Define Christianity as Hate - The New Homosexual Agenda

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posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 09:20 AM
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Originally posted by wittgenstein
Trust me, I used to be a "mind game Jedi" myself. I know all the tricks. However, I find that boring now and only use my special powers in emergencies and only for truth justice and the American way!

Calm down and start walking in rhythm!


I don't know what you're talking about. But, I know people have a tendency to look for "themselves" in other people.

I just respond to the posts of the moment, with whatever seems appropriate at that time.


I guess most of what I say here is being missed entirely by some, who think something else is being said or done instead.

I myself am surprised at what a few people will take offense at, while eagerly attempting to offend in return, its all quite amusing, and somewhat entertaining. I guess that's part of the motivation for participating.




posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 11:09 AM
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I have a sincere question for you that I'm extremely curious to learn. When was the last time, if ever, you've ever had a thought of your own? One NOT seeded into you by the church.



posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 12:45 PM
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I guess most of what I say here is being missed entirely by some, who think something else is being said or done instead.


Oh, I'm pretty sure I understand the majority of your posts, very much so. The problem is accepting your beliefs. I quite frequently have to fetch a bottle of aspirin just to deal with the headaches your bigotry and ignorance gives me.

...Beer helps a bit too. Not too much of it though, or else I start feeling sympathetic towards your off-brand of logic.
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posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 05:05 PM
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This thread has become absurd! So I will show my true allegiance!!!
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posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 05:10 PM
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I'd really like to see other Christians post as well, I want to hear their point of view as well.

I've had a couple devout Christian friends throughout my life, one was a Catholic priest, and they all were warm, loving and welcomming people full of respect and ever treating of others with human dignity. Not only were they aware that I was not a Christian but they were also aware of me as a transgender person. At no time did either of us impose upon one another and infact we had some rather fun and interesting dialogue and we spoke freely and respectfully. I believe this reflects the majourity of the Christian community.



posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 05:44 PM
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I believe this reflects the majority of the Christian community.

I don't


Has not been my experience anyways.

Well let me qualify that. The majority have been nice and cordial people that I have met but the majority still have these religiously based discriminatory beliefs and vote as such... so I guess it depends on how were looking at it.

That said, I think it's wonderful that's been your experience



posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 06:34 PM
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I've had my own experiences as well which have been rather nasty. I used to have a great deal of anger in my heart and it caused me to pause and think about a great deal many things. I found that hostility is potent in its image and loud, it easily drowns out those who are not hostile. Hostility polutes the mind and makes enemies seem like legions and it unjustly lashes out at those who would be one's friends, or atleast those who would not be our enemies.

I am well aware that there are many who disagree with us but this is not exclusive to Christians. People have a right to think and feel however they want, I think our issue should be with people who take that to the next level and impose on the rights of others. That is where my issue is.


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posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 07:05 PM
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Originally posted by Arles Morningside

I found that hostility is potent in its image and loud, it easily drowns out those who are not hostile. Hostility polutes the mind and makes enemies seem like legions and it unjustly lashes out at those who would be one's friends, or atleast those who would be non-hostile.

That resonates with me. I feel I am quite good at keeping it friendly. I have been guilty of allowing an unwarranted amount of hostility to overshadow what could have been a friendship or at least a cordial exchange. More or less that's pretty foreign for me. Ive lashed in this thread, but one cannot always be a monk when accused to the extent herein. Perhaps I mean more outside the forums.


I am well aware that there are many who disagree with us but this is not exclusive to Christians. People have a right to think and feel however they want,

I know that I separate myself in this regard from many members as I am very much not respectful of culture, tradition, religions, simply for the sake of it. I am not a moderate. Those 'co-exist' stickers that have all the religions give me headaches. I need to evaluate the merits of them in respect to an ideal...each time for each one. I don't agree with suspending ones own sense of morality in respect to other 'cultures, traditions, religions' simply because most feel it's properly respectful to do so. For instance I don't respect the whole of the Islam faith and culture if a part of that is needless suffering of women...as one example.


I think our issue should be with people who take that to the next level and impose on the rights of others. That is where my issue is.

To continue along what I said above.... I think if we honestly evaluate these harmful actions, namely with the LGBT discrimination, and trace the lineage of the beliefs that give rise to these oppressive actions they will primarily be religious. Regardless of whether it's manifesting through a religious person today. In one regard I very much agree and understand the need to address the tangible (the actions), but addressing root cause is an ideal. We need to appreciate actions spring from beliefs. I am not suggesting something tyrannical like burning churches or locking the religious up
But I feel being a vocal opposition to their immoral beliefs is a goodness. Through discussion and debate first and foremost.
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posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 07:37 PM
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I very much enjoy your posts and I agree, we shouldn't stand aside when someone's rights are being violated and we do need to be vocal. I definately agree with that, including examining the root causes and helping to educate people. I think an important part of this process should also be to bridge build as well.


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posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 08:29 PM
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Originally posted by Stormdancer777

I have never heard hate towards gays preached at church, in fact I have never heard it mentioned..
Plus just because they don't believe in gay marriage doesn't mean they "HATE GAYS" either,

You people don't think Christians have gay relatives and children?


You may not see it in your church, but it happens in plenty of other churches. The pope himself said gays will destroy the world and compared them to the KKK. American Christians encouraged Uganda's kill the gays bill.

Pastor Curtis Knapp says the government should kill gays, cause it's in the bible.


Pastor Worley suggests we should round up every gay and surround them by electric fences until they die off.


Some have their kids get up in church and sing anti-gay songs, and the entire crowd loves it.


One pastor beat up his own gay son in church


Here's another one for the hell of it. I could keep going but i think the point has been made



posted on Aug, 19 2012 @ 09:22 PM
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Defining Christianity as Hate is not The New Homosexual Agenda; it is The Awakening of The Human's Soul Agenda, because any person with a soul or an ounce of compassion KNOW - not believes but KNOWS that the stuff in there is not good at all - and there are some people that actually defend the actions of this so called God.

Whether or not this "God" exists is irrelevant, it is just disgusting that people think that the actions described in the bible are "OK" if they are coming from a more powerful being.

Many people are cowards, and many people have no problem living their lives following someone else or someone who they believe is a "God"



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 03:27 PM
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Joe.My.God's Joe Jervis Receives Hanging Threat for FRC Tweets


BY Camille Beredjick - August 20 2012

Gay blogger Joe Jervis of Joe.My.God reports he received death threats after tweeting information about the Family Research Council's history of hateful activism.

After last week's shooting at the headquarters of the conservative Family Research Council, Jervis tweeted out links to examples of the organization's antigay efforts and, later, its president Tony Perkins's association with white supremacist groups. He also tweeted, "Remember how the FRC and all the rest declared it a 'badge of honor' to be called a hate group by the SPLC?"

www.advocate.com...



posted on Aug, 20 2012 @ 06:23 PM
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I've often made that arguement myself. Because it is the Bible, people will often overlook what is there or excuse it but if you put it in a different setting, it is difficult to not draw a disturbing conclusion, for example, say I summon an entity and it makes the same demands and statements as the god of the Bible, one then sees the disturbing nature of it.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 12:10 AM
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Originally posted by Agoyahtah

After reviewing these medical reports, how could anyone think that gay sex, for example, is natural?


What is natural?

Is it natural to drive a car?

Man has a mind, which he can use to overcome all limits imposed on him.

All those medical problems you point out just make doctors happy.

Because man has desire to break through his limits, he needs science to help him and to sustain him on his choises.

So what if homosexuals suffer from lots of special medical problems? All that means is that doctors make more money, get to do more kinds of research, and science progresses because of the new knowledge found.

So, yes, gay sex destroys the anal sphincter. But, do you know that because of this, doctors have invented special reconstructive surgical techniques to make an artificial sphincter to replace the natural one?

This is a tremendous advance for science. We're moving towards the bionic man. Look at these new feet:



animaland-ecotone.blogspot.ca...


These artificial feet are superior to the natural foot in some ways. So, while today, most people would prefer the natural foot, in the future we may all be cutting off our feet just to wear one of these cool artificial limbs.

Don't get stuck in the past.

If there's a God, he created man with a mind to think for himself.

