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Originally posted by g0dhims3lf
reply to post by Itisnowagain
This moment that is happening presently is the truth
You are the dreamer and what you see and experience is all dream.
In that case your logic is flawed and this moment is a lie since I do not know that I am dreaming.
I am the liar that holds the truth
keeping it from myselfedit on 8-8-2012 by g0dhims3lf because: (no reason given)edit on 8-8-2012 by g0dhims3lf because: added quote
people get caught up in the religion aspect of God or whatever you would like to label God as. chances are all religions are probably talking about the same God. The vantage points look different as this is human nature.
Originally posted by randyvs
Because Jesus Christ died not for my sin, but for me, a sinner.
And the thought of seeing him, disintegrates all fear of death. Yet there are many who fail to understand the simplicity of this positive concept. For in their own carnal reasoning, they declare that such a silly belief, ( belief in Jesus Christ ) surely must reside with men because they do indeed fear death. Seeing no objective evidence, where only objective evidence makes up this material ( perceivable to the five senses ) world.
On the flip side of this negative view ( disbelief in a here after ) these same people either fail to realize or simply ignore one certain fact. That being, that if one eliminates mans spirituality, when one eliminates God, from the equation of life ? A succession of positive structure eliminations must soon follow. God is love. Eliminate God from your life and you eliminate the very source of all love.
I have seen this time and again and I must without naming names say, that I have seen it in a self endeavored discussion with an atheist, right here on ATS. No not you Mr. XYZ., even you aren't that neg. But here is the exact quote.
" Then love doesn't exist either "
So anyway although I fall short of welcoming the end of this life. I do look forward with great anticipation at the end of my days because I believe death is a doorway. And through that doorway we are all, going to see God. And we all ( every human being who has ever lived ) together, will drop to our knees, at the very sight of his awesome beauty and gentile power.
For he is nothing like the human mind can even imagine, in it's present degenerative state. And we will confess of our own free will, that Jesus Christ is Lord. It won't be something anyone is forced to do. It will be a confession to self for all who spent their days on earth believing the lies of wicked men. Are there not wicked men ? And an affirmation of thankfulness, for those who managed to find and know and hold on to him. through the labyrinth of life. Just relax your mind and listen.
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Originally posted by mac420
The Bible is a book written by man, nothing more. It has just as much historical accuracy as the Quran, The Bhagavad Gita, Homer's Odyssey and Harry Potter. Using any of those books to prove the existence of any of their characters is like proving Aliens exist using a photoshop picture.
And I love how theists like to claim humility, by claiming they have the one truth. That isn't humble, that is being full of yourself. There is mountains of evidence to support evolution, and not one shred of evidence to suggest any divine entity did anything to aide it.
And as a kicker, your signature is by an atheist, and you're using it wrong.
Wrong. Freedom rules,
God is a point of attraction, not repulsion, for those who understand.
Your position is based in ignorance (not knowing what you don't know).