posted on Oct, 11 2004 @ 09:57 PM
Thanks guys.. interesting mix of responses.
AWP100 - A very good point, fragments of the original cross would surely be fake, I can't see John the baptist taking Jesus' body away, and going
"Hang on - just need to take a chip of this for future collectors". The nail is interesting.. shame it can't be tested for DNA to see if its even
got blood on it. I guess the interesting thing here to think about is that if we take the texts as being true, when Jesus was stabbed with the spear,
blood and water flowed out. Apparently a thunderstorm pretty much blackened out the sky, and Jesus body began to glow with a 'holy light'. I just
wonder, if this was actually true, would this have had any impact on the people there?? I can understand the resoning then for keeping a nail from the
cross, or whatever they could get. Something like that would have certainly changed a person's perspective!
ShadowXIX: yes, the spear was found under the Nurenburg castle in the vaults by the allies. Apparently general Patton held it pretty much at the same
time that Hitler shot himself, as one of the rumoured powers revolved around the person who lost the spear would also loose their life. Patton
understood what it was - but as far as we know, did nothing about it. This was I guess, part of my question, if they had the spear, and Patton knew of
its significance, would he have just handed it back? I would have thought that having an exact copy (made by Himmler for his personal chamber in the
nazi's castle) would have been a good substitute.
the spear itself was supposed to have been some type of important or symbolic item before it was used at the crucifixion, so who knows.
Out of interest, does anyone have any good pictures of it? I have found a coule via google images, but it seems to be the same images over and over
again. Also, how long is the actual spear head?
EDIT: Not quite sure if its just me, but the old black and white photos seem to show the threads holding it together as being.. well.. shiny.. Which
certainly isn't consistent with a totally matt black paint job.. it seems to imply that they are metalic.
[edit on 11-10-2004 by QuakeDude]