Man is redesigning his body, and using it in novel and unique ways. And everybody is profiting and benefiting from this.

Homosexuals get to do what they want, doctors get more patients and make more money, science advances, and we all move ahead.

It's the same reason cigarettes were never banned. Sure, cigarettes make people sick, but then that illness creates a whole industry of doctors, nurses, pharmacists, etc..that all profit from this, and all this activity drives the economy. So, cigarette smokers get to do what they want, and capitalizing on the effects grows the economy.

Let people be free, don't try to suppress anything, work it into the profit paradigm instead.

In the end, the activities that produce the highest profits should become the preferred activities.

Let profit define behavior. Everyone is happier that way.



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 12:22 AM
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So, yes, gay sex destroys the anal sphincter. But, do you know that because of this, doctors have invented special reconstructive surgical techniques to make an artificial sphincter to replace the natural one?

I hadn't gotten around to it, but I was going to respond to his post about anal sex. I think you will see his post was inaccurate and misleading to say the least.

That said, we need to be clear gay sex ≠ anal sex. Gay sex can include anal and vaginal penetration, oral, and everything else that constitutes sex. Whether through body parts or toys. Not every gay person, man or woman, does anal sex.

I very much appreciated your post though and it highlighted a key point. That medicine and technology can heal/fix health issues that might occur as a result of sex.

The issue ultimately isn't unsafe sex, it's the fact STDs exist to begin with...as one example. I know that seems bizarre for some, but I think it's the best way to look at it. If not just to put everyone's heads in the game and contribute to disease research and development. Root cause.
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posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 01:38 AM
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Did NO ONE read my posts,, especially the last few before this,, long ago,,
where I urged everyone to quit feeding the Monsters

they only come out to play when you feed them and engage them with enticing words of wisdom.

Throw Not Your Pearls Before the Swine,,

For those whose Ears are not Plugged with gobs of Old Man EarHair,,, let them hear,,

Quit Feeding them and they will go away.

I have learned through this thread that One should not use Logic with those who toss Logic out with the bathwater.

Jesus Christ people let's quit banging our heads against those that have Harder heads.


Miss Some of You !! Others,, Nah!!



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 03:30 AM
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Originally posted by EarthCitizen23
Did NO ONE read my posts,, especially the last few before this,, long ago,,
where I urged everyone to quit feeding the Monsters

Hey I encouraged the same.

I have read every single post in this thread. Literally every one lol


Jesus Christ people let's quit banging our heads against those that have Harder heads.

Many lost souls. But we hope others will join in on the discussion!



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 04:30 AM
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If adulterers were organised they would accuse Christianity as hate too. If thieves were organised and campaigned to make theft legal they would define Christianity as hate too. If those who enjoyed bestiality got organised, lobbied government and campaigned for equal rights, they would label Christianity as hate too.

If you are not comfortable in what you do, then you eliminate anything that reminds you it's wrong and try to make your environment as friendly to your dysfunction as possible so you feel more comfortable. That’s what insecure people do, even insecure Christians. If you are secure in who and what you are, no one can ever offend you.

Homosexuality that DEMANDS that no one disagree with it is a psychological issue not a sexual one.
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posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 04:57 AM
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Originally posted by pacifier2012
If adulterers were organised they would accuse Christianity as hate too. If thieves were organised and campaigned to make theft legal they would define Christianity as hate too. If those who enjoyed bestiality got organised, lobbied government and campaigned for equal rights, they would label Christianity as hate too.


And by all means those groups of people should voice their opinion and society should way their merits (if any) and judge accordingly. Each one individually.


If you are not comfortable in what you do, then you eliminate anything that reminds you it's wrong and try to make your environment as friendly to your dysfunction as possible so you feel more comfortable. That’s what insecure people do, even insecure Christians. If you are secure in who and what you are, no one can ever offend you.

I have no idea what that meant. I want to know, please paraphrase for me.


Homosexuality that DEMANDS that no one disagree with it is a psychological issue not a sexual one.


What is homosexuality demanding agreement of?



posted on Aug, 21 2012 @ 05:31 AM
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If you don't understand it - you don't understand it...! No amount of breaking it down will make sense.





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