the Other (foreigners etc), dislike / hatred of non christian religion are shared by right wingers who could take extreme action. That the constitutional rights are pointed to, particularly with reference to 'militia' etc is for me is a real concern.

I disagree with any kind of political persecution, but I do see the extreme right as more of a threat to society, than others on the political spectrum at the moment....

For me right wing extremism is currently a threat to US society, although I don't think they are as dangerous as al Qaeda. I don't actually think that al Qaeda is much of a threat right now

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racist anarchists, sounds about right.

i just had to get it out that nazi's, and neo-nazi's has absolutely nothing to do with the so called "right wing".

most especially nothing to do with the conservative movement trying to restore sanity in this country.

the left loves to label the right as nazi's for some reason, when the traditional nazi is far left.

Ok wait...let me get this staight....


There has been over 162,000 murders in America since 9/11 and someone has wrote an article about how deadly right-wing extremist are (worst than al Qaeda) since they have killed 9 during that same period?

Am I missing the main point here?

Originally posted by Bilk22

Originally posted by miniatus

Originally posted by bjax9er
just so that everyone is aware,

nazi's, otherwise known as fascists, comes from the left wing.

That's the Nazi party though of the 30s and 40s... the neo-nazi movement doesn't seem to be very aware of that.. most of them tend to be in it just because they are white supremacists by night and riding around in pickup trucks by day with rebel flags.. Many of them don't care about the government and I'm pretty sure less about socialism .. I don't seem them as a "lets share the wealth" movement ..

Skinheads aren't Nazis. They're dangerous idiots. The Nazis and Fascists are in the WH and Congress and are the liberals that are running this country into the ground.

Wow... way to totally piss on the spirit of this thread.

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What spirit does it have? The people in Washington are using suspect events to corral us like sheep and I need to respect that?

Originally posted by Bilk22
reply to post by Cuervo

 

What spirit does it have? The people in Washington are using suspect events to corral us like sheep and I need to respect that?

Dude, did you even read the thread? This is about how it's not so good to do label all psychopaths into one political group (defending people like you, by the way) and then you come in and call all lefties Nazis. You are doing the exact same thing I'm telling people not to do to you.

Originally posted by freethinker123
The problem is that it isn't just 'our' (socieities) interpretation of this particular guy that shot up the sikhs as being a right wing nut / extremist - that is the way he sees himself.
Putting that to one side though if you look at his beliefs, or what is reported to be his beliefs, its pretty clear that he does hold extreme right wing views. And that at least some of those views will be shared by other right wingers, even if they disassociate themselves from his actions.

More than this it really does appear that certain concepts, hatred of government, paranoia, dislike / hatred of the Other (foreigners etc), dislike / hatred of non christian religion are shared by right wingers who could take extreme action. That the constitutional rights are pointed to, particularly with reference to 'militia' etc is for me is a real concern.

I disagree with any kind of political persecution, but I do see the extreme right as more of a threat to society, than others on the political spectrum at the moment....

For me right wing extremism is currently a threat to US society, although I don't think they are as dangerous as al Qaeda. I don't actually think that al Qaeda is much of a threat right now

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Again, fringe idiots with guns are not right wing or left wing. They're just fringe idiots that are being used by the extreme left to take away every one of our Constitutional privileges. The msm who mostly leans left, puts that lable on these people and then ties them into the Republican party by virtue of the idea that the right defend the 2nd amendment. This is just disgusting, but we deserve what we get because we put the bums in Washington.

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Text"Right-wing extremist terrorism as deadly a threat as al Qaeda?"

Of course they are, why do you think the drones are flying around in the USA for...its sure not for the Muslims, it’s for the white terrorist that exist in the USA, first the movies and now a holy place of worshipping.

Can’t got to the movies, and cant worship god...what more are these terrorists going to do inside the USA.

Im really scared !

Originally posted by Cuervo

Originally posted by Bilk22
reply to post by Cuervo

 

What spirit does it have? The people in Washington are using suspect events to corral us like sheep and I need to respect that?

Dude, did you even read the thread? This is about how it's not so good to do label all psychopaths into one political group (defending people like you, by the way) and then you come in and call all lefties Nazis. You are doing the exact same thing I'm telling people not to do to you.

Yeah dude I read the thread. All two pages of it. Defending people like me? Come back again?

So let me get this straight "right wing extremist terrorism" is as deadly as radical religious fundamentalist who like to fly planes in to buildings and strap bombs on to women and children?

That right?

That is what Bergen says?

The same Bergen who wrote this trash?

peterbergen.com...
peterbergen.com...
www.motherjones.com...

Seems Bergen can't make up his mind just another bash the evil right wingers.

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Any time someone goes on a shooting rampage it's a "Right wing extremist"

Even though the latest, at the temple, was a self professed Socialist. A Socialist who didn't like anyone who wasn't white or anything other than Christian.

I don't know how that is considered "Right Wing?"

Stupid media..

Obama, under his watch, increased poverty in america to where almost half of americans are poor (making 20,000k or less) I say the president is the real terrorist, a economic and financial terrorist, a dream distroying terrorist, inslaving our childern to the bankers debt terrorist! A class warfare terrorist. Hes ObamaHood, stealler of liberty. In government he trusts.

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Right-wing, left-wing, most everyone here is an "extremist" in one way or another.

The police could stop you in your car and if they find a box of raisins, you could be labeled a "vegan-extremist".

I give the official *raspberry*

pbtpbtpbtpbptpbtpbptpbt!

I would say an ever growing, and under trained police force is more of a threat than both of those groups combined.

Originally posted by miniatus
My biggest fear is this .... after 9/11, people who wore turbans and/or looked middle eastern became targets of vioelence in the US after 9/11 .. many innocent people hurt or killed..

I'm a shaved guy with pale skin.. as nice as can be, would help anyone.. I have tattoos ( mostly kanji ) .. Makes me wonder if I'm going to have to start watching my back because someone assumes I'm a white supremacist .. I should probably start dressing in business suits and wearing glasses..

Dont do that. Men in business suits in many ways have damaged this planet and its people in ways that fringe elements can only dream of.

I've been preaching this for awhile.
Extremists are extremists.

I get especially worried when you couple the fact
that Obama is most likely going to get re-elected
and the billionaires who oppose him are realizing that.

Back a billionaire extremist in the corner and you have the potential
for big sparks to fly. Especially if the billionaire decides to hire
mercs to do their "terrorism".

What is a left-wing extremist? It would be interesting to see how many murders are committed by Chicago, Detroit, NY thugs and criminals who voted Democrat. They are purely leftist and qualify for the title using the same definition as a right wing extremist. No?

Makes sense to me... wasn't it a particular group of right wing extremists called Neocons who decided defense spending was down, wars were needed, and so helped facilitate 9/11? Aren't the neocons the original terrorists who hated our Freedoms?