'Swimming upstream,' white supremacist groups still strong

(CNN) -- Hundreds of white supremacist groups are active in the United States today and are experiencing a kind of resurgence, experts say.

They are in the spotlight this week in the wake of a deadly shooting at a Sikh temple outside Milwaukee. Authorities have said they are looking into whether the gunman, who was killed, had ties to such a group.

"I know they're out there. I try not to alarm the public too much, but it's something that really needs to be taken a hold of now because more and more we see facts coming out that this is happening more often and more often, and it's not going to stop anytime soon," said David Gletty, who worked as an undercover informant on extremist groups for the FBI.

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There are now over 1000 hate groups and that number is growing.

We were warned about these hate groups back in 2009 but the political backlash from both sides of the political establishment choose to bash the report and those warning of this.

Remember the DHS report about Veterans being recruited to Right-Wing terrorist groups which was leaked and led newly appointed Homeland Secretary Janet Napolitano to initially defending the report but later having to apologize and withdrawing the report after she was thrown under the bus by her own party (Bennie Thompson, Congressman from MS) & severely criticized by Republicans.

April 2009

The Washington Times released a story on April 14, 2009, that said, "The Department of Homeland Security (DHS) is warning law enforcement officials about a rise in 'rightwing extremist activity,' saying the economic recession, the election of America's first black president and the return of a few disgruntled war veterans could swell the ranks of white-power militias."

Is this a taboo subject here in the USA? Can we expect more racist based terrorist attacks?

From Think Progress, July 27th 2011, Ben Armbruster writes in an article headlined - After Right-Wing pressure, DHS now has 'just one person' dealing with Domestic Terrorism. The greatest threat of large-scale attacks come from individuals and small groups of extremists who subscribe to radical Islamic or far right-wing ideologies, said Gary LaFree, director of the National Consortium for the Study of Terrorism and Responses to Terrorism, or START. Gary Ackerman, Research Director at START, said nationally, law enforcement has been focused since the attacks on the World Trade Center and Pentagon in 2001 on the threat of Islamic terrorism, even as the threat from domestic anti-government groups has been growing. “Some people believe we have taken our eye off the ball when it comes to domestic right-wing extremists,” he said.

It has now been confirmed that the Oak Creek, WI Gurudwara (temple) mass murderer Wade Michael Page was indeed a veteran, White Supremacist, Neo-Nazi and leader of a white power music (?) band called End Apathy. I wish the Obama folks would pull out the DHS report and send it to Boehner and the other Repubs and demand an apology but but that would be politicizing a tragedy right?

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reply to post by LDragonFire


You must be mistaken...racism is a thing of the past.

Isn't that what the Right Wing says...that anti-discrimination laws are no longer needed because racism no longer exists???


/sarcasm

They can have a million hate groups and they still wont do nothin but bark online n stare with their mouths shut in person..... y they are still being acknowledged is what i wanna kno...

They are still growing because we have not eradicated ignorance among the masses. When we do that, we won't have this issue anymore.

Most of the folks don't have the cajones to do what they say they would. The few that do should be put down to stop the spread of hate, murder, ignorance, etc.

It's sad to see that this still exists and is growing though. One would assume folks would learn how to think and act for themselves after a while instead of just regurgitating what their small minded parents have spoon fed them from birth.

reply to post by dayve


You must live in a really nice place if you actually believe that. I witness racism in public pretty frequently.

reply to post by OutKast Searcher


Yeah it's just the right wing people who think that racism is gone...way to generalize all of the republicans...so shall we say that all black people are criminals because some black people commit crimes? You are casting a very big net when you say the right or the republicans...not all of them feel that racism is gone..the issue becomes how it gets addressed and having laws are not going to get rid of racism it only curtails it momentarily to give the illusion that it has gone away...it's very difficult to change a persons thinking and it sometimes takes generations....so we can have all the laws we want but for young white kids growing up not exposed to racism who now see themselves at a disadvantage for education or because hiring quotas may view society through a different lens...lets just have one big love fest mix up the races and see what happens...

There are racist groups from all races and cultures. It just so happens that the white racists groups get the most publicity.

Originally posted by Bodhi7
reply to post by dayve

 

You must live in a really nice place if you actually believe that. I witness racism in public pretty frequently.

I live in hillbilly central, I've been called all kinds of racists **** by rednecks while theyre in their moving car/truck. They're always scared. Let them say it to my face, i dont care if im by myself outnumbered im taking a few of them out with me, since thats the only time it will/has happen anyway.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by LDragonFire

 

You must be mistaken...racism is a thing of the past.

Isn't that what the Right Wing says...that anti-discrimination laws are no longer needed because racism no longer exists???


/sarcasm

Kinda like "anti-white" racism doesn't exist, right?

Nonetheless it's a shame and, often times racist groups are used as a scapegoat to fit the agenda. Maybe sometimes people don't like each other just because they don't like somebody, regardless of melanin content?

I hope that no more racist acts happen! Hate groups?! I just don't understand why people hate another race so bad,when we are all the same! I live in Mississippi,and honestly I have not experienced racism. But when I travel to Memphis,TN that's a different story. I grew up in a family,well not my parents but everyone else in my family is racist,and I can't stand it! Everyone needs to increase the peace and get over it! We are all the same! And what does hating help? Nothing!

Just a little question. How do we know it was racially motivated and not religiously motivated? I'm assuming for the moment that he was sane and not under the influence. A veteran? Then let's also assume there was no PTSD.

reply to post by charles1952


Does it matter which it was? Is it acceptable either way? Is one any less foul and vile as the other? I am not saying that you think there is a difference just questioning whether the two are really all that divisible. This man formed a band named "End Apathy" because he felt the White supremacist movement did alot of talking and less acting than it should. That pretty much sums up that for him this path was just a matter of time. As far as PTSD, well he wasn't a combat vet and was kicked out of the military.

Originally posted by chrismarco
reply to post by OutKast Searcher

 

Yeah it's just the right wing people who think that racism is gone...way to generalize all of the republicans....

edit on 7-8-2012 by chrismarco because: (no reason given)

I do not think that they belioeve that racism has gone the evidence is far too obvious. They may yell that it has gone but the end result is the same the "iIn groups" still benefit and exclude the hated minority or minorities. History is also rewritten by these people also.

isnt the biggest group the military..

under Z rothschild/rosengberg direction?

reply to post by LDragonFire


WTF? Why would Republicans have to appologize for this nutcase? For starters, having not a damned thing to do with the guy, must I point out yet again that NAZI'S ARE SOCIALIST. Or Fascist if you want to be technical, though Fascism is just Socialism with patriotic fanfare.

Left wing.

Not right.

reply to post by KeliOnyx

Dear KeliOnyx,

At first, I was just thinking about the universal assumption on this thread that it was a race murder. I wondered about that. But you've raised an interesting question.

Does it matter which it was? Is it acceptable either way? Is one any less foul and vile as the other?

I'm going a little off-topic here, but yes, both are very bad, but I think Racism is worse. If you hate someone for their religion at least you hate them for a choice they have made. They had no choice on their race.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but I find it a little unusual that the police say they are having trouble finding a motive. They report no journals or diaries in his apartment. The claim that he had a 9/11 tattoo turned out to be false.

So I guess I completely agree that it was horrible, but I don't think we know why it happened.

With respect,
Charles1952