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Topic started on 6-8-2012 @ 10:14 PM by mr-lizard

Thousands of workers [UK] blacklisted over political views


www.independent.co.uk
More than 40 major firms referred to the secret database, which listed thousands of people's details, including their involvement in union activity, before hiring staff. Workers who were on the list allege they were deprived of their livelihoods as a result of their inclusion, with supporters claiming their human rights have been breached.
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reply posted on 6-8-2012 @ 10:22 PM by mr-lizard
www.guardian.co.uk...

The police or security services supplied information to a blacklist funded by the country's major construction firms that has kept thousands of people out of work over the past three decades.

The Information Commissioner's Office (ICO) has revealed that records that could only have come from the police or MI5 have been discovered in a vast database of files held on 3,200 victims who were deemed leftwing or troublesome.


So essentially our security services are spying and compiling information (possibly data-mined?) to firms who will pay money for this.

www.hazards.org...

The scandal has been described as “the worst case of organised human rights abuse in the UK in the past 50 years” by Professor Keith Ewing of Kings College London and cases have been submitted to the European Court of Human Rights.


www.publications.parliament.uk...

Transcript of the blacklist discussion in the house of commons.

Also it seems the NHS staff may have been affected too.

www.corporatewatch.org...

When it was revealed earlier this year that the police or security services participated in the illegal blacklisting of workers, it came as no surprise. Neither did the revelation that the blacklist was even more systematic and widespread than first reported, nor that there is a secret industrial action, mainly by south Indian NHS cleaning staff who have been campaigning against racist bullying by Carillion management at the Great Western Hospital. GMB members staged two 12 day strikes over the bullying, harassment and discrimination. This follows the initiation by unions, in February, of a second front against Carillion: threats to withdraw investments from its parent company, Semperian. The RMT has warned that it will take its pension money out of Semperian, the company that sub-contracts Carillion’s work, unless the dispute is resolved.


This is seriously spooky stuff.



reply posted on 6-8-2012 @ 11:20 PM by learnatic
Originally posted by mr-lizard

Thousands of workers [UK] blacklisted over political views


www.independent.co.uk
More than 40 major firms referred to the secret database, which listed thousands of people's details, including their involvement in union activity, before hiring staff. Workers who were on the list allege they were deprived of their livelihoods as a result of their inclusion, with supporters claiming their human rights have been breached.
(visit the link for the full news article)


I can see more this happening with political views as well. I can see the day fast approaching when large business organizations collect and obtain profile data on all prospective employees. It will be how big business silences dissent and will even intimidate the working population into supporting the organisations ideological agenda.

I can see job applicants signing all sorts of political and economic statements the employer can use to further erode individual civil rights, sovereignty and privacy and to further the organisations owners own interests.


reply posted on 7-8-2012 @ 06:49 AM by fnpmitchreturns
Blacklisting workers happens here in the USA too. I know since I was one who was blacklisted for trying organize a union at Roadway Package Systems (RPS).

I was working in York, PA at the local RPS sorting hub when I was fired and told not to come back on the property. It was not until several years later that I found out what had happened after a friend of my mothers started working in their office. There was also a man with my same last name, no relation, was fired and sued but lost.

This company would not even hire someone with my last name!

Worse yet then RPS fired the contractor, Kerry Coble. Then they fired my handicapped brother...OH, They didn't fire him or lay him off. They called and told him not to come in anymore. They did me on Friday and him on Monday. We went to the unemployment office Monday afternoon and I explained to them what happened and of course there was an investigation. Coble claimed that I was fired because I was hurt on the job and I could no longer do my work which is really illegal too! Then later that week 50+ employees from Coble's came in and it really set off red flags but it was their (RPS) right to cancel his contract.

I appealed to NLRB but since I was quitting in a few weeks to go work at the paper mill where my dad worked The NLRB gave me only 1 weeks pay and closed the case without anyone admitting they did wrong.

That is what really burns my a$$ is that most often these companies are allowed to get off without admitting guilt so the next time it is still a first time case not a pattern of employee abuse.

Later when I tried to get work at another competing firm I was quickly rejected .....

SO, I more than understand about fighting the system.......
edit on 7-8-2012 by fnpmitchreturns because: fix sp content



reply posted on 7-8-2012 @ 08:12 AM by sapien82
reply to post by ModernAcademia



I thought rights were inalienable , and therefore granted from birth , the government only takes away rights it doesnt grant them , they just remove or restrict them !

I agree with Stu , there could be some serious data protection breaches here , fines just now are a minimum of £500,000 .


reply posted on 7-8-2012 @ 09:44 AM by TrueBrit
First of all, one does not get given a right, nor can one have it taken away. A government can illegitimise itself by attempting to claim otherwise, and companies might behave as if your rights are merely pretty words on old parchment, but they are ,despite those detractors, utterly bullet proof.

The real problem, is that people are largely unaware of the wrong doing that happens around them every single day of the week. We are unaware of the abuse that sees toddlers crushed to death by thier crackhead parents, we are unaware of the systematic rape of our young by people in positions of power, or people who have a nice car and flash thier cash, we are unaware of the scale of banking fraud that costs us all a mint.... The list of things we are pretty much oblivious of in the main, is a very, very long one.

If the British people, as one, were capable of saying to themselves " I have seen all the evidence, I know all the angles, and despite the protestations of the scum we voted into parliament, I know where the root cause of this sickness lies, and where its solution is to be found." then we would not be in the hole we find ourselves in. We could rise up, en masse, and not just en masse but with a MAJORITY, and crush the system, and those who have circumvented it for thier own purposes, in one fell swoop.

Unless the people of this country are prepared to stand by thier fellow man against little tyrannies like this, and unless we the people are prepared to take some damned responsibility, take the reigns of the nation and force it onto a moral and virtuous path politically and financially, then nothing will change. Unless we do these things, we do not DESERVE to see such change.
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