Curiosity Has Not Landed - But Is Good Entertainment For The TV Brain Washed Masses

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posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 04:22 PM
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You can agree all you want with mark1167, that does not make it right. The Mars science lab project is a longtime in the making, while for instance, London was only awarded London 2012 on 6th July 2005, (the day before the London bombings in fact) the MRO was only launched then, they were still testing all components in 2010 and 2011 for MSL, and even delayed the launch for MSL then. It doesn't sound like perfect choreography timewise, does it. BTW, a deal of the equipment for the MSL is very much a co-operation of various countries who will have their own protocols, for the use of. That means they are all in on the 'scam' or just more of the brain washed.
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posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 04:22 PM
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Originally posted by karen61057
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You must have missed this in the news last week. They have photos showing the shadow of the flags moving as the sun moves. Up until now they were not sure if the flags had survived but it appears that they are still in working order as far as flags go.

articles.nydailynews.com...

I already touched on that, but it might have been in the other thread.
Note: just in time to make this mars thing believable.
See, we landed here looky!!

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That's what I'm saying!!
All of the hi def garbage we got out there, google maps can show nekked folks in their backyards, we know civillian tech is not cutting edge, but .gov is.
Why do we have no better pics of the landing site??
Star to ya!



posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 04:36 PM
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well, at first we def have the technology to enter space, an we



posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 04:51 PM
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Correct none of us can confirm it is the truth, but that does not mean that it isn't so I'm afraid. We have the tech to do it. It could well be a hoax, but I'm leaning to that being less than 1% likely the case.



posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 05:07 PM
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Why oh why is there yet another hoax landing thread.. first the moon, and now mars.. I understand people dislike and distrust the government but there are some things we're capable of doing.. It's as if people invent some of these conspiracies out of thin air because they've got nothing better to do ..

I believe the moon landings are real because the landing sites have been imaged by Russian and Chinese missions.. they are NOT our pals .. they have ZERO reason to back up a hoax of ours .. and if the moon wasn't a hoax, which was done in the 1960s! .. why would I think the mars missions are?

Another point is that people believe missions to mars when it suits their thirst for conspiracy.. look at all the people claiming to see faces and structures on mars.. they have no problem believing those are real.. it's absolutely nuts if you ask me.. Same with the moon.. you have those that think we never went there, then you have those that somehow think that video of the Apollo astronauts walking through an ancient alien moon base IS real ..

I guess the key to dreaming up a sufficiently popular conspiracy is to come up with something that is against the official story .. you could probably make it about anything and get some believers... I've thought about doing that here on ATS just as an experiment... but I just refuse do that lol
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posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 05:08 PM
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Originally posted by Fox666
Imagine the sky is fake. The stars. The planets.

How would our government keep this hidden? How would they trick us Humans, into FALLING for such a grand conspiracy???

Fool the majority of the people, and you fool them all. Because Humans only care about what the Majority thinks.

Thats why Christianity is thriving while Atheist make up 2% of the U.S population. Group thinking instead of self thinking.

This thread should have tons of stars. But doesnt because no one wants to admit they are being tricked. No human wants to admit defeat. They would rather BELIEVE in a lie, than question the TRUTH.

Mars is millions and millions and millions of miles away from Earth (says science)

Same Mars rover, same perfect landing, same crappy pictures...............NASA has been doing this for years.


Instead of denying the conspiracy, its time to start thinking WHY they are doing this. Strap an iphone on that sucker and lets see some HD landscapes you false flag fairies.




Originally posted by Samuelis
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Reality usually proves stranger than fiction. Sure, it would be one hell of a conspiracy. I think it would make sense that our world and surroundings are fake. To what extent is anyones guess, but imagine if the planet was much, much, much much bigger than we are told. Or if planets even exist. It would be one huge hoax. We dont know the tech "they" have. Why is antarctica so heavily guarded. Try and sail there without permission and see what happens. Nuclear US base being set up in Perth?? What exactly would perth be covering? A threat from africa? yeah right



Originally posted by Samuelis
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I wasn't talking about your avatar.


jokes aside. There's no harm in some nutty thinking at 2am in the morning. If I told friends and family about flat earth then I would obviously be a downer.



