reply to post by yorkshirelad
Originally posted by yorkshirelad
Originally posted by 1littlewolf
Upong what verifiable evidence? Have you conducted any scientific studies into ‘psychic’ phenomena’? Could you post the results please?
Failing that, please post the studies which show is no such thing as a psychic person, and then explain how this applies to every single person in the
Oh boy! Face palm, negative proof syndrome. With that logic ice crystals do not have six sides and the only way to prove it is to examine every single
ice crystal in the universe.
we could list "proofs" like this for an eternity by the way. I just picked a blindingly obvious one to highlight your nonsensical logic.
And yet if we found just one snowflake that was not six sided, then it would prove your theory wrong now wouldn’t it…? Please see my next set of
Not one person has yet been identified as being a psychic by passing a rigourous scientific test. Therefore, based on all the evidence
to date psychic abilities do not exist.
For starters the Double Slit Experiment
, shows that the human mind collapsing
waves into particles outside the confines of the brain. By the very definition I posted above this is psychic phenomenom.
Through the Quantum Erazer Experiment
this psychic phenomena was shown not to have
anything to do with the equipment used but could only be the observer and it was also shown to work backwards in time.
So this is your first and second non-six sided snow flake….
But obviously this is a little too far removed from your traditional view of the psychic world for you to be happy, so lets move on hey.
Predicting the future proven by Cornell experiments
New studies show
people can anticipate future events
A new study involving hundreds of Cornell undergrads has provided a dramatic demonstration of numerous ‘retroactive’ psi effects – that is,
phenomena that are inexplicable according to current scientific knowledge
Take priming – the effect whereby a subliminal (i.e. too fast for conscious detection) presentation of a word or concept speeds subsequent reaction
times for recognition of a related stimulus. Bem turned this around by having participants categorise pictures as negative or positive and then
presenting them subliminally with a negative or positive word. That is, the primes came afterwards. Students were quicker, by an average of 16.5ms, to
categorise negative pictures as negative when they were followed by a negative subliminal word (e.g. ‘threatening’), almost as if that word were
acting as a prime working backwards in time.
This is your third non-six sided snowflake….
In another experiment participants looked at successive pairs of neutral mirror images and chose their favourite – the left or right. After
each pair, an unpleasant picture was flashed subliminally on one side or the other. You guessed it, participants tended to favour the mirror image on
the side of the screen opposite to where an unpleasant picture was about to appear.
These Experiments were conducted at Cornell University and were all peer reviewed
So here are four examples that the premise of both you and the OP that psychic phenomena does not exist proven wrong. Positive proof. Neither yourself
nor the OP have offered anything except the memoirs of a con artist.
Not very scientific and certainly not ‘proof’ of anything except your own ill informed opinions
Now, seems to me that it refers the human mind affecting things or passing information beyond the confines of the brain
Double Slit Experiment
There you go, case closed. Psychic phenomenon does exist and it has been scientifically verified….
You heve merely shown your inability to grasp the concepts of quantum mechanics. Which is nothing to be ashamed about, some physicists grapple with
the concepts as well.
Please point out anywhere in my two posts on this thread where I have shown any lack of understanding of quantum physics. Or is this simply another
one of your ill informed opinions
It does make it easier to understand if you approach the subject without the arrogant assumption that it must be possible to predict
everything from an initial beginning.
This sentence does not even make sense and only goes to show your inability to read the English language as I never stated anything along those lines
in either this or my last post.
If you do that suddenly Schroedingers cat is either dead OR alive but never both at once In other words if I have a million cats I have no
idea which is dead or alive (the mistaken arrogant thought experiment thus makes them all dead and alive) wheres I know when all the boxes are
open we will have halve a million dead cats......that were dead before the box was opened (ie observed).
For starters it’s Schrödinger
, and secondly his thought experiment is flawed because he applies a macroscopic example to quantum phenomena
and he fails to account for the fact that the cat itself is an observer.
Also it was conceived well before the Double Slit Experiment and does not directly apply to its results. At any rate even if none of what I've just
stated was true (which it is) taken another way it could actually support psychic phenomena if you really look at its implications.
Too much reliance of, Einstein stating God does not play dice with the universe, instead of accepting a godless universe plays dice with
perfect predictable binomial distribution.
I don’t know quite where you make the leap from psychic phenomena to God, but its beginning to show a very flawed thought process.
This really is one of the most inane posts I’ve ever had the displeasure of responding to. I'm sorry but your junior high level science
understandings really won't cut it here. Please give us something
that proves that you and the OP’s assertions are anything more than
Otherwise I guess I’ll just take my scientifically verified examples that psychic phenomena does in fact exist and leave it at that.
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