ok, in a sense of open-mindedness, i now have to wonder, since you claim black ppl are arrested way more often ... which may be true ... in my region, the majority of cops are also minority persons of one kind or another, so, what does that mean ??
Black people are arrested WAY more often then white people, even tho statistically crimes committed are equal between wht/ltn/blk generally. However, people of color have the most intense accountability for their actions compared to white offenders.
Be more open minded.
Originally posted by Wildbob77
reply to post by smyleegrl
So when a minority group excels in the US it is because of their culture.
But when a minority group lags behind, it is because of white privilege holding them back?
Originally posted by James1982
Anyhow, here is number one:
1. I can if I wish arrange to be in the company of people of my race most of the time.
The same goes for minority groups. Nothing is stopping them from having a social circle of their same race. At work, I as a white person am not able to avoid associating with those outside my race (nor would I wish to) so I fail to see any legitimacy to #1.
3. If I should need to move, I can be pretty sure of renting or purchasing housing in an area which I can afford and in which I would want to live.
This has absolutely nothing to do with race. This has to do with financial security. Next.
4. I can be pretty sure that my neighbors in such a location will be neutral or pleasant to me.
This isn't something that can be assured for people of any race, social class, religion, age, or gender.
6. I can turn on the television or open to the front page of the paper and see people of my race widely represented.
This is true for me as a white person. Aside from the fact that there are at least two black TV networks I'm aware of, numerous black magazines, and tons of black websites, a black person would have no problem watching TV or reading media targeted for them. But that's not the issue. Whites are the majority in this country. Notice he said "widely represented" and not "fairly represented" Black people account for about 13% of the population of the USA. Judging from the TV channels I watch, well over 13% of the people I see in advertisements are black. It only makes sense that the majority would be represented more than the minority.
Originally posted by James1982
7. When I am told about our national heritage or about "civilization," I am shown that people of my color made it what it is.
Absolutely. When people are taught the history of the US in school, they all learn about slavery. It is well understood that black people made major contributions towards the building of this nation, albeit not by choice at that time. The fact that slavery was a negative part of history is made perfectly clear. When discussing civilization in general the big ones that pop out to me are the Egyptians and Sumerians. Neither of them are my race, and I don't take issue with that. Whites didn't built the Egyptian or Sumerian civilizations, why would we be represented when discussing them?
10. I can be pretty sure of having my voice heard in a group in which I am the only member of my race.
Honestly to me this sounds bad. It makes it sound as if he believes his race to be so important that even in a group where nobody else was white everyone would recognize his opinions as important simply because he's white. Even if true, which I honestly doubt, who's fault is that? This is totally down to the group you are with, and has nothing to do with race.
12. I can go into a music shop and count on finding the music of my race represented, into a supermarket and find the staple foods which fit with my cultural traditions, into a hairdresser's shop and find someone who can cut my hair.
I think you will find most all music shops carry music from almost every race and culture out there. Is he implying there are a large number of music stores that only carry "white" music? What does that mean anyway? Rap and Pop music, which are currently some of the most popular types, represent different races extremely well. If he means authentic cultural music, I think that would be more difficult to find regardless of your culture. Again, no white privilege here.
13. Whether I use checks, credit cards or cash, I can count on my skin color not to work against the appearance of financial reliability.
I'm not sure if I just have such an inferior intellect compared to this man that I cannot understand what he means here, or he is being intentionally vague as to say basically nothing at all. I've had plenty of people money-pen 20s that I've given out, if that's what he means....
16. I can be pretty sure that my children's teachers and employers will tolerate them if they fit school and workplace norms; my chief worries about them do not concern others' attitudes toward their race.
The number of teachers who are going to discriminate against a student for not being white has got to be incredibly low. Any instance of a teacher going against a student because of their race would most likely make headlines and end with the teacher being removed from the classroom.
17. I can talk with my mouth full and not have people put this down to my color.
I think he is just making things up now. Honestly, like I said I think he's giving is a glimpse into his own bigoted mindset than exposing some grand conspiracy of white privilege.
20. I can do well in a challenging situation without being called a credit to my race.
Where in this country would that be deemed acceptable to say to someone or any race?
21. I am never asked to speak for all the people of my racial group.
I can't even recall how many times I've been asked "what do white people do/think/etc about this or that" while involved in conversations with people outside my race. I think it's fairly common when in doubt about another race to ask a member of that race. Who else would you ask?
22. I can remain oblivious of the language and customs of persons of color who constitute the world's majority without feeling in my culture any penalty for such oblivion.
Bzzzzt. Wrong. Other than the scores of jobs I've wanted to apply for that require me to be bilingual (spanish) Other than that, why on Earth as a citizen of the US should I have to know how to speak the language and be knowledgeable of the customs of other countries? Which ones? ALL of them? I know the language and customs of the country I live in. When/if I go to another country I make sure I know their customs to the extent I don't do anything offensive. I also do my best to speak their language. I can assure you if I MOVED to another country I would totally be expected to learn their language and customs.
23. I can criticize our government and talk about how much I fear its policies and behavior without being seen as a cultural outsider.
Absolutely false. I think you fellow ATSers are well aware that regardless of skin color certain people look at you with a raised eyebrow when you "go against the grain" as it were.
25. If a traffic cop pulls me over or if the IRS audits my tax return, I can be sure I haven't been singled out because of my race.
How can I be sure of that? On the flipside, how can a minority know they WERE singled out because of their race?
30. If I declare there is a racial issue at hand, or there isn't a racial issue at hand, my race will lend me more credibility for either position than a person of color will have.
Wow... really? This is again total BS. The thread I was talking about here on ATS proves this. When minorities bring up race they are coddled and agreed with. When white people bring up race they are ignored and ridiculed. He couldn't possibly get more wrong.
32. My culture gives me little fear about ignoring the perspectives and powers of people of other races.
Load of bull. White people are constantly worried about appearing "racist" or offending people of other races. Wrong wrong wrong.
35. I can take a job with an affirmative action employer without having my co-workers on the job suspect that I got it because of my race.
Uh.... yeah. That's because employers aren't forced to higher white people. Therefore there is no suspicion from coworkers that's how you got the job. If there were no such thing as affirmative action then there would be no such thing as people getting suspected as being an AA hire.
42. I can arrange my activities so that I will never have to experience feelings of rejection owing to my race.
Yeah... so can minorities. He's admitting that there are times where whites will face rejection due to their race, and he just doesn't do those things. Minorities can do the same thing.
44. I can easily find academic courses and institutions which give attention only to people of my race.
Huh? What? Academic courses and institutions that ONLY allow white people? Can't think of any. Academic courses and institutions that cater to minorities? PLENTY of them! Did he even think before making this list?
46. I can chose blemish cover or bandages in "flesh" color and have them more or less match my skin.
Yeah, so can black people. They are called Ebon-Aide. Think I'm joking? Look it up. Standard "flesh" colored bandages are going to work for the majority of people. Whites, Asians, some Indians, their skin tone is close enough the bandages will basically match just as well for them. It just makes good business sense to sell a product that will appeal to the majority of people. So what's the issue?
50. I will feel welcomed and "normal" in the usual walks of public life, institutional and social.
There are tons of reasons a person would feel unwelcome and abnormal throughout life, a few of them are racial, but this also applies to white people. It all depends on what groups or people you are associating with, so there is no upper hand for being white. Whites can deal with being left out because of their race, too.