Originally posted by crawdad1914
A few people have referenced the cost of the Curiosity Mission as being wasted for various reasons.

2.5 BILLION spent on the Curiosity mission is less than the cost to manufacture 2 B-2 Stealth Bombers. The overall B-2 development program cost over 50 billion dollars. The cost in flight time for the B-2 pushes 155,000 per hour.
Annual US military expenditure worldwide is close to 1.7 trillion annually, that equals in cost a few thousand curiosity missions.

Just giving some perspective.


I love how yal think. All the info in those post alone show how it is definitely plausible its hoax.

Now Imo hers why they would fake it and keep everything hush hush..If you think about it the rapture, project blue beam, and all the other false flag # what would be the best explanation for if millions of people disapeared in a rapture or some sort of event..All the gov would have to do is say hey look at all these new images and stuff we kept secret for security "Aliens" are real and there responsible for the disappearances etc etc.. and then the nwo can get easily ushered in..its quite simple really..Excellent thread great post s n f



posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 05:12 PM
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The only reason I think that NASA would hoax this mission, and mind you, I firmly do NOT believe they hoaxed it .. would be

1. To save money, not wanting to spend 4 billion on this project..
2. To capture America's attention and increase public morale ..

With that said .. 4 billion is a drop in the bucket when it comes to the overall government budget.. so that doesn't really mean much.. and #2. Well that has proven to be very viable ... I still don't think it's true though.. we're ABSOLUTELY technically capable of doing it and the project cost wasn't very high, all things considered.. NASA is one of the lowest funded government agencies.



posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by miniatus
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The only reason I think that NASA would hoax this mission, and mind you, I firmly do NOT believe they hoaxed it .. would be

1. To save money, not wanting to spend 4 billion on this project..
2. To capture America's attention and increase public morale ..

With that said .. 4 billion is a drop in the bucket when it comes to the overall government budget.. so that doesn't really mean much.. and #2. Well that has proven to be very viable ... I still don't think it's true though.. we're ABSOLUTELY technically capable of doing it and the project cost wasn't very high, all things considered.. NASA is one of the lowest funded government agencies.



Yeah I get what your saying that makes since, but whether its real or not the general public won't ever know if they find an artifact,ruins,life,fossils etc etc..its just going to be kept a secret all we get to see is garbage quality pics of dirt and rocks, that I could go film on earth.. If I didn't know how nasa and tptb were scum than I would believe whatever nasa and MSM tells me and not question it one bit but until they give the public strait answers I'll keep coming up with conspiracy theories lol



posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 05:23 PM
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Originally posted by HumanitiesLastHope

Originally posted by miniatus
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The only reason I think that NASA would hoax this mission, and mind you, I firmly do NOT believe they hoaxed it .. would be

1. To save money, not wanting to spend 4 billion on this project..
2. To capture America's attention and increase public morale ..

With that said .. 4 billion is a drop in the bucket when it comes to the overall government budget.. so that doesn't really mean much.. and #2. Well that has proven to be very viable ... I still don't think it's true though.. we're ABSOLUTELY technically capable of doing it and the project cost wasn't very high, all things considered.. NASA is one of the lowest funded government agencies.



Yeah I get what your saying that makes since, but whether its real or not the general public won't ever know if they find an artifact,ruins,life,fossils etc etc..its just going to be kept a secret all we get to see is garbage quality pics of dirt and rocks, that I could go film on earth.. If I didn't know how nasa and tptb were scum than I would believe whatever nasa and MSM tells me and not question it one bit but until they give the public strait answers I'll keep coming up with conspiracy theories lol


I'm not so sure about that.. I think if they found ancient ruins (like our ancient people would build), they would make it public .. there's nothing in religion even that forbids the possibility of life or ancient alien civilizations on other planets.. I don't think it would even cause mass panic .. but the possibility of finding life on the planet is slim to none.. scientifically speaking, the only thing they will find on the surface is some evidence of organics to show that life was once possible .. and if life DOES exist on that planet .. it's going to be under the surface where liquid water could be ( and I think liquid water probably is ) ..

