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Originally posted by murphy22
reply to post by kimar
Your being absurd! You want to know were Jesus says it? He says it in the bible. There, you have the address start your journey....If you really "want to know." Believe it or not, God's word even made it to Google.com argue with them about it!
What are you people really looking for? A Jesus quote that says it's ok? You won't find one in the bible! So you may as well leave the bible out of it.
And what are you really mad at the Christians for?... Because we believe the bible?..... We won't rewrite it to your liking?....Like some claiming to be "Christians" already have?.... We wont add to or take from? Sorry folks, That's kind of why we are called Cristians.
Why do you even bring up the bible if you do not believe or agree with what it says?...... To convince us it's wrong?....... Or to prove to us you don't understand it?.....We already know the latter.
There is an answer in the bible for just about any question you can have regarding this subject. The problem is it is so simple you/they can not understand it, or refuse to. This is a waist of time. The bible talks about some people... "being willingly ignorant"..... "Having ears they hear not".. and...."For this, he turned them over to a reprobate mind, for they retained not god in their knowledge, to do those things that are unatural......"
Here is the deal! God in his word defines clearly, what:
1. Is "NATURAL"
2. "LOVE" is.
3. a "FAMILY UNIT" is.
4. a "SIN" is.
5. How, When and Who to "LOVE"
OH! it could go on and on..........and on.
You can't even understand the "Thou shalt not" parts. Why would anyone continue and allow themselves to be drug into a much deeper conversation?
I do not say much about g's and l's untill they bring God/Jesus into it. You can't argue with god's word which is what you want Christians to do. Which would defeat the purpose of being Cristian.
Originally posted by pajoly
Anyone who says the "bible" is the word of God is deficient mentally.
Originally posted by maes2
Originally posted by MamaJ
Op I think you have a good heart and Im saddened you believe being born gay is a sin.
I grew up with a girl whomI knew at an early age, she was gay. My cousin and I asked her over the years and she would say no, she was not gay. As she grew older she knew she was different .. And gay. She didnt ask to be born with an attraction to ONLY women just as you didnt ask to be born with an attraction to the opposite sex.
In my opinion my gay neighbor is a sweetheart. He cuts my hair for free and sings like an angel! He didnt ask to be born feeling as though he is a woman.
God has a plan.... And in this plan maybe reproduction needs to slow down, maybe he is testing the judgemental children.... Who knows but the heart does not lie and please have some acceptance and love for the ones who are different, no matter what! Jesus said God is love. Love does not judge.
as I know people are born male and female not Gay! and of course some have none of them but they can become male or female these people are rare and they have physical problems.
so I add this to your judgment God has created Adultry to boost up population
and now want to slow it by homosexuality !
are you sure that was God that created Adultry and homosexuality!edit on 7-8-2012 by maes2 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by PrinceDreamer
reply to post by LadyGreenEyes
1. Jesus IS the Word. He is God, and everything contained is His word. Now, you can choose to accept that or not, but that is the position that a Christian takes.
Ok say I accept this as fact, please show me anywhere that Jesus said homosexuality is a sin, just one example of him saying it will be fine, just one. Don't quote me the old testament, give me one quote where Jesus says it, after all from your quote it says "Jesus IS the word, he is GOD, and everything contained is His word." Oh and by the way, I really hate to question your understanding of Christianity, but do you really believe Jesus is god? Is he not actually meant to be the son of god and not god himself/herself?
Originally posted by wittgenstein
“Yes, it IS a real issue, and case after case after case can be read about online where basic freedom OF religion is denied to Christians. Happens all the time. yes, there are laws n some countries (like Canada) that make it illegal to preach the Bible, when it comes to homosexuality.”
I honestly do not know about Canada, but here in the US your point has no validity.
Originally posted by wittgenstein“It would be nice if the liberals would actually support freedom for all, not just those that agree with their point of view.”
And how is voicing your opinion an infringement on your opponents rights? Ironically using your “logic” fundamentalist pastors that condemn homosexuality are practicing hate speech, that denies freedom to their opposition! I say they have the right to spout any nonsense they want. However, their opponents have the right to show that fundamentalists are actually followers of the anti-Christ, in that their Christ is the opposite of Christ and his message.
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They are the most hateful and judgmental large group of Americans today. They refuse to live and let live, rather they follow a ideology that is not faith-based, but rather proclaims itself the one and only truth and demands they convert everyone. They are EXACTLY equal to Muslim extremists given their way.
How many of you honestly think that if they were given the chance, that evangelicals would entirely restructure society and law based on its narrow (and twisted) interpretation of the bible? They will do it in a heartbeat if we allow it.
Originally posted by something wicked
People have asked when Christ (upon whom Christianity is based) said that homosexuality is not a bad thing, and the response appears to be because he stated marriage is between a man and a woman. What exactly does that prove?*snip*
Originally posted by something wickedBy the way, people seemed to be quoting Sodom in this thread. Sodomy is obviously derived from Sodom, but the term means anal sexual intercourse which is not limited to homosexuals and homosexuality is not specificly mentioned with regards to Sodom as far as I'm aware.edit on 8-8-2012 by something wicked because: typo
Originally posted by WTFMAN111
given their contribution to defiling the language and tainting the language for this giant game with quite a lot of it around my warped messed up scripted like life... I say kill em all! Like trashing the word gay and defiling the rainbow which turned something awesome like taste the rainbow into a disgusting tainting the image of one of the most beautiful women... i think... its so gross this game i kind of want to die as they just wont stop it man... North america is a giant disgusting continent of vile perverse masonic freakshow and other secret societies of the most vile ..... EVER and my life about certain people and nuclear bombs and such is extremely disturbing. even worse is its like getting away from the stunted being, finding a few minutes of mental silence then it shows up again like an adhd child that should be ejected into space and thrown into the sun as for the most part all it does is make me think the same god damned stupid stuff over and over again like THEY ----------- who your wife is supposed in there you know!!!!!.... I hate the god damned thing. someones gotta know how to end this stupid thing and how to get he hell out of this reality as north america is extremely disgusting place once you notice there IS something out there and it can mess with your mind and actions. its not funny! Given how much homos and old ugly warp paint women got in the path to wreck things when i was like screw this im leaving and was going to go to the other side of the world, id say it one of them or a reallym essed up guy whose been setting up my life in an ause session in waves of getting worse as time goes on. its not funny. but anyways.... get me outtta here!
Originally posted by Dreine
This very same 'Bible' was inspired by God, written by many men over the centuries, then canonized by Constantine at the Council of Nicea.
To say that every word in the Bible is God's... I think is a stretch. The fog of history obscures a lot of what we should actually know about the Bible. Things like, why is the Book of Enoch included in the Ethiopian Orthodox churches but not the Roman Catholic or Protestant ones? Can we EVER be certain the Bible that we have is the one that God truly meant for us?
Doubtful. Man craves power and control. Hence organized religion, and hence a canonized book of scripture. I think almost everyone is walking blind at this point (herein comes faith), and only a personal and honest search for the truth of your individual relationship with God and Christ is the way to salvation... not Constantine's stamp of approval.