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Originally posted by windword
Originally posted by Ophiuchus 13
sometimes you got to let others post their points as to not interfere so takes back seat sometimes
Thanks for "letting" us post our opinions. You are displaying true Christian grace!
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by artistpoet
Lies can indeed be productive. Allow me to iterate two examples to you. One is fabricated, the other a true story.
There is a man and a woman, and they have been happily married for 30 years. However, long ago before they were married but were seeing each other, the man had cheated on her. Only once, and never again. He tells her finally, because he's been carrying the guilt around for all that time. This marriage would have lasted until death, but all of it was destroyed in the moments it took to confess. Had he not told her, those last years of his life would have been spent with the love of his life. That skeleton was the only thing that ever went wrong. Should he have not told her?
The true story goes thus. There is a boy who was born to a woman who was seeing a man. That man was not the boy's father. However, he thought it was...until the boy was a teenager. Finally, the mother came out with the truth. The result? The boy was disowned. No, that boy was not me; however, a friend of mine told me about the boy because we were having a discussion very similar to this thread. The boy was cast from his family because of the truth. Would it have been better to lie by omission?
These are the cases I present to you, as proof that sometimes the truth does more harm than a lie. Now I ask that you answer my question: which is better for the world, a productive lie or a destructive truth? Remember, the productivity and destruction are simply our reaction to each.
What do you think?edit on 8-8-2012 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by lambs to lions
reply to post by randyvs
I love this response, very fitting and it wouldn't surprise me a bit if it were an accurate assumption. God does indeed have a sense of humor.
I get you - Why destroy anothers belief if you can not offer something better
And if God is love, and if love to BE love must be absolutely free, freely given, freely recieved, freely chosen,
what then, if that same freedom also allows the opportunity to hate (as many do) and to choose what is wrong or what is bad (sin)
that's quite the predicament, even moreso for God
We are only JUST beginning to come into an understanding of what it means and signifies, so our ignorance can be excused, for a while..
so you have a point, to a degree, to the degree that something else, which you haven't considered nor been willing to research enters into human history as a resolution to the paradox for BOTH man AND God, and as a point of invitation and of attraction like a fine pearl adorned above the gate of a great city, and one which also invites us to enter and in the process also become a pearl, like a spiritual evolutionary principal on the path of progress towards an ideal of perfection.
Thing is, when you pull it out and read it aloud to the court, it contains a great cosmic joke that you knew nothing about!
Originally posted by AfterInfinity
So really, we were MEANT to go to hell. That's what logic tells me. Our destiny, wherever we end up, heaven or hell, is fulfilled. So why choose?
asically you are encouraging others to give up on a spiritual journey we all MUST accomplish ALL* with that its SAD to see you TRY and degrade Christians for trying their best as if your their tester, natas YES THE TESTER NATAS... IMAGINE YOU AS WELL ARE ARE BEING TESTED AS YOU ARE & YOU JUST SAT BACK AND GAVE UP why trying to take others with you, SMH. So a hell may just be a smh SECONDARY SCHOOL for the learning impaired souls who wish to be rebellious & ignorant. THE LOVE OF THE CREATOR HAS SET IT UP FOR YOU TO EVENTUALLY GET YOUR ETERNAL SOUL INTO ASCENDING ONCE YOU ACCEPT ITS LOVE AND ITS GOD(S) SENDS LIKE JESUS CHRIST. With that take a few moments to absorbe what I am saying I am not attacking you as much as I am warning you as a fellow CREATOR CREATION to try and accept the LORD thats all. HELL for many can be as simple as being LEFT BEHIND under the control of A NEW OVERLORD WHO MAY KNOW THE CREATOR EXIST FIRST HAND and who knows how to manage human flesh and souls... The price to pay for SIN is with the flesh SO imagine many on EA*RTH leaving in spirit/or flesh and YOU were left behind to become a slave or even worst a farm animal OUTSIDE THE PROTECTION OF THE LORD THEY HAVE YOU AS THEY WISH. This PHASE OR PHASES OF LIFE AND DEATH WITHIN EXISTENCE DEPENDING ON HOW SOUL IMPAIRED SOME ARE WOULD SEEM LIKE A HELL. So ALL I am saying is STOP HATEN ON ANY RELIGIONS THEY ARE TRYING ATLEAST...
So ALL I am saying is STOP HATEN ON ANY RELIGIONS THEY ARE TRYING ATLEAST...