The only thing I think they would hide is if they found a vessel or some form of advanced technology.. and that's because it could provide a valuable advance in technology for the USA over other countries.. but ancient rock ruins wouldn't provide that.. neither would finding some ancient fossil of martian bacteria.
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posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 05:36 PM
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Originally posted by Atzil321
I don't want to laugh or ridicule. After reading this I just feel kinda sorry for you.....
2nd line....


This a good reply. I really could figure out what to write but yours sums it up...it's too bad really. I got up and watched it (in MD). All those geeks sure looked excited! Some acting for a fake landing. I thought it was brilliant! I kept thinking, we could have had people on that that thing and they would have landed safely. I know we're a ways off. I hope I live long enough to see humans land but... At 57, I don't know.



posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by Komodo

Originally posted by magma
Imagine what you could achieve if you used your talents in a productive way.

Just imagine


and flying to Mars to see a lifeless plantet we could have looked at thru our telescopes/Hubble.....

is productive??? How.. ?


I am always amused by the "what good will come of it" viewpoint. Look around. Everything you see is a product of science, exploration, inquiry, endeavour. Much of the technology we take for granted came off the back of scientific pursuits just like this.

I'll just leave this here:





posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 05:40 PM
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I do think we landed. Humans have come to the realization that our time on Earth is limited. As a species,we need to be able to move on and off Earth. These are the first baby steps to this end.



posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 05:49 PM
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It seems the majority here are not very capable of basic logical thinking.

IMO, and I think OP feels the same, the onus is on the person making a claim, not the skeptic.

NASA has an ugly track record, anyone who just blindly accepts what they show you as legitimate evidence is begging to be deceived.



posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 05:49 PM
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No one on the earth can Prove that Nasa has landed the new Curiosity Rover on Mars period.


And No one on the earth can Prove that Nasa has NOT landed the new Curiosity Rover on Mars period. For the most partm I believe you on this. We are allllll suckers.
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posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 05:50 PM
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Originally posted by miniatus

Originally posted by HumanitiesLastHope

Originally posted by miniatus
reply to post by HumanitiesLastHope
 


The only reason I think that NASA would hoax this mission, and mind you, I firmly do NOT believe they hoaxed it .. would be

1. To save money, not wanting to spend 4 billion on this project..
2. To capture America's attention and increase public morale ..

With that said .. 4 billion is a drop in the bucket when it comes to the overall government budget.. so that doesn't really mean much.. and #2. Well that has proven to be very viable ... I still don't think it's true though.. we're ABSOLUTELY technically capable of doing it and the project cost wasn't very high, all things considered.. NASA is one of the lowest funded government agencies.



Yeah I get what your saying that makes since, but whether its real or not the general public won't ever know if they find an artifact,ruins,life,fossils etc etc..its just going to be kept a secret all we get to see is garbage quality pics of dirt and rocks, that I could go film on earth.. If I didn't know how nasa and tptb were scum than I would believe whatever nasa and MSM tells me and not question it one bit but until they give the public strait answers I'll keep coming up with conspiracy theories lol


I'm not so sure about that.. I think if they found ancient ruins (like our ancient people would build), they would make it public .. there's nothing in religion even that forbids the possibility of life or ancient alien civilizations on other planets.. I don't think it would even cause mass panic .. but the possibility of finding life on the planet is slim to none.. scientifically speaking, the only thing they will find on the surface is some evidence of organics to show that life was once possible .. and if life DOES exist on that planet .. it's going to be under the surface where liquid water could be ( and I think liquid water probably is ) ..

The only thing I think they would hide is if they found a vessel or some form of advanced technology.. and that's because it could provide a valuable advance in technology for the USA over other countries.. but ancient rock ruins wouldn't provide that.. neither would finding some ancient fossil of martian bacteria.
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Well I could show you how via example of main stream scientist archaeologist and museum curators try to not touch on or deal with the ancient astronaut theory. We all know that when you look at ancient astronaut theory and look at all the supporting evidence it quickly goes from theory to fact..So with that being said thats why I think they would lie and cover up if they find any type of ruins artifacts life etc..Also one more tad bit of food for thought without me sounding to crazy let me ask you 2 questions. Have you ever been to mars? Do you know if its uninhabitable? For all we know mars is just as habitable as arizona,the mojave, or the sahara dessert...Just saying.



posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 05:55 PM
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I'm not so sure about that.. I think if they found ancient ruins (like our ancient people would build), they would make it public .. there's nothing in religion even that forbids the possibility of life or ancient alien civilizations on other planets.. I don't think it would even cause mass panic .. but the possibility of finding life on the planet is slim to none.. scientifically speaking, the only thing they will find on the surface is some evidence of organics to show that life was once possible .. and if life DOES exist on that planet .. it's going to be under the surface where liquid water could be ( and I think liquid water probably is ) ..

The only thing I think they would hide is if they found a vessel or some form of advanced technology.. and that's because it could provide a valuable advance in technology for the USA over other countries.. but ancient rock ruins wouldn't provide that.. neither would finding some ancient fossil of martian bacteria.


Yes, thank you! NASA would certainly release photos of anything resembling civilization on Mars ... for the resulting windfall of funds if nothing else ... besides, since scientists are (nearly) as human as everybody else, i'm sure that most would gladly give an eyeball to put their names on such a discovery ...



posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 06:15 PM
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Originally posted by raiders247
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It seems the majority here are not very capable of basic logical thinking.

IMO, and I think OP feels the same, the onus is on the person making a claim, not the skeptic.

NASA has an ugly track record, anyone who just blindly accepts what they show you as legitimate evidence is begging to be deceived.


yes, the onus is on the person making the claim -- and in NASA's case, the claim here is heavily supported from many directions.

As skeptic here, you go far beyond doubting this mission -- to the point where it is you who are making claims that need support ...

"basic logical thinking" that confines itself to only a single chosen direction must surely lead to false ends~



posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 06:22 PM
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I think this is a good, thoughtful article from the Independant. Have a good read, it's not that long, no hi-tech terminology. Then really think about it and ask yourself, does this thread make sense?

www.independent.co.uk...
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posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 06:27 PM
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Originally posted by excentryk





I'm not so sure about that.. I think if they found ancient ruins (like our ancient people would build), they would make it public .. there's nothing in religion even that forbids the possibility of life or ancient alien civilizations on other planets.. I don't think it would even cause mass panic .. but the possibility of finding life on the planet is slim to none.. scientifically speaking, the only thing they will find on the surface is some evidence of organics to show that life was once possible .. and if life DOES exist on that planet .. it's going to be under the surface where liquid water could be ( and I think liquid water probably is ) ..

The only thing I think they would hide is if they found a vessel or some form of advanced technology.. and that's because it could provide a valuable advance in technology for the USA over other countries.. but ancient rock ruins wouldn't provide that.. neither would finding some ancient fossil of martian bacteria.


Yes, thank you! NASA would certainly release photos of anything resembling civilization on Mars ... for the resulting windfall of funds if nothing else ... besides, since scientists are (nearly) as human as everybody else, i'm sure that most would gladly give an eyeball to put their names on such a discovery ...


Wow either your still asleep and you slept walked onto ats and are clearly delusional or your a dis info agent
If you honestly believe that you must be the most gullible person alive..All i have to say is dark side of the moon and the moon in general..Nasa totally doctored the moon pics IF they went there..Alien moon bases structures ruins flying saucers..If they covered it up thn they will do it now..



posted on Aug, 7 2012 @ 06:32 PM
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brain washed masses who will still believe anything that their .gov or nasa tells them to believe.

Yes, I know that what I am saying about this lastest Nasa Hoax Landing of The Curiosity Rover will be loudly ridiculed and laughed at and will not be believed by the majority of the TV brain washed masses world wide. However there are many, many real thinkers world wide


Why are you conspiracy people always repeating the same mantra how the other people are the "brainwashed believers" while you are the ones claiming to be the only ones knowing the "truth"...

For me, it's exactly the opposite: YOU are the brainwashed sheeple because you believe all #### you read on any random site.

Then you always say how skeptical you guys are about anything which comes from the MSM...but you are entirely non skeptical if some psycho nutcase comes around and tells you about reptilians and fake moon landings and the "great NASA conspiracy"? Why not apply your same, high skeptical standard to YOUR sources as well? So...NASA etc. always has an evil agenda, but Hoagland, Jones, David Icke etc..etc. plus your random conspiracy site owner (book author, whatever) NEVER has any agenda and they also would never, ever lie?